this season is feeling a lot like 2014-2015. The team seems to be sparked by a young american rookie that has dominated at every level he has played but is always doubted because of his height (gaudreau/wolf). We’re watching a former 1st round pick in his sophomore season potentially develop into a top 2 center (monahan/zary). A couple defencemen that have long been considered good have emerged into the level of being elite (brodie-gio/andersson-weegar). The defence looks unproven but is surprising everyone with their solid play (engelland, russell and wideman/bahl, pachal and miromanov). The team identity is established early as a grinding team that outworks its opponents on a regular basis.
I would say the bigger difference is the coaching is better now then it was then simply based on the team seems to outplay its opponents more often now compared to the 2014-2015 team which regularly got outplayed but had amazing comebacks late in games. Also… the 2014-2015 team did have a top line due to the gaudreau-monahan-hudler line turning into a fantastic #1 line… i think that could still happen for this years flames but, right now, they are still working out the lines.
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- Flames positioning was amazing. When they play structured, they lead. They certainly still sometimes forget - I think the team is still in a stage where players let their mind take over.
- Zary dummied the Rangers over and over. That kid was amazing.
- Speaking of which, Coronato was also amazing. Kuz and Shesh also played really, really well. All over the ice making plays and getting shots off.
- Weegar and Andersson are hella fun to watch. Pachal, Bahl, Bean and Miro are all boringly effective. Miro is probably the worst of the bunch - he definitely loses track of where he is on the ice more often than the others.
- Wolf is soooo smooth.
- Huby. Oh man. He's forgotten how to play hockey. He has a really tough time timing zone entrances.
- Rangers D are a tire fire getting out of their own zone, other than Fox. Wow they really lean on him.
- Rangers were trying to piss off Lomberg all night.
Don't let Scorp see this...
Miro had a rough start to the year IMO but he's been really good the last 10 games.
A big reason for this last 6-2-2 stretch is because Weegar-Miromanov found their game from the end of last season after a bit of a poor stretch the first 10 games when Bahl-Andersson were really carrying the team on defense.
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Does anybody know why Trocheck got an unsportsmanlike?
If I had to guess it's for chirping the refs.
There was a "hand pass" pretty much identical to the goal where a Flame reached up to grab it, but missed, and it deflected off his glove to a Flames player...and they blew it down as a hand pass.
You could see the entire Rangers bench stand up and start yelling right as it happened.
Does anybody know why Trocheck got an unsportsmanlike?
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If I had to guess it's for chirping the refs.
There was a "hand pass" pretty much identical to the goal where a Flame reached up to grab it, but missed, and it deflected off his glove to a Flames player...and they blew it down as a hand pass.
You could see the entire Rangers bench stand up and start yelling right as it happened.
I was listening on the radio, and Wills was saying it was for yelling at the refs for the hand pass calls, and that they had probably already been warned.
I think it was a good call. Huberdeau tried to grab it, but didn't and it deflected without him purposely changing the direction. I get why optically the Ranger on the bench thought something else though. And I also get that there is general inconsistency with this rule, which is frustrating. I am sure the Flames have had goals called back for less in the past.
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I think it was a good call. Huberdeau tried to grab it, but didn't and it deflected without him purposely changing the direction. I get why optically the Ranger on the bench thought something else though. And I also get that there is general inconsistency with this rule, which is frustrating. I am sure the Flames have had goals called back for less in the past.
No this was another play where the rags player hand passed it and the ref noticed. It was totally a hand pass, I watched the entire play, Trocheck is just blind or wasn't paying attention.
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I really think the training camp set this group up for success so far this season. The coaches emphasized uptempo type of hockey heavy on forecheck and speed. I agree with a lot of posters as well how we have an effective 4th line!
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I think it was a good call. Huberdeau tried to grab it, but didn't and it deflected without him purposely changing the direction. I get why optically the Ranger on the bench thought something else though. And I also get that there is general inconsistency with this rule, which is frustrating. I am sure the Flames have had goals called back for less in the past.
I remember a goal called back (against the Oilers?) due to a puck deflecting off the outside of the glove along the boards with zero intent to change the direction of the puck. It does seem to be arbitrary
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I remember a goal called back (against the Oilers?) due to a pick deflecting of the outside of the glove along the boards with zero intent to change the direction of the puck. It does seem to be arbitrary
That doesn't look like the one I'm thinking of. But yeah, it's a bad call.
Yeah, I recall a different one in the last year or two where there was a bit of a scrum in the corner and the puck bounced off a player's glove (I thought it was also Coleman) to another Flame, who scored. After a long deliberation, the other team challenged and it was called back. I don't remember who that was against.
Unfortunately, the NHL doesn't do a good job of archiving goals that get overturned after a challenge.
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Keefe called a timeout before the challenge as well, as Huska did last night. It's annoying, but a smart move by both coaches
I figured based on the call in the Leaf's game that last night's goal was definitely coming back. You could argue a little more intent with Coleman's and that's why it was called back.
Key thing with the rule is the "in the opinion of the officials." They probably determined it was either not a "bat" or it didn't allow the Flames to get an advantage as that suggests some type of intent and Huberdeau just flubbed it. There's some subjective flexibility in the way that rule is written.
This is one of those plays that would benefit from refs being interviewed after the game. Could provide a lot more clarity.
