2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[TheIronMaiden]

The Flames should absolutely Trade Vladar. Infact it is a very short list of guys I would not trade.

Bahl, Wolf, Coronato, Zary, Honzek, Parekeh


Anyone else is fair game for the right price.

[Monahammer]

Did a post get deleted? Who was getting mad at rumors and speculation? I tried reading up but couldn't find anything, other than Ozy being ridiculously stubborn about nothing. But I don't see anyone complaining about rumors or speculation.

[Calgary4LIfe]

In terms of they upcoming UFAs on the team, I think only Vladar at this point holds value. Kuzmenko may rebuild some value if he gets on a roll, especially for a team that needs a bit of help on the PP due to injury, or simply having a disappointing 2nd unit heading into the playoffs. After those two names, I have given up on accumulating any further assets from the upcoming UFAs. Mantha's season is over, Barrie hasn't nearly enough to have a team toss a low pick for him, and Hanley is just filler and may bring in a 7th.


If the Flames continue losing more than they win, I imagine the focus will shift from 'competing' to 'development'. That's what it was in 2013-14. The org then cycled through a lot of guys, and Hartley did a solid job of creating a good environment for these kids. I remembered that team played really well (especially in the 2nd half of the year) and kept the scores close, but still finished drafting 4th overall. I think that season should be the 'goal' for the year - just cycle through a lot of players from the farm, play hard, but not really pile on the wins. Not tanking. Just shifting the focus from 'competing' to 'development'. Tough job to do if you are Huska, and Conroy will have to clear up some room for them.


Defence in general has some work to be done. Solovyov is having a good season and already went through waivers once - will he pass again? Kuznetsov will be waiver eligible, as will Poirier too. To make things even more interesting, Parekh will probably be on the team next season - I can't imagine he goes back to junior for another year, and he won't be eligible for the AHL (IIRC) until the season after next, so it is the Flames or back to the CHL for him. One interesting option would see him go to the NCAA for a season or two now - IMO, that's the best path for him, but unless he wants that, I expect him to be on the Flames next season, making it difficult to rotate all the D. Grushnikov becomes waiver eligible after next season. Brzustevicz will probably be ready for some NHL time next season (if not by the end of this season already - he looked good in preseason after all). That's a lot of names to cycle through on defence in the next two seasons. Most of these will fail (and Jurmo looks like someone who is failing, but too early to say), but they are probably deserving of an NHL look at least.


On forward in the next couple of years, you have Honzek, Stromgren, Morton, Pelletier (getting a look now again), Ciona, Bell and Kerins. Plus if the Flames draft high enough, there is a strong chance that the 1st round pick this year will be too good to send down. It isn't as pressing as defence seems to be, however.


I am just starting to develop a completely irrational level of waiver wire angst for next season already, sorry. Regardless of my own state of mind, it certainly feels like the Flames will probably be changing some of the focus for the remainder of the season, probably starting in January, barring another segment of games this month where they greatly exceed expectations again.

[Bonded]

Andersson is the only player left with good value and has a tradeable contract. Will be interesting to see if they trade him.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Andrew

Tim Thomas Dwayne roloson. Goalies can be older

Sure, I am not talking about how good can Cooley be .


Just that he is old enough to deserve a chance and they can safely trade Vladar

I see no reason for not trading Vladar, unless the offer is so minimal

[Monahammer]

If Kuz has 0 value in a trade, I would keep him around. Maybe he'll sign a cheap contract to be a mid lineup player. I dont hate the attitude.

I think someone will pitch a 4th or so for him though at the deadline. He showed after his trade here that he can pop under the right circumstances and someone might need extra firepower for a playoff run.

I'm still interested in seeing if Coleman has value. He's not likely to ever get 30 again but the further away from that stat line we are the more his value drops.

I am unconvinced Kadri actually has value but willing to be excited if someone says he does. I only hope that the front office has enough gumption to ask him for the trade.

One of weegar or andersson should be traded. I personally think both but that has already been discussed to death. This asset should get us the most trade value.

Our d pipeline is actually stacked. I would not mind using one of those as a trade additive if we're stuck in those talks. One of Poirier, Solovyov, Grushnikov, Kuznetsov can probably be traded IMO.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Andersson is the only player left with good value and has a tradeable contract. Will be interesting to see if they trade him.

