4 nations rosters

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Then don't watch....simple.

Yeah, I won't watch, relax.

Don't act like this is some best-on-best tournament when they have 4 teams.....simple.

How about that #1C in your signature for Canada hey? LMAO

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Yeah, I won't watch, relax.

Don't act like this is some best-on-best tournament when they have 4 teams.....simple.

How about that #1C in your signature for Canada hey? LMAO

You are the genius that claimed he isnt a
#1 C and Morrisey isnt a #1 D

LMAO!! indeed.

Oh...and it is best on best regardless of what you claim. Its just limited to 4 countries.

Again the only teams not participating that will be in the Olys that matter are the Czechs and the Swiss.....niether of which is likely to win anything.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Andersson talked about it a bunch yesterday - he’s looking to make a statement for the Olympic team.

This is the first best-on-best hockey that’s been played in eight years - it’s a big deal no matter what you think of the format.

Everyone who made this roster can see who was left off.

Nobody is going to risk their spot at the Olympics because this tournament “doesn’t mean anything”.

Maybe it doesn’t to you - it does to them.

Yeah, I agree. Players have consistently said that playing for their country hits differently, so it certainly does mean something to them. This has been confirmed time and time again and it actually even seems that for non-North American players, it's perhaps an even bigger deal.

[GreenLantern2814]

I would make this a regular thing at the 2-year mark in between Olympics, with some tweaks.

1. The four teams are the three Olympic medalists, and the previous 4-Nations Cup champion. In the event the 4-Nations cup champion wins an Olympic medal as well, the fourth-place Olympic finisher will be entered as the 4th team.

2. Winning the 4-Nations Cup means that country is the host of the next tournament in four years. It can’t just be played in Toronto or Montreal all the time.

It’s a cool idea, and if they commit to it, it could become something great.

It could become a measuring stick for the top contenders in international hockey.

As hosting is not something that is bid on, it is a prize, the players involved would naturally want to have the opportunity to play this tournament in front of their home fans.

And since it’s not a stadium scam, it could actually be an old school national honour to host the event. The best hockey players in the world descend on Stockholm or Moscow or Prague for two weeks, play four games of no holds barred #### you international hockey, and winner gets to host the next party.

Put me on the council, coach, I’m ready.

Poor showings could drastically altar a country’s plans going into the next Olympics.

It absolutely could be something.

If they let it.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

I would make this a regular thing at the 2-year mark in between Olympics, with some tweaks.

1. The four teams are the three Olympic medalists, and the previous 4-Nations Cup champion. In the event the 4-Nations cup champion wins an Olympic medal as well, the fourth-place Olympic finisher will be entered as the 4th team.

2. Winning the 4-Nations Cup means that country is the host of the next tournament in four years. It can’t just be played in Toronto or Montreal all the time.

It’s a cool idea, and if they commit to it, it could become something great.

It could become a measuring stick for the top contenders in international hockey.

As hosting is not something that is bid on, it is a prize, the players involved would naturally want to have the opportunity to play this tournament in front of their home fans.

And since it’s not a stadium scam, it could actually be an old school national honour to host the event. The best hockey players in the world descend on Stockholm or Moscow or Prague for two weeks, play four games of no holds barred #### you international hockey, and winner gets to host the next party.

Put me on the council, coach, I’m ready.

Poor showings could drastically alter approaches at the Olympics. Chaos. Drama. Are we not entertained?

I love the brutal natu

Its actually in Montreal and Boston.

I think the plan is to have this every other year moving forward and if Russia ever gets reinstated as an IIHF member, then it will expand to 6.

But the games almost have to be played in NA unless the NHL shuts down for longer than 9 days as they are for this. The logistics and travel would extend it to at least 2 weeks....something both the league and the PA would oppose I would think.

[redmile04]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Yeah, I won't watch, relax.

Don't act like this is some best-on-best tournament when they have 4 teams.....simple.

How about that #1C in your signature for Canada hey? LMAO

4 teams.. some serious CFL vibes

And how do you celebrate when you know you beat THREE other teams? lol

[indes]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

So, this is a glorified version of friendlies.

Zero prestige, just to see who part of the roster can be going forward to qualify for real tournaments with more than 4 teams.

I am sure they will care a bit, but outside of McDavid I can't see guys going balls to the wall for this showcase.

Personally, I would rather have the all-star game. At least you don't get Valamaki or Parayko.

You seriously believe these ultra-competitive professional athletes aren't going to care about winning this? At the end of the day, they're going to be wearing their country's logo and there will be a huge amount of personal & national pride on the line. The media has been pushing the dethroning of Canada on the international stage by the Americans for a while now, I expect all the players are pretty invested in coming out on top of this one.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by transplant99

You are the genius that claimed he isnt a
#1 C and Morrisey isnt a #1 D

LMAO!! indeed.

