2024-25 MLB Offseason

[Roof-Daddy]

Golden at bat....

My god.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I kinda wish they'd just name it the "How can we get Ohtani into more high leverage situations" rule, but I guess that's too wordy.

[GirlySports]

It does add a strategy element, how early to use it?
And he might just intentionally walked.

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Golden at bat....

My god.

It's a departure from the norms and people who been watching for long time and value the sanctity of the game won't like it. Top players going to get even more money !

I am excited about strike zone challenge if it gets done this year. Laz diaz retired angel and other bad umps be ware finally. But I love a big argument where someone gets tossed. Bag gets thrown lines drawn bats slammed


Pitch clock it worked
Runner on 2nd it's kind of fun.

Modernizing a game for old ppl so young pll watch is not easy. Manfred done ok imo

[bluejays]

The golden at bat thing is interesting, yet not great from a traditional standpoint. Part of building a good lineup is to have good 1 through 9 hitters so any situation you're a threat to the other team. To suddenly introduce a one off, I'm not sure I agree with. Maybe in extra innings, but games don't last long in extra innings anyway. It's a team sport - I'm not sure why they have to make the best factor in more. To me it's just odd as it messes with the tradition of the sport in many ways.


On another note Aroldis Chapman has sign with Boston for $10M. Kinda indicates Boston may be going for something. As well it may also not bode well for Romano if teams weren't willing to take on $7M but would take on Chapman for $10M.

[browna]

Golden at bat should take it a step farther. If a team uses a player for a golden at bat, he's done for the rest of the game, in field and batting.

But it's stupid. I don't like the ghost runner at 2nd either. I understand not wanting to have games to all night and ruin pitchers (who throw less and less innings, decade by decade), but how about ghost runners start in the 12th or 13th inning.

All for modernizing game where required, pitch clock has worked out. But turning it into a video game reward is silly.

[troutman]

Golden Barf.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by browna

Golden at bat should take it a step farther. If a team uses a player for a golden at bat, he's done for the rest of the game, in field and batting.

But it's stupid. I don't like the ghost runner at 2nd either. I understand not wanting to have games to all night and ruin pitchers (who throw less and less innings, decade by decade), but how about ghost runners start in the 12th or 13th inning.

All for modernizing game where required, pitch clock has worked out. But turning it into a video game reward is silly.

I like the runner at 2nd. It makes extra innings more small ball and changes the strategy, which I find entertaining. And the pitch clock/face 3 batters rules are unambiguous benefits, imo.

Golden batter seems a bit too far to me. My biggest concern would be if you give the top tier batters an extra at-bat per game that makes all the single-season records incomparable. 60 HR will become 72 HR with an extra 20% at bats. I agree at minimum you'd need to make that the "Golden boys" final play of the game, but probably that still means Ohtani/Judge take the last at-bat of every regular season game.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

I like the runner at 2nd. It makes extra innings more small ball and changes the strategy, which I find entertaining. And the pitch clock/face 3 batters rules are unambiguous benefits, imo.

Golden batter seems a bit too far to me. My biggest concern would be if you give the top tier batters an extra at-bat per game that makes all the single-season records incomparable. 60 HR will become 72 HR with an extra 20% at bats. I agree at minimum you'd need to make that the "Golden boys" final play of the game, but probably that still means Ohtani/Judge take the last at-bat of every regular season game.

That's the fascinating part. Like the closer is always saved for the ninth but sometimes the big hitters come up earlier. Some managers are resisting this. Do you only use your golden bat when you're behind or late in the game? What if you're up 3-1 in the 5th with the bases loaded, wouldn't you want to put the game out of hand?

And if the golden bat (Ohtani) gets on base and he's due up again, does a pinch runner automatically go in and Ohtani hits again?

[Senator Clay Davis]

If they're gonna do this, then we need a platinum pitcher rule. One pitcher gets to use a 1900s dead ball era ball. So bring up Ohtani? Fine, good luck getting the ball more than 50 feet into the outfield.

But maybe then we counter with an aluminum bat rule. Guys can use a softball bat to combat that ####.

But then we need a diamond field rule. When played, the field turns into Ebbets field dimensions, so like 480 dead center, 420 LF line, 300 RF line.