Arguably you could trade Kadri, if you were willing to swallow 2 Mil for the next 4 seasons.

[TheIronMaiden]

TBH it is tough for me to trade Andersson and Weegar, they are Brilliant players. I love them on my team, but the Flames also need to keep an eye on what they need for 3 years from now.

I would be happy extending Andersson, but understand why I trade makes sense.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Plus if the Flames draft high enough, there is a strong chance that the 1st round pick this year will be too good to send down.

The vast majority of first round picks don't make their team out of the draft.

I think Celebrini is it this year.

I guess Luchanko played a few games as well, but is now back at juniors.

And some would argue Demidov could perhaps have made it it as well.

Now, last year a lot of the early picks were dmen, and they generally take longer to develop.

[RedHawk12]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Sure, I am not talking about how good can Cooley be .


Just that he is old enough to deserve a chance and they can safely trade Vladar

I see no reason for not trading Vladar, unless the offer is so minimal

You probably hit it on the head right here, hence no deal so far.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

In terms of they upcoming UFAs on the team, I think only Vladar at this point holds value. Kuzmenko may rebuild some value if he gets on a roll, especially for a team that needs a bit of help on the PP due to injury, or simply having a disappointing 2nd unit heading into the playoffs. After those two names, I have given up on accumulating any further assets from the upcoming UFAs. Mantha's season is over, Barrie hasn't nearly enough to have a team toss a low pick for him, and Hanley is just filler and may bring in a 7th.


If the Flames continue losing more than they win, I imagine the focus will shift from 'competing' to 'development'. That's what it was in 2013-14. The org then cycled through a lot of guys, and Hartley did a solid job of creating a good environment for these kids. I remembered that team played really well (especially in the 2nd half of the year) and kept the scores close, but still finished drafting 4th overall. I think that season should be the 'goal' for the year - just cycle through a lot of players from the farm, play hard, but not really pile on the wins. Not tanking. Just shifting the focus from 'competing' to 'development'. Tough job to do if you are Huska, and Conroy will have to clear up some room for them.


Defence in general has some work to be done. Solovyov is having a good season and already went through waivers once - will he pass again? Kuznetsov will be waiver eligible, as will Poirier too. To make things even more interesting, Parekh will probably be on the team next season - I can't imagine he goes back to junior for another year, and he won't be eligible for the AHL (IIRC) until the season after next, so it is the Flames or back to the CHL for him. One interesting option would see him go to the NCAA for a season or two now - IMO, that's the best path for him, but unless he wants that, I expect him to be on the Flames next season, making it difficult to rotate all the D. Grushnikov becomes waiver eligible after next season. Brzustevicz will probably be ready for some NHL time next season (if not by the end of this season already - he looked good in preseason after all). That's a lot of names to cycle through on defence in the next two seasons. Most of these will fail (and Jurmo looks like someone who is failing, but too early to say), but they are probably deserving of an NHL look at least.


On forward in the next couple of years, you have Honzek, Stromgren, Morton, Pelletier (getting a look now again), Ciona, Bell and Kerins. Plus if the Flames draft high enough, there is a strong chance that the 1st round pick this year will be too good to send down. It isn't as pressing as defence seems to be, however.


I am just starting to develop a completely irrational level of waiver wire angst for next season already, sorry. Regardless of my own state of mind, it certainly feels like the Flames will probably be changing some of the focus for the remainder of the season, probably starting in January, barring another segment of games this month where they greatly exceed expectations again.

Great post. I agree. It’s why I would love to see some time for those young defencemen on the big club this year. Great opportunity for them to get experience in the NHL and for management to get a gauge of how close those players might be to being ready next year. Would hate for the assumption to be that a guy will not be ready to play regularly in the NHL next year when they haven’t been given time this year. That could lead to more signings in the offseason to fill out the roster.

