MF YYC Politics - there, I mega did it

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

That is a big part of the issue. Densification is necessary, but most of the developments put forward are huge, 10+ story projects. I don’t know what the barriers are to moderate densification - 2 and 3 story apartment complexes with 60-100 units of the kind that are common in Europe. But if we could crack that problem, it would be a lot easier to get buy-in for new developments.

I agree. Communities made of towers suck. The 2-6 story street walls are sooo much better to exist in.

The problem, is there is always such a fight to build anything, that they need to cram a billion units on any parcel where they can actually fight through all the opposition to get a project started.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Property tax in the City should be inversely proportional to the density of the neighbourhood.

Charge by frontage.

My house has 50' of sidewalk, pipes and sewer needed for it to exist, and it's stupid that I pay the same amount as someone in a similar sized/valued condo.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

I agree. Communities made of towers suck. The 2-6 story street walls are sooo much better to exist in.

The problem, is there is always such a fight to build anything, that they need to cram a billion units on any parcel where they can actually fight through all the opposition to get a project started.

Pffft.....shows what you know! You just havent been to the right ones!



Its got its own Pharmacy, a Constabulary and a wide variety of local and ethnic food options!

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by Slava

The issue here was that you have literally one way in and out of this proposed project and no way to improve that.

I wonder why that wasn't mentioned once in this article?

https://livewirecalgary.com/2024/12/...elopment-halt/

“This land never went to public tender. They were going to put 8,000 people on the doorstep, on the shorelines of our drinking water without doing a biophysical impact analysis,” she said.

“It’s simply unacceptable. You can’t do this to our parklands. You can’t do this to our drinking water.”

“Ideal to me, is something you can’t see from the (Glenmore) reservoir parklands. To continue with that legacy, if you’re on the parklands today, you don’t see strip mall, that’s beautiful,” she said.

It's almost like they'll keep inventing reasons why they won't think it'll work out...

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

Charge by frontage.

My house has 50' of sidewalk, pipes and sewer needed for it to exist, and it's stupid that I pay the same amount as someone in a similar sized/valued condo.

Shuuush dude, my 65 feet is gonna be expensive! Living on the curve has some drawbacks...

[fotze2]

Slava was right on this one.

There cannot be 100% approval on every project, otherwise why have approvals.

Anyone who ever says “trust the science” needs to step back, especially about this. I took traffic engineering in school and now see my former classmates at the city. Absolute loser factory. If you find yourself working at the city you weren’t good enough to work for the engineering firms. It’s common knowledge. City studies say.. that’s not science, please stop.

This was an absolute fackered plan. I have no skin in the game.

I am in the oilpatch and there are some greasy folks but nothing holds a candle to the development companies. They don’t give a flying fata about “building great cities” just as much as oil companies care about “fueling the economy”.

And it’s incestuous. The developers go back and forth between working for the city and the developer.

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Shuuush dude, my 65 feet is gonna be expensive! Living on the curve has some drawbacks...

I have a corner lot. 50 meters of sidewalk (164 ft for you old folks). I'm furiously creating the webpage for "Calgary Common Sense Frontage" to fight this amazingly horrible idea!

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by fotze2

Anyone who ever says “trust the science” needs to step back, especially about this. I took traffic engineering in school and now see my former classmates at the city. Absolute loser factory. If you find yourself working at the city you weren’t good enough to work for the engineering firms. It’s common knowledge. City studies say.. that’s not science, please stop.

If you took traffic engineering in school, does that mean you're part of the loser factory if you went to O&G? I can't imagine a resource road needs someone checking their peak hour V/C ratio.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

If you took traffic engineering in school, does that mean you're part of the loser factory if you went to O&G? I can't imagine a resource road needs someone checking their peak hour V/C ratio.

It totally means that. That was the point. You’d do well there.

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

Charge by frontage.

My house has 50' of sidewalk, pipes and sewer needed for it to exist, and it's stupid that I pay the same amount as someone in a similar sized/valued condo.

You probably do pay more as a wider frontage property is generally more desirable. Meanwhile the condo resident is paying for the extra policing, transit and other nearby city amenities.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

I wonder why that wasn't mentioned once in this article?

https://livewirecalgary.com/2024/12/...elopment-halt/





It's almost like they'll keep inventing reasons why they won't think it'll work out...

And? Is your point that because I didn't want the development, my reasons have to be the same as those of other people who didn't want the development?

Here's the thing: I'm not against density. I'm not against change or good projects. It doesn't mean that every new development that adds doors is a good idea, though. There is one road in/out of there that can go east/west. You can't add more access to that site unless you plan to knock down trees and encroach on parkland (as opposed to the grass some people tried to say is parkland in this debate). So, it should be a non-starter. You can't have 3000 more people and one road to get in/out of the site. It's completely ridiculous.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Slava

And? Is your point that because I didn't want the development, my reasons have to be the same as those of other people who didn't want the development?

Here's the thing: I'm not against density. I'm not against change or good projects. It doesn't mean that every new development that adds doors is a good idea, though. There is one road in/out of there that can go east/west. You can't add more access to that site unless you plan to knock down trees and encroach on parkland (as opposed to the grass some people tried to say is parkland in this debate). So, it should be a non-starter. You can't have 3000 more people and one road to get in/out of the site. It's completely ridiculous.

Would you have cared if they planned this for Tuscany?

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Would you have cared if they planned this for Tuscany?

Why is that relevant? He cares because it impacts him directly.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Why is that relevant? He cares because it impacts him directly.

If I recall the previous conversation correctly, he doesn’t live there.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Wormius

If I recall the previous conversation correctly, he doesn’t live there.

Doesn’t he live in bayview? Or is that another CP person?

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by accord1999

You probably do pay more as a wider frontage property is generally more desirable. Meanwhile the condo resident is paying for the extra policing, transit and other nearby city amenities.

But I'm also paying for my household's share of transit, policing and city amenities in the same neighbourhood as the condo.

Sure they have to put some bigger services in for the condo, but the fact of the matter is they are less of a burden on the tax base than I am, yet they pay the same.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Wormius

If I recall the previous conversation correctly, he doesn’t live there.

I live right by Glenmore Landing.

[chemgear]

Aren't they looking to jam in some hilarious 20 story complex in Marda Loop as well?

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Locke

Pffft.....shows what you know! You just havent been to the right ones!



Its got its own Pharmacy, a Constabulary and a wide variety of local and ethnic food options!

[Amethyst]

Originally Posted by Slava

Here's the thing: I'm not against density. I'm not against change or good projects.

Here's the thing. Every time there's a development proposal, the people in the area object. And they all say they're not against density. It just can't happen in their area because of "very good reasons..."

Neighbourhoods aren't as special as the complainers think they are.