[Signing] Shesterkin signs 8 year extension (11.5mil AAV)

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dammage79

And poof. There goes Trouba cap space

Kind of.

This is a $5.8M raise for Shesterkin. Laf gets a $5.1M raise.

So $10.9M between those two players.

Cap is supposed to go up by $5M next year.
Trouba opens up $8M.
Smith expires at $3.75M
Lindgren $4.5M

That all adds up to $21.25M. They will have to replace Smith and Lindgren but I think it's possible.

So they can probably add another piece that has some term left now if that was their goal now that they have clarity on the Shesterkin and Trouba situations.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Just too much for a goalie.

Disagree. He's their most important player and wins games on his own.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Biiiiiiig mistake. No goalie stays consistent enough get the bag for that much and that long.

Curious how you define consistent.

He has been great in each of his 6 seasons with the Rangers, and has been in the conversation for best goalie in the league, in each of the last 5

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Disagree. He's their most important player and wins games on his own.

I don't think I can make an argument that he is not worth being paid this money. He is one of if not the best goalie in the NHL. He is their most important player, you are correct. He will win games almost on his own.


But, he takes up so much of the cap how are you going to make a roster deep enough to win 16 playoff games? There are more examples of weak goalies winning cups behind deep teams than thin teams riding hot goal tending to a cup.

I think if you're the Rangers you had to pay him. You don't have a choice. But it's just too much money for a goalie.

[Enoch Root]

I'd sure as hell rather be paying Shesterkin $11.5M than Pettersson

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by devo22

has to be the biggest goalie contract ever, right? Good luck with that going forward.

I think Price was higher as % of the cap

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Kind of.

This is a $5.8M raise for Shesterkin. Laf gets a $5.1M raise.

So $10.9M between those two players.

Cap is supposed to go up by $5M next year.
Trouba opens up $8M.
Smith expires at $3.75M
Lindgren $4.5M

That all adds up to $21.25M. They will have to replace Smith and Lindgren but I think it's possible.

So they can probably add another piece that has some term left now if that was their goal now that they have clarity on the Shesterkin and Trouba situations.

There are rumours/pretty firm speculation that the salary cap is actually going to be somewhere between $95-$100M, exceeding the originally expected $92.4M (which is the previously agreed upon 5% lift).

I believe the 50/50 split, would have the cap at $100M - so I imagine the league accelerating beyond the previously negotiated 5% lift is a good faith move in early CBA negotiations

$100M cap, with the best goalie in the world taking up 11.5%? Seems quite reasonable.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

That's the difference between a team trying to contend and a team doing a rebuild. The Rangers want to win and are up against the cap. The Flames are under no pressure to win and are barely above the floor.

It's not just that. Shesterkin is arguably the best goalie in the world. Top 3 at worst. But 12MM a year seems too much.

Take any run of the mill 3rd liner making 5-6MM, and most people agree that is simply the price of doing business.

Many would argue that goalie is the most important position in hockey, so why are we so hesitant to pay them the most?

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

It's not just that. Shesterkin is arguably the best goalie in the world. Top 3 at worst. But 12MM a year seems too much.

Take any run of the mill 3rd liner making 5-6MM, and most people agree that is simply the price of doing business.

Many would argue that goalie is the most important position in hockey, so why are we so hesitant to pay them the most?

Because generally their performance is the most volitaile.

But honestly even more reason to pay the ones that are consistently elite even more.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Bob won his Stanley Cup in Year 5 of a 7 year contract that when signed was worth 12.27% of the salary cap - which is likely right around where the Shesterkin deal lands.

An awful goalie rebounding with an elite playoff performance at age 35 is not the norm.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

It's not just that. Shesterkin is arguably the best goalie in the world. Top 3 at worst. But 12MM a year seems too much.

Take any run of the mill 3rd liner making 5-6MM, and most people agree that is simply the price of doing business.

Many would argue that goalie is the most important position in hockey, so why are we so hesitant to pay them the most?

An overpaid 3rd liner doesn't sink the team the same way a $12 million/year goalie can. If that $12/year goalie becomes below average, his entire cap hit becomes dead weight and he has a negative affect on the team, to the point the team cannot win while he is playing.

A 3rd liner making $3 million/year more than they should is just that. Sucks, but doesn't destroy the ability of the team to win games.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Florida JUST won with a $10 mil goalie… signed yeeaaarrrsss ago. This isn’t a big deal. Great signing.

[dammage79]

Carey Price was a 10m goalie. This is 1.5m more with a bigger cap ceiling. I don't believe this is prohibitive

[GioforPM]

Waiting for Butterfly to explain why this is bad.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Curious how you define consistent.

He has been great in each of his 6 seasons with the Rangers, and has been in the conversation for best goalie in the league, in each of the last 5

Bob was also great before he signed his big deal and then turned into a smurf, to use Sandman's terminology


The whole point was to say that once that big ticket starts coming it was a whole different situation for Bob. Maybe it's different for Shesterkin but now he needs to be their best player every night and the heat is on if he isn't.

[FlamesAddiction]

I wonder if it's awkward at all among players on the team when your contract extension is why another player had to be jettisoned. In this case, their team captain.

[Ped]

Yeah Bob's deal didn't handcuff the Panthers, but that's more of a timing thing, anyway. They couldn't keep guys like Montour, and it might cost them guys like Ekblad. Sure, they got their Cup, but that's only 1 team per year.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Ped

Yeah Bob's deal didn't handcuff the Panthers, but that's more of a timing thing, anyway. They couldn't keep guys like Montour, and it might cost them guys like Ekblad. Sure, they got their Cup, but that's only 1 team per year.

…but they got a Cup.

They literally did the thing that all people are trying to do, and did it with a very expensive goalie. It didn’t prevent them from doing the only thing that actually matters, it actually enabled them to do it as Bob was a big factor.

Nothing else matters. You can NEVER be dismissive of winning the Cup.

Tampa also won a Cup with a goalie taking up 11.66% of the Cap in 2021.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Just wait till you see how much money Mavi gobbles up for the back half of his career.

Hell take 18% of the max and oilers fans will jump up and down with glee claiming he gave them a deal to stay in wonderful Edmonton.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Florida JUST won with a $10 mil goalie… signed yeeaaarrrsss ago. This isn’t a big deal. Great signing.

It was VERY close to going off the rails...he was a backup and considered the worst contract in the league at one point. They wanted to dump him badly...then game 5 against Boston happened.

It seems like a decent deal but you never know, goalies are weird.