I’m ready for the team to fill out the roster out with guys like Brz, Poirier, Soloviov, Grushnikov and Parekh next season instead of Hanley, Bean and Barrie. I know it’s important for young guys to play so even if it means cycling guys in and out of the lineup, I’m fine with that. Don’t let anyone sit for long periods of time. There will be plenty of growing pains next year I think so I’m fine with the roster being shuffled with young players in and out of the lineup.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Arguably you could trade Kadri, if you were willing to swallow 2 Mil for the next 4 seasons.

I am not really sure if he is tradeable. If they retain they will need decent value and he is in complete control of where he goes. Tough one

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

If Kuz has 0 value in a trade, I would keep him around. Maybe he'll sign a cheap contract to be a mid lineup player. I dont hate the attitude.

I think someone will pitch a 4th or so for him though at the deadline. He showed after his trade here that he can pop under the right circumstances and someone might need extra firepower for a playoff run.

I'm still interested in seeing if Coleman has value. He's not likely to ever get 30 again but the further away from that stat line we are the more his value drops.

I am unconvinced Kadri actually has value but willing to be excited if someone says he does. I only hope that the front office has enough gumption to ask him for the trade.

One of weegar or andersson should be traded. I personally think both but that has already been discussed to death. This asset should get us the most trade value.

Our d pipeline is actually stacked. I would not mind using one of those as a trade additive if we're stuck in those talks. One of Poirier, Solovyov, Grushnikov, Kuznetsov can probably be traded IMO.

I don't hate Kuz' off ice attitude. HIs on ice work is an issue.

Coleman can be traded - retention is only a couple more years, which can be lived with.

There is already interest in Kadri apparently. But it is just a hard deal to make work.

I expect Andersson will be traded but maybe not this year.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

I read an article over the weekend (can't remember which publication) that discussed the Flames and Josh Norris from the Senators. Signed for another 6 yrs @ $7.95MM and seems to be often injured. I like the player in general, likely a 2nd line center long term upside I would speculate. Has there been any chatter about Norris outside of this article? What would a trade with the Sens look like? Assume they would be looking for defensive help with Zub being out?

I haven’t hears any rumours linking Norris to the Flames. But given his contract and injury history, he’s one of the more realistic possibilities for the Flames to upgrade the C position without giving up a truckload of futures. I’d expect any conversation to centre around Andersson.

[Monahammer]

Andersson for Norris is a big step down. Not sure we should be willing to accept that level of trade.

If you agree that andersson is worth a similar package to Hronek, then we'd need a pretty substantial addition to Norris to consider the trade. I happen to believe that Andersson is worth more.

Don't mind the idea of acquiring Norris, but not at the cost of Andersson.

[Ba'alzamon]

Yeah, Andersson for Norris would be a pretty egregious waste of Calgary's best trade chip.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon

Yeah, Andersson for Norris would be a pretty egregious waste of Calgary's best trade chip.

Yeah, there would need to be some decent futures added in from Ottawa's side. Kadri for Norris would be good

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I don't hate Kuz' off ice attitude. HIs on ice work is an issue.

Coleman can be traded - retention is only a couple more years, which can be lived with.

There is already interest in Kadri apparently. But it is just a hard deal to make work.

I expect Andersson will be traded but maybe not this year.

3 retention spots...not wise to tie them all up for years

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dino7c

3 retention spots...not wise to tie them all up for years

Kuz would be done this year, same for Vladar (though he might not need retention). Markstrom is done next year, Andersson would be done next year, Coleman's the year after. I think it's manageable.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by dino7c

3 retention spots...not wise to tie them all up for years

Markstrom uses 1.
Kadri uses 2.
Andersson uses 3.

That's how you do it to extract maximum value and finish collecting the resource pool for Conroy to build the asset base up.

You carry Markstrom and Andersson through the conclusion of 25/26, and then you get two spots back.

You carry Kadri until the conclusion of 27/28, but even at max retention ($3.5M), that's insignificant when compared with the potential upside of the return.

Kadri at 50% retained returns (at minimum) an additional 1st.
Andersson at 50% retained returns an additional 1st + a top prospect.

In 2025/2026, the Flames would carry 7.65M of dead cap-space, and then in 26/27 and 27/28 would carry $3.5M of dead cap-space. Hardly any sort of game breaker in the larger scheme of things.


I don't think Kuz, even at 50% retained, delivers any sort of value in return.