Oh...and it is best on best regardless of what you claim. Its just limited to 4 countries.

Again the only teams not participating that will be in the Olys that matter are the Czechs and the Swiss.....niether of which is likely to win anything.

It can't be best on best without guys like Kucherov, Kaprizov, Panarin, Ovechkin, Bobrovsky, Vasilevksi, Shesterkin, Marchenko...

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It can't be best on best without guys like Kucherov, Kaprizov, Panarin, Ovechkin, Bobrovsky, Vasilevksi, Shesterkin, Marchenko...

Best on best between the competing countries....not debateable.

Russia isnt going to the Olympics so i guess it wont matter either?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Colton Paryako vs Juuso Valamaki .... best on best.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Colton Paryako vs Juuso Valamaki .... best on best.

Nathan McKinnon vs Auston Matthews.....best on best.

Cale Makar vs Victor Hedman

etc etc etc

As for Valimaki, yeah he is one of the top Finnish dmen, thats why he was selected....not sure why you keep mentioning him.

You are able to comprehend that...yes?

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It can't be best on best without guys like Kucherov, Kaprizov, Panarin, Ovechkin, Bobrovsky, Vasilevksi, Shesterkin, Marchenko...

What would a Team Russia look like anyway? 2-3 forwards out of position to fill in at C, but that's a strong team on forward. D is a bit sketchy...

Ovechkin - Malkin - Kucherov
Panarin - Svechnikov - Marchenko
Kaprizov - Barbashev - Nichushkin
Michkov - Buchnevich - Tarasenko

Sergachev -Zub
Provorov - Lyubushkin
Orlov - Zadorov

Shesterkin
Vasilevsky
Bobrovsky

[GirlySports]

it will always be in north america, money talks

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Nathan McKinnon vs Auston Matthews.....best on best.

Cale Makar vs Victor Hedman

etc etc etc

As for Valimaki, yeah he is one of the top Finnish dmen, thats why he was selected....not sure why you keep mentioning him.

You are able to comprehend that...yes?

Actually really happy for Valimaki. Had a rough time in Calgary which he also takes some blame for as he couldn't step his game up another level (but he was coming back from injury). I always liked him as a prospect, so I'm not going to dump on him just because he got traded.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Best on best between the competing countries....not debateable.

Russia isnt going to the Olympics so i guess it wont matter either?

So "best on best" doesn't mean players. It means countries, except those guilty of international criminality.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Yeah, I won't watch, relax.

Don't act like this is some best-on-best tournament when they have 4 teams.....simple.

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Colton Paryako vs Juuso Valamaki .... best on best.

Complains that it’s not best-on-best because there’s only 4 teams.

Also complains about players the calibre of Paryako and Valamaki being in the tournament.

You realize that the 8 teams that would be added to make up an Olympics tournament would be mostly made up of players worse than Paryako and Valamaki, right?

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by activeStick

What would a Team Russia look like anyway? 2-3 forwards out of position to fill in at C, but that's a strong team on forward. D is a bit sketchy...

Ovechkin - Malkin - Kucherov
Panarin - Svechnikov - Marchenko
Kaprizov - Barbashev - Nichushkin
Michkov - Buchnevich - Tarasenko

Sergachev -Zub
Provorov - Lyubushkin
Orlov - Zadorov

Shesterkin
Vasilevsky
Bobrovsky

It does seem like Russia struggles to develop elite centres in a similar way that Canada struggles to develop elite goaltenders. Russia does develop elite wingers though.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Actually really happy for Valimaki. Had a rough time in Calgary which he also takes some blame for as he couldn't step his game up another level (but he was coming back from injury). I always liked him as a prospect, so I'm not going to dump on him just because he got traded.

I think its more that he has 1 point and is barely an NHL defencemen not that he got traded. Finns didnt have a lot of choices though.

[indes]

Originally Posted by activeStick

What would a Team Russia look like anyway? 2-3 forwards out of position to fill in at C, but that's a strong team on forward. D is a bit sketchy...

Ovechkin - Malkin - Kucherov
Panarin - Svechnikov - Marchenko
Kaprizov - Barbashev - Nichushkin
Michkov - Buchnevich - Tarasenko

Sergachev -Zub
Provorov - Lyubushkin
Orlov - Zadorov

Shesterkin
Vasilevsky
Bobrovsky

Looks like a pretty stereotypical Russian roster to me, I see a bunch of highlight reel goals and a bunch of losses.

[dino7c]

More than the 4 teams its the format that diminishes the tournament for me. Just a round robin and a final...tie breaker for spot 2 in then final could be ridiculous. Two of these teams are only playing 3 games lol.

Remember the WC when the U23 team had a dramatic win and were eliminated