2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Bleeding Red

In trading Anderson, my question is which team has a obvious need in their top 4?

TOR is committed to 4 guys for multiple years at $3.5 mil or better. Do they sit Tanev?
(Plus any trade with TOR needs to be at a serious premium. Giving Tre the opportunity to be the guy who got the TML a cup should be way expensive - Minten, Cowen, ++)

I look at the Panthers or Rangers. Anderson would be a clear upgrade on at least 2 guys in their current top 4. NYR still has their 1st and both have lots of center prospects.

I think we need a premium to deal with Florida again. I don’t like how Zito carries himself and he has goggly eyes. Serious overpayment is a must.

I think the Flames should take less, far less, from other teams.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Bingo Jr.

I was pretty shocked by that Catton pick given their long-time C situation as you mentioned. Thought for sure they would go the Parekh/Dickinson/Silayev/Buium route.

They did not have Stephenson at the time and the verdict is still very much out on Wright.

[dammage79]

Catton also plays in the Krakens back yard so they likely went with who the knew the most of.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by indes

Rasmus @ 50% retention has to have some crazy value. What playoff teams even have the assets to add a top pair RHD for 1.5 seasons at 2.75m?

Alexander Nikishkin + ? from Carolina?
Easton Cowan + 1st + ? from Toronto?

Carolina has refused to include Nikishin in trade returns. Flames fans like me will have to content themselves with having him in their deep keeper pools.

[Sandman]

Nikishin led all D in the KHL in scoring in both 2022-23, and 2023-24, and broke records for his age group in both years by huge margins. He's been the Captain of SKA St. Petersburg since last season, when he was just 22 years old. In addition, he's a 6'4", 215lb stud. Carolina won't trade him for anything, or at least they better not.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Nikishin led all D in the KHL in scoring in both 2022-23, and 2023-24, and broke records for his age group in both years by huge margins. He's been the Captain of SKA St. Petersburg since last season, when he was just 22 years old. In addition, he's a 6'4", 215lb stud. Carolina won't trade him for anything, or at least they better not.

Happy to take Bradley Nadeau and Scott Morrow, as a consolation prize.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by harry lime

happy to take bradley nadeau and scott morrow, as a consolation prize.

100%.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Bingo Jr.

I was pretty shocked by that Catton pick given their long-time C situation as you mentioned. Thought for sure they would go the Parekh/Dickinson/Silayev/Buium route.

I have a good feeling Conroy was just as surprised if not a bit pissed off about that too

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by LiquidX

I think you guys tossing around trade proposals for Anderson are likely in for disappointment. If this team is in a playoff spot, I don't think he gets traded; he provides too much value and stability. Anderson brings compete, and management is not on Team Tank. I think moving any roster player currently is going to be a tough decision for connie.

I think there are guys that Connie brought in with the intention of getting them ice time and minutes to sell off. Those guys are bean, barrie, kuzmenko and mantha. But his more likely move at this point is to start weaponizing the cap space the team has as none of them have really done much to improve their value (imo). Maybe someone like Pelletier or Poirier.. (a team with poirier, parekh, and Brzustewicz making the team in the next couple years seems like a team with too many offensive defensemen).

Anderson could get a lot in return for sure, but not only would it decimate the defense, it would hurt the morale of the team by trading him (arguably their best player this year) away for assets that don't make an impact now, when the team is performing well.

I get it, christmas is coming, we all want shiny new toys - but ... if we get one, I doubt we move Anderson, or really any roster player making an impact right now.

But you left out the most important factors in why his name has come up and why he'll likely be traded this season or next.

His next contract would be a retirement deal for his 30's at likely $9+mil, and more importantly he has suggested he doesn't want to be here through this rebuild (royal9 suggested that could change slightly if the team keeps winning).

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Party Elephant

You got it, it was Cammalleri for Drouin the season in Cammy's last year with the flames and also Drouin's D+1 season. I don't remember who the poster was but I'm sure they'd be delighted to know the joke is still going more than 10 years later.

It was rerun I believe. It was so outlandish at the time considering how highly touted Druin still was, but honestly it's along the same lines as a lot of proposals you see on CP present day. Any time a Flame comes up as a possible trade piece, a bunch of posters look at recently drafted high end first rounders on other teams and think "yep, well give them our 29 year old soon to be free agent + Pospisal and that should do 'er".

And then others come in and go "whhhatt!! You DO NOT give up a guy like Pospisal, who knows what his ceiling is!!!".

