11-26-2024, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Shazam
Hockey players don't know how to fight. And anybody that knows how to fight knows that they should never fight unless as an absolute total last resort.
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Hockey players don’t know how to fight? Are you serious?
You can’t group “all hockey players” into a category for starters. Secondly, I know a few hockey players who have absolutely messed people up. They were both enforcers during their time in the ice though.
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11-26-2024, 09:02 AM
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#42
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Originally Posted by Doctorfever
Hockey players don’t know how to fight? Are you serious?
You can’t group “all hockey players” into a category for starters. Secondly, I know a few hockey players who have absolutely messed people up. They were both enforcers during their time in the ice though.
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Hockey players don't know how to fight. They know how to place a fist onto a guy's head. That's about it.
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11-26-2024, 09:02 AM
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#43
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Originally Posted by Rollin22x
What? I have a couple of friends that still get into fights in their mid 50's and there is no hair pulling or gouging eyes. These guys step in and start throwing punches from the start. Growing up with these guys it was either pick up a girl at the bar or pick a fight. It's why they usually win. I don't think you can attribute hockey to every aspect of Biz's life.
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Guys in their 40's/50's that still purposely get into fights are complete and utter losers. Sorry.
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11-26-2024, 09:04 AM
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#44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shazam
Hockey players don't know how to fight. They know how to place a fist onto a guy's head. That's about it.
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Good thing that’s a part of a fight then.
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11-26-2024, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Doctorfever
Good thing that’s a part of a fight then.
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Careful, you’re talking to a blue belt.
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11-26-2024, 09:25 AM
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#46
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
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11-26-2024, 09:26 AM
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#47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shazam
Hockey players don't know how to fight. They know how to place a fist onto a guy's head. That's about it.
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I have an in-law who is a former fighter/"energy player" with hundreds of NHL games and fought all the well known tough guys a decade ago.
He took his role very seriously and would religiously spend his off season weeks, and in-season weekends training with professional boxers and MMA fighters. It was his full time career and he absolutely owned it as such. They would train how to protect onself, take head & body blows, fall properly, and of course all manner of assaulting someone with the upper limbs. I dont doubt that he could handle multiple drunk idiots (who arent trained) simultaneously, and I bet Bissonnette is in a similar boat if he has kept up his fitness.
Also sounds like the fight was protracted throughout the restaurant, outside parking lot, and then across the street to the pharmacy. Probably means Bissonette was doing his best to keep his tactical positioning and not be surrounded, limit his engagements to one etc.
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11-26-2024, 09:31 AM
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#48
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Hopefully, the assailants' mug shots will be publicized so we can see the damage.
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11-26-2024, 09:35 AM
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Biz said he got kicked in the head and body a few times when he was on the ground in the video he posted. or "boot ####ed" as he put it...
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11-26-2024, 09:35 AM
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Hopefully these fools aren’t Canadians. Don’t know why, but when something like this happens and it makes big headlines it’s one of the first things I think of.
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11-26-2024, 09:39 AM
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#51
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Is it only me who paid attention to him going to this bar 4 times a week?
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It's a dog-eat-dog world out there and he's wearing milk bone underwear.
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11-26-2024, 09:45 AM
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#52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shazam
Hockey players don't know how to fight. They know how to place a fist onto a guy's head. That's about it.
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The goons from Biz Nasty's generation of hockey players knew how to fight. Hockey fighters born in the 70s or 80s or before knew how to fight. They also knew how to be intimidating and not show fear and that's huge in a fight.
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11-26-2024, 09:54 AM
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#53
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Originally Posted by Rollin22x
Have you seen the average person fight? More than half the people out there have no idea how to actually throw a punch. People that actually fight have a huge advantage.
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And most people have never actually been punched right in the face. If Biz connected one a couple of them I doubt they got much in after
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11-26-2024, 09:55 AM
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#54
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Originally Posted by Rollin22x
What? I have a couple of friends that still get into fights in their mid 50's and there is no hair pulling or gouging eyes. These guys step in and start throwing punches from the start. Growing up with these guys it was either pick up a girl at the bar or pick a fight. It's why they usually win. I don't think you can attribute hockey to every aspect of Biz's life.
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No eye gouging or hair pulling but they're absolute losers. Go to a boxing gym and spar, street fighting is for complete losers
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11-26-2024, 10:32 AM
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#55
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Originally Posted by BigThief
No eye gouging or hair pulling but they're absolute losers. Go to a boxing gym and spar, street fighting is for complete losers
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Hard to avoid the lifestyle when one of the dads was a bouncer at the King Eddy for 30 plus years. Add to that he's indigenous and the fights just came his way growing up. My dad taught me how to fight with oven mitts against my brothers. That's how we were taught to resolve our fights. People just grow up with very different influences. Some neighborhoods and schools, it was common.
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11-26-2024, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by NuclearFart
I have an in-law who is a former fighter/"energy player" with hundreds of NHL games and fought all the well known tough guys a decade ago.
He took his role very seriously and would religiously spend his off season weeks, and in-season weekends training with professional boxers and MMA fighters. It was his full time career and he absolutely owned it as such. They would train how to protect onself, take head & body blows, fall properly, and of course all manner of assaulting someone with the upper limbs. I dont doubt that he could handle multiple drunk idiots (who arent trained) simultaneously, and I bet Bissonnette is in a similar boat if he has kept up his fitness.
Also sounds like the fight was protracted throughout the restaurant, outside parking lot, and then across the street to the pharmacy. Probably means Bissonette was doing his best to keep his tactical positioning and not be surrounded, limit his engagements to one etc.
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lol "tactical positioning". "fall properly". Yeah because falling on skates is just like falling on your feet.
Here's what really happened: a bunch of drunks yelled at him, one of them tried to throw a punch at Bissonette, the guy fell over, everybody laughed and then they went along their way.
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11-26-2024, 10:44 AM
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#57
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Originally Posted by Rollin22x
Hard to avoid the lifestyle when one of the dads was a bouncer at the King Eddy for 30 plus years. Add to that he's indigenous and the fights just came his way growing up. My dad taught me how to fight with oven mitts against my brothers. That's how we were taught to resolve our fights. People just grow up with very different influences. Some neighborhoods and schools, it was common.
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Yeah, but your 50s.
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11-26-2024, 10:52 AM
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#58
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Well if hockey players can't fight where does that leave a wasted golfer? Anyways. good on Biz for stepping in. Will never understand why people feel the need to be dicks to servers, drunk or not there's no excuse for that crap.
Hopefully they give Biz free meals for life. Although by the sounds of how frequently he goes there it might not end up being very economical for the restaurant lol.
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11-26-2024, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Lewis_D
Well if hockey players can't fight where does that leave a wasted golfer? Anyways. good on Biz for stepping in. Will never understand why people feel the need to be dicks to servers, drunk or not there's no excuse for that crap.
Hopefully they give Biz free meals for life. Although by the sounds of how frequently he goes there it might not end up being very economical for the restaurant lol.
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This is essentially where I'm at too. Kudos to him for stepping in.
A fighter protecting people who are just trying to do their jobs. This is not in their job descriptions.
A bunch of drunken rowdies going after bus-boys and waitresses is a bad time.
Going after Biz? That is 'F' around and Find Out' time.
Some people need to be taught respect. At times...forcibly if necessary.
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