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Old 12-05-2024, 11:34 AM   #2501
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No threshold then?

How do I know when to be outraged or not outraged??
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Old 12-05-2024, 11:35 AM   #2502
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Oooh pardoning Fauci will make my blood boil.

Because of all the vaccines inside me of course.
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Old 12-05-2024, 11:37 AM   #2503
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They should just do blanket pardons going back to their date of birth for all Democrat officials in Congress, I say! And then Trump should do the same for the GOP. Then all officials will be immune from anything!
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Old 12-05-2024, 11:38 AM   #2504
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Fauci personally held a gun to my head and made me get the vaccine.

Mind you, my 5G coverage has been great ever since.
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Old 12-05-2024, 11:43 AM   #2505
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This may however be the finding out part of farting around for predatory businesses and the broken American health insurance industry. If the noble sacrifice of one CEO puts the fear of god into a few companies and helps bring costs under control I don’t see the harm.
As others have pointed out, what it means in the short-term is increased security around execs. In the long term, if political violence does become normalized it’ll just bring us closer to an alliance of government and big tech clamping down China-style on social media.

Anarchic violence is not the path to the overthrow of the system - it’s the path to a far more authoritarian state than we have today.
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Old 12-05-2024, 11:54 AM   #2506
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I also think pardoning Liz Cheney is a great 4d chess move. It'll help the Dems win over more Republican voters!
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Old 12-05-2024, 12:24 PM   #2507
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https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/04/08/...bad-thing.html

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According a study dating back to 2010, there were at least three times as many psychopaths in executive or CEO roles than in the overall population. But more recent data found it's now a much higher figure: 20 percent.
This does not mean they should be killed.
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Old 12-05-2024, 12:26 PM   #2508
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This does not mean they should be killed.
No, but maybe they shouldn't be running corporations that decide who lives and dies.
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Old 12-05-2024, 12:27 PM   #2509
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Stewart will give it to both parties. good for him.

Dems with their foot in their mouth.

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Anarchic violence is not the path to the overthrow of the system - it’s the path to a far more authoritarian state than we have today.
Okay, then. If this isn't the path, what is? A secret society that emerges with co-ordinated violence?
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Old 12-05-2024, 01:42 PM   #2511
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I also think pardoning Liz Cheney is a great 4d chess move. It'll help the Dems win over more Republican voters!
Oh yes, definitely! Biden now just screwing over the Democrats? Why not, he's riding off into the sunset in two months and the Democrats stabbed him in the back.
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Old 12-05-2024, 02:08 PM   #2512
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Oh yes, definitely! Biden now just screwing over the Democrats? Why not, he's riding off into the sunset in two months and the Democrats stabbed him in the back.
I saw a good video the other day among the thousands of other post-mortems on what happened in the election from a Dem perpsective. Pakman's been pretty insistent that sexism/racism was a big factor, which I disagree with (I think it was a small factor, but nothing that tipped the election to Trump), but I did agree with a lot of his analysis here. It's ridiculous that the Biden/Harris campaign simply ignored all their internal data which told them that Biden needed to go if they wanted to win and never had a contingency plan for the scenario when/if they needed to pivot in another direction. And then moving ahead with Harris despite the inner circle privately telling reporters that Harris was unelectable even after the first debate. It's so damn frustrating that the Dems seem to be able to manage to screw themselves over so often.

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Old 12-05-2024, 02:09 PM   #2513
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Biden's team are looking into additional pardons for others, including Liz Cheny, Adam Schiff and Anthony Fauci. This should go well!

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Man, if I were Biden I'd be pardoning everyone I could. He's going to walk away from the White House with his hands in the air like he just dont care.

Is there a serial killer on Death Row? Yeah....let him go. And give him a car and a gun.

Cause some Chaos! Lets do this!
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Old 12-05-2024, 02:13 PM   #2514
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Biden's team are looking into additional pardons for others, including Liz Cheny, Adam Schiff and Anthony Fauci. This should go well!
He needs to team up with Oprah for a prime time special and invite them all to be in the audience.. then BAM! everyone has a pardon taped to the bottom of their chairs!
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Biden should pardon the New York CEO killer.
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Pakman's been pretty insistent that sexism/racism was a big factor, which I disagree with (I think it was a small factor, but nothing that tipped the election to Trump), but I did agree with a lot of his analysis here.
Pakman is right on the money. The patriarchy and the fear of the white majority losing their grip on power as they become a minority is a major driving factor in the United States. It is also shown in down ticket voting. The majority of the United States is not comfortable with a woman in the driver seat, let alone a minority woman. If the ticket were flipped I believe the outcome would have been different. But a woman at the top of the ticket was a bridge too far for the majority of Americans. This has been validated in two of three elections involving Trump. Coincidence? Nope. Americans would rather have a criminal sexual predator running the country than a woman.
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Pakman is right on the money. The patriarchy and the fear of the white majority losing their grip on power as they become a minority is a major driving factor in the United States. It is also shown in down ticket voting. The majority of the United States is not comfortable with a woman in the driver seat, let alone a minority woman. If the ticket were flipped I believe the outcome would have been different. But a woman at the top of the ticket was a bridge too far for the majority of Americans. This has been validated in two of three elections involving Trump. Coincidence? Nope. Americans would rather have a criminal sexual predator running the country than a woman.
As I said before, I don't believe it. If Americans don't accept a woman at the top of the ticket, they wouldn't accept it at the bottom of it either. For 4 years, America was one 'shove' away from a woman president.

It didn't matter what the ticket was flipped or not because there wasn't a primary and that turned enough people off. I bet you there will be a woman president one day and she'll be Republican.
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Old 12-05-2024, 03:33 PM   #2518
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As I said before, I don't believe it. If Americans don't accept a woman at the top of the ticket, they wouldn't accept it at the bottom of it either. For 4 years, America was one 'shove' away from a woman president.

It didn't matter what the ticket was flipped or not because there wasn't a primary and that turned enough people off. I bet you there will be a woman president one day and she'll be Republican.
No one votes based on a vice presidential candidate, though. The fact that you can't believe that a very small number of the population (considering the difference between Clinton and Trump, and Harris and Trump) would hold sexist views is absolutely crazy. Especially in a country where women's rights are under increasing attack. The undertones of the campaign against Clinton and Harris were built upon misogamy and xenophobia. The number of times when Trump or his supporters used sexist language throughout the past 10 years makes me think that you haven't been paying attention, or are willfully blind to reality.

America is a deeply troubled country that is being led into the mouth of a tiger by the oligarchic ringmasters who take advantage of the uneducated and unemployed, giving them someone to be angry at for not achieving their American dream.
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you said it, a small number, not a 'big factor'
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Old 12-05-2024, 03:44 PM   #2520
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And just like that we see results. Definitely related? Hard to say but I'm not willing to rule it out. Sometimes violence is the answer. It's ok for the elite (please define as you see fit for the purposes of the narrative you’re pushing) to feel scared
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