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I can answer some of these

1. Conroy is open to looking at an extension with Rasmus but there's no "preference" in the matter, the power is in Rasmus's hands and no talks have happened since the summer.
2. He does not prefer to stay in Calgary, he wants to win a cup.
3. Most certainly his focus is on Calgary and winning here right now, but he's been very open and honest with Craig (like Tkachuk was previously) that his intent is winning a cup in the next 3 years. He's been very outspoken against a longer term rebuild.
4.I'm not aware of any firm date, I've been told its not that precise but I do know that Craig is taking calls on Rasmus almost weekly and that talks continue.
5. Craig will do what's right for the Flames long term, he's not going to blow a bunch of trades on a season like this one just for the sake of getting to the first round and losing. His focus remains young centers and building around the guys that WANT to be here long term.

The Flames are not actively shopping anyone right now, but Andersson and Vladar remain the 2 hottest commodities, along with teams looking to dump vets for our picks but Craig's not biting on those.

Exactly, love this from Craig. He's a great GM so far. He's gonna aim for good culture, but won't keep a mediocre team together and add to it just because hot goaltending has us in a playoff spot. He knows where we're at in this rebuild and will stay long term focused.

We need two more elite players minimum to become a contender. We can't look at this roster and go "oooh playof spot, re-sign all our core players regardless of age and add pieces and focus on playoffs!" Thankfully Craig understands this.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I think we need a premium to deal with Florida again. I don’t like how Zito carries himself and he has goggly eyes. Serious overpayment is a must.

I think the Flames should take less, far less, from other teams.

Calgary should take the best deal possible.

Suggesting that we need to get far far more from a team with a GM with goggly eyes is insane.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Calgary should take the best deal possible.

Suggesting that we need to get far far more from a team with a GM with goggly eyes is insane.

Applies to Toronto too. A lot of posters are all “no deals with Treliving” - if it’s a decent deal, why not?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Applies to Toronto too. A lot of posters are all “no deals with Treliving” - if it’s a decent deal, why not?

When you look at Treliving's work here, we should absolutely want to trade with him.

He's a terrible General Manager.

Although, the only thing that sucks more than him may be the Toronto Maple Leafs asset base.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Applies to Toronto too. A lot of posters are all “no deals with Treliving” - if it’s a decent deal, why not?

Exactly, especially since Toronto and Florida are in the East.

I find is especially strange with Florida. At the time of the trade, everyone thought that Treliving had fleeced Florida.

Calgary cannot afford to turn up their nose at better deals. I'm not sure any team can really.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

When you look at Treliving's work here, we should absolutely want to trade with him.

He's a terrible General Manager.

Although, the only thing that sucks more than him may be the Toronto Maple Leafs asset base.

For sure - I haven’t seen a Toronto deal that has made sense because while Calgary has what they want, the opposite just isn’t true.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Exactly, especially since Toronto and Florida are in the East.

I find is especially strange with Florida. At the time of the trade, everyone thought that Treliving had fleeced Florida.

Calgary cannot afford to turn up their nose at better deals. I'm not sure any team can really.

I'm not sure if fleecing was the depiction around here. There was a general angst of what they were going to get back for Tkachuk and when the deal came through and there was a grade A name, and a defenceman, the general thought was this was a very good deal under the circumstances where they could've bent us over. Then the question was Huberdeau was a free agent so could they sign him?


On a personal level I didn't mind the initial deal but really thought the writing was on the wall and it was a rebuild. As such, even moreso in hindsight, they should've flipped Huberdeau rather than begging him to be here. He got the Treliving special and here we are.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Calgary should take the best deal possible.

Suggesting that we need to get far far more from a team with a GM with goggly eyes is insane.

100%

You take the deal the benefits the Calgary Flames the most. Full stop. A GM is not doing their job if they’re refusing to trade with one team or another because of hurt feelings or geography.

It’s similar to Trump’s tariffs. At the end of the day he’s going to hurt his own constituents just as much, or more. (This last statement may belong elsewhere but I couldn’t help myself).

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by bluejays

I'm not sure if fleecing was the depiction around here.

Go back and re-read the thread and the signing thread. Treliving was having a statute built of him, especially when Huberdeau was resigned.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

For sure - I haven’t seen a Toronto deal that has made sense because while Calgary has what they want, the opposite just isn’t true.

This is the actual problem with trading with Toronto. They have volume to give but no elite prospects. Craig already has volume in the system in terms of dmen and in the future in terms of draft picks. Arguably he is approaching the point of having volume for wingers too. I suspect he is trying to find a center that projects to play in the top six. Not sure Toronto has that.