But maybe then we need the PEDs Player rule. One team gets to have a guy completely roided out of his mind. Can be pitcher or hitter, doesn't matter. Wouldn't that be fun? Have a roided pitcher and a roided hitter going toe to toe? A 110MPH sinker getting turned around into a 650 foot homer? Good stuff.

In short, lets clown the game up as much as possible. Give me lolz or give me death.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

If they're gonna do this, then we need a platinum pitcher rule. One pitcher gets to use a 1900s dead ball era ball. So bring up Ohtani? Fine, good luck getting the ball more than 50 feet into the outfield.

But maybe then we counter with an aluminum bat rule. Guys can use a softball bat to combat that ####.

But then we need a diamond field rule. When played, the field turns into Ebbets field dimensions, so like 480 dead center, 420 LF line, 300 RF line.

But maybe then we need the PEDs Player rule. One team gets to have a guy completely roided out of his mind. Can be pitcher or hitter, doesn't matter. Wouldn't that be fun? Have a roided pitcher and a roided hitter going toe to toe? A 110MPH sinker getting turned around into a 650 foot homer? Good stuff.

In short, lets clown the game up as much as possible. Give me lolz or give me death.

Yeah - that's the problem with introducing these types of exceptions. It's a slippery slope affecting the integrity of the sport. You joke about the aluminum bats but I could see that 10 years down the road being discussed. I really wish they got rid of shootouts in hockey. What a stupid thing to introduce. Just play 3 on 3 in OT.

[KelVarnsen]

I can see it now.

Tie game in the bottom of the 9th inning with 1 out. Runners on 2nd and 3rd, with Ohtani coming up. Joe Maddon intentionally walks Ohtani to get to Betts. Dodgers use the golden AB to get Ohtani back to the plate.

Maddon intentionally walks Ohtani again to end the game.

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

I can see it now.

Tie game in the bottom of the 9th inning with 1 out. Runners on 2nd and 3rd, with Ohtani coming up. Joe Maddon intentionally walks Ohtani to get to Betts. Dodgers use the golden AB to get Ohtani back to the plate.

Maddon intentionally walks Ohtani again to end the game.

What would be funny is if Ohtani gets on base, so they send in a pinch runner... Or Ohtani gets thrown out (on purpose), so he can be sent out again instead of being on base. Honestly it's a stupid rule.

Why not make it like basketball and create a two-pointer where there's a designated spot in every ballpark where a home run=two runs. Or if a pitcher strikes out the golden batter it counts as three outs!

Well run leagues don't need gimmicks such as these, instead why not create a competitive field where one player isn't making more than the entire roster on another team? Address that problem first, before overcomplicating the sport.

[KelVarnsen]

The A's spending money?
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...-year-67m-deal

[bluejays]

Sosa indirectly admits to using PEDs. I have no problem with this. All should be forgiven as he never vehemently denied it like McGuire and Bonds. Those guys refuse to admit to anything and it’s kinda no big deal at this point.

[cheevers]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Sosa indirectly admits to using PEDs. I have no problem with this. All should be forgiven as he never vehemently denied it like McGuire and Bonds. Those guys refuse to admit to anything and it’s kinda no big deal at this point.

Screw the Cubs for making him apologize to them before he could be welcomed back though. They did nothing but profit off of him and I am sure knew what he was doing.

[SuperMatt18]

All those guys should be in the hall of fame.

Most guys in that era were juiced and everyone knew it. I was 10 years old during the home run chase in 1998 and I knew those guys were juiced. Even more by the Bonds HR record came around.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Bonds and Clemens should be in no matter what, were both nailed on HOFers even before the PEDs. A-Rod too. Sosa and Maguire are tougher cases to evaluate, probably aren't at a HOF level without the PEDs. But even if they let all the juicers in I wouldn't be too upset, tons of guys were juicing back then so the playing field was pretty level.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Bonds and Clemens should be in no matter what, were both nailed on HOFers even before the PEDs. A-Rod too. Sosa and Maguire are tougher cases to evaluate, probably aren't at a HOF level without the PEDs. But even if they let all the juicers in I wouldn't be too upset, tons of guys were juicing back then so the playing field was pretty level.

If you compare in the era it was more of a level playing feild because so many were juicing. Where it is tainted is the records, those are records during all eras including where there wasn't juicing.

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

The A's spending money?
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...-year-67m-deal

I think they are getting revenue sharing cut off if they don't