2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Ped

Would think the players would have to give up something very significant to get that concession, if the owners would even consider it.

Term limits. 4 years contracts.

[Hackey]

It's highly unlikely Rasmus is returning a blue chip prospect. Teams hardly ever make those trades anymore. He only has a year left, closing in on 30, a very good player but not elite. The Hanifin return was very weak so I'm skeptical anyone's pays that much more for Rasmus even with the extra year.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Unless it's an overpay Andersson shouldn't be traded unless Conroy knows he's not interested in staying.

Reading between the lines of what's been said on here, and what's been said in the media - Raz wants to play on a contender, now.

Are we a contender?

Originally Posted by Hackey

It's highly unlikely Rasmus is returning a blue chip prospect. Teams hardly ever make those trades anymore. He only has a year left, closing in on 30, a very good player but not elite. The Hanifin return was very weak so I'm skeptical anyone's pays that much more for Rasmus even with the extra year.

We know the market for top-end defencemen. The ceiling is what the Bruins paid for H. Lindholm (ceiling being somewhere in the area of 1st + 2nd + 2nd).

In my eyes, trading Rasmus Andersson this season concludes the sell-off portion of Conroy's initial build. You could argue maybe Coleman/Kadri, but I don't think so - they both have a decent amount of term left, and I think are unlikely to be moved. Andersson is the last real 'sell' piece the team has, and yeah - it should return somewhere in and around the value of a 1st + 2nd + 2nd, which would bolster the Flames 'futures' asset pool to near the top, if not the top in the league for that window of 2024-2026 drafts.

[Kipper_3434]

This team has yet to bottom out, Anderson out this season and Backlund next, should guaranty 1 bottom 5 finish, at least.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

This team has yet to bottom out, Anderson out this season and Backlund next, should guaranty 1 bottom 5 finish, at least.

Next year or the following year are great years to bottom out and hope you win the McKenna or Dupont lottery.

Misa, Martone and Hagens are all solid but McKenna and Dupont seem to be another level

[Monahammer]

Landing Mike Misa would be pretty awesome though. He looks like an absolute star putting up the numbers he is in the OHL, and we have his brother and memorial cup winning teammate already in place...

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

Imagine being the small market team that not only can’t lure free agents, but are on waiver exempt lists?



Talk about a competitive imbalance. Zero chance owners go for something like that.

Yup, and unfortunately for us, the Flames will be one of the teams on every players list, along with the other Canadian teams except for Toronto in some cases.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I still think that there is a very good shot at finishing in the bottom 5 this year - plenty of time to end up there. I think finishing in the bottom 3 is becoming more unlikely.


I also agree that bottoming out in the next two years is probably preferable to this one. I would also love adding another '26 unprotected pick like the Flames received from Vegas. You never know when those unprotected picks end up hitting, though unlikely.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Term limits. 4 years contracts.

I doubt that teams would want that either.

Small market teams, like Calgary, would have zero ability to sign players off ELC to 8 year contracts. Instead, they walk them right to UFA.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Reading between the lines of what's been said on here, and what's been said in the media - Raz wants to play on a contender, now.

Are we a contender?



We know the market for top-end defencemen. The ceiling is what the Bruins paid for H. Lindholm (ceiling being somewhere in the area of 1st + 2nd + 2nd).

In my eyes, trading Rasmus Andersson this season concludes the sell-off portion of Conroy's initial build. You could argue maybe Coleman/Kadri, but I don't think so - they both have a decent amount of term left, and I think are unlikely to be moved. Andersson is the last real 'sell' piece the team has, and yeah - it should return somewhere in and around the value of a 1st + 2nd + 2nd, which would bolster the Flames 'futures' asset pool to near the top, if not the top in the league for that window of 2024-2026 drafts.

I agree about 1st + 2nd + 2nd. That’s the standard and basically what the Flames traded for Hamonic and Hamilton. I feel Bourque + Lundqvist + 2nd would be pretty close to that value.

Another young centre, who has been suggested by a person in the know on this forum, is Marco Rossi. Rossi would be a fantastic get. What do ppl think it would take to acquire him?

[Cheese]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I still think that there is a very good shot at finishing in the bottom 5 this year - plenty of time to end up there. I think finishing in the bottom 3 is becoming more unlikely.


I also agree that bottoming out in the next two years is probably preferable to this one. I would also love adding another '26 unprotected pick like the Flames received from Vegas. You never know when those unprotected picks end up hitting, though unlikely.

I dont see 12-13 teams bypassing the Flames to get to the bottom 5. I Hope we get into 8 or 9, but that could be very tough as well. Unless our goalies start crapping the bed they will hold us in most games.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Cheese

I dont see 12-13 teams bypassing the Flames to get to the bottom 5. I Hope we get into 8 or 9, but that could be very tough as well. Unless our goalies start crapping the bed they will hold us in most games.

Calgary is 5 points above 10th place, so the bottom 10 is still very much achievable.

7 point above 5th place.

It's not a question of teams bypassing Calgary, Calgary needs to free fall.

An Andersson trade and a slip of the goalies to average standard might well put them there, as their record is above their goal differential anyway.

But much like their success, their failure is firmly in the hands of Wolf.

[SuperMatt18]

In terms of record you'd need to finish the season with for each position you'd be looking at:

Bottom 10: .480, 79 points
Bottom 5: .440, 72 points

Flames have 31 points with 55 games (110 possible points) remaining.

To finish bottom 10 with a .480 they'd have to go .436 the rest of the season.

To finish bottom 5 with a .440 they'd have to finish with a .373 record the rest of the season.

I don't know...bottom 10 might be possible but to get to bottom 5 this team has to be San Jose / Chicago / Anaheim from last season bad and I just don't see that happening.

For context last year they traded 3 top 5 dmen, our first line center, and other pieces and they were still a .381 from trade deadline on and .509 in the last 55 games.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Calgary is 5 points above 10th place, so the bottom 10 is still very much achievable.

7 point above 5th place.

It's not a question of teams bypassing Calgary, Calgary needs to free fall.

An Andersson trade and a slip of the goalies to average standard might well put them there, as their record is above their goal differential anyway.

But much like their success, their failure is firmly in the hands of Wolf.

Except they cant "lose" points.

Calgary isnt a good team....but many others are much worse.

Thats the predicament.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Except they cant "lose" points.

Calgary isnt a good team....but many others are much worse.

I've been watching this team lose points for decades!

[transplant99]

Can't lose something you never had to begin with!

[Poe969]

This seems oddly familiar. The team isn't going to be good enough to contend but aren't bad enough to get a good pick.

Mediocre just sounds so comfortable, like home. New year, same situation.

[calgARI]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Except they cant "lose" points.

Calgary isnt a good team....but many others are much worse.

Thats the predicament.

Reminds me of the movie Major League.

[Vinny01]

6 of the Flames top 7 scorers this season make up their veteran 6 that is setting the example for the rebuild but along with Wolf are the only reason this team isn’t at the bottom of the league.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Poe969

This seems oddly familiar. The team isn't going to be good enough to contend but aren't bad enough to get a good pick.

Mediocre just sounds so comfortable, like home. New year, same situation.

Kind of but not really.

Generally since the 2006 lockout the Flames have been a cap team that had a pick defect and we're still in the same position of battling for a playoff spot in the 7-10 range.

The big difference this time is they are second lowest salary cap in the league, have $17M in cap space, have moved out assets for picks and actually have a surplus of picks for the first time in a while.

It might be a similar position in the standings but in no way is the same situation as they've been in historically.