Rogers was 485 with 322 in the ‘non premium’ spaces but that was before they added 35 more to deal with the lines (and converting some women’s to men’s didn’t go over well when they tried that).
So 520 and 357 unless they’ve added more. 171 was the building code for Edmonton.
Rogers was 485 with 322 in the ‘non premium’ spaces but that was before they added 35 more to deal with the lines (and converting some women’s to men’s didn’t go over well when they tried that).
So 520 and 357 unless they’ve added more. 171 was the building code for Edmonton.
If your numbers are correct and they screw the washroom situation up again then the much vaunted HOK is a joke as a design team. I’m convinced they don’t understand the market. My theory is down in the states they get away with this washroom count because people get up during the periods and it spreads the rush out. In Canada, it just doesn’t happen, we sit and watch the game to basically the final whistle and then it overwhelms the facilities they design. Hope I’m wrong and they didn’t screw this up twice.
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Rogers was 485 with 322 in the ‘non premium’ spaces but that was before they added 35 more to deal with the lines (and converting some women’s to men’s didn’t go over well when they tried that).
So 520 and 357 unless they’ve added more. 171 was the building code for Edmonton.
They should have made a trough around the outside of the building.
The flex bathrooms, unisex bathrooms, and extra stalls are all stupid.
Urinals are the quickest way in-and-out for mass beer consumption. In 30 years of going to sports venues, I've only ever went #2 once and I had a stomach thing going on.
Chop the number of toilets in half, double the number of urinals.
You'll make more money doing that - people will buy more beer instead of standing in the bathroom line.
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If they did a trough at the floor you could probably run four rows deep. Tallest guy goes in front and then the shorter guy behind and the kids behind that all aiming between the legs of the person in front. Then the fourth row is for the teenagers with good pressure, staggered to go through the gap between the stacks.
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The flex bathrooms, unisex bathrooms, and extra stalls are all stupid.
It's not. Show up to an event with a different demographic, and you'll see why this is needed. Imagine a Taylor Swift concert with plenty of urinals everywhere.
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It's not. Show up to an event with a different demographic, and you'll see why this is needed. Imagine a Taylor Swift concert with plenty of urinals everywhere.
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It's not. Show up to an event with a different demographic, and you'll see why this is needed. Imagine a Taylor Swift concert with plenty of urinals everywhere.
So when drunkards piss all over the toilets, women will just come in and use them after?
Designing the rink without the hockey fan first and foremost is a mistake. Taylor Swift (for example) will never play in this arena. It's beneath her.
I've said it before and I'll keep saying it...I know it sounds stupid but bathrooms are eminently important.
I know it seems stupid, but you've got 20,000 people as a captive audience for 3 hours...its all about through-put.
Back when I used to attend live games, I would actually avoid drinking beer primarily because I didn't want to have to use the bathrooms. It was just too inconvenient, and I am sure there are many people like that especially ladies.
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And therefore there will never be any event ever that has more women attending than men, and thus the design shouldn't consider those cases.
That's not what I said. At all.
Build adequate women's facilities taking into account the different events that will take place there. Of course.
Build a handful of unisex private bathrooms for people who need them.
But trying to build flex-bathrooms or unisex with toilets instead of banks and banks of urinals is stupid. The urinal takes up much less space (therefore you can fit more urinals than toilets in the same space), expedites the bathroom process for men and allows the men to jump back into the beer line quicker, making money for the arena/owner.
I'm not even a big beer drinker at events (I always drive), but this to me just seems like common sense. It expedites the process. The best arenas and stadiums I've been to have mass-urinal access.
I would guess that they might clean the bathrooms between events.
The unisex toilets during events won't be cleaned. Rendering them useless to most women I'll bet, and you're back at square one. Shoulda jammed a bunch of urinals in that space.
The unisex toilets during events won't be cleaned. Rendering them useless to most women I'll bet, and you're back at square one. Shoulda jammed a bunch of urinals in that space.
"We don't have any bathroom cleaning supplies....this is just a storeroom full of flamethrowers..."
Yes.
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