If you look at it that way, it makes a worse case for Wolf.
65 goalies have played a minimum of 3 games this season, 74 have played 1. So use 74 goalies and let's put Wolf at 12 from your 10-15th overall. That puts him in the top 16.2% of goalies this season. If you go with 3 games min. then he is top 18.5%
There have been 669 players that have played a minimum.of 40 minutes ice-time, so what would be around 3+ games. 699 played 15 minutes or more, equal to maybe 1 game. Stankoven is currently 58th in points, or top 8.3% of players, and Michkov is 74th, or top 10.6%.
Relative to their peers, both would be in a higher percentile compared to Wolf.
Still loving the season Wolf has had so far and he'll only continue to get better. Also plays a much more important position, he'll be in discussion all season and hopefully at least get a nod.
I get your point, but those numbers include defensemen, which makes the players look higher than they deserve. Doing the same thing, but just using forwards, would be a more fair comparison.
This isn't fair either. If you're only considering starters (30 goalies), then you should only consider top 6 for forwards.
Well, makes no sense to include back up goalies.
There are lots of 3rd line players who are very good, such as Stankoven.
Its really whether they get PP time.
But if Wolf keeps this up, he'll start getting more of the starts, and he'll be in the discussion. If he keeps playing like he has and gets 55 starts, he'll win.
Yes, the one goal he has allowed in his last two games was actually an incredible save - one of his best all year - it just happened to take place a millimeter or two behind the goal line.
In the media, timing can be important - posting a shutout, the day after 3 articles introduced him to the Calder race, will definitely have an impact on the attention he is receiving.
So, if a person wanted to actually make a bet on Wolf to win the Calder, what site allows Canadian's to bet and has the Calder trophy as a betting option? I've seen a few sites list the odds, but none seem to allow you to make a bet, or are for the States only.
So, if a person wanted to actually make a bet on Wolf to win the Calder, what site allows Canadian's to bet and has the Calder trophy as a betting option? I've seen a few sites list the odds, but none seem to allow you to make a bet, or are for the States only.
Draftkings, bet365, bet99 are just a few.
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It might just come down to how many games Wolf ends up playing. He has been great so far, but I think a big part of that could be because how they are managing workload.
It's been like 15 years or so since a goalie won it (Steve Mason in 08/09, and he played in 61 games). Before that, Raycroft won in 203/04 playing in 57 games. Then Nabokov won in 00/01 playing in 66 games.
I think that is one of the reasons that makes it a more difficult award for a goalie to win. For Wolf to have a real chance, he probably needs to get close to 60 games. Given how Huska likes to rotate goalies, it's going to be a tough benchmark to reach.#
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I'm not saying it's what I want to happen. The Flames have been insisting they have 2 good goalies and have split starts equally, they're trying to pump Vladar's value to get a 2nd for him, and they're probably going to continue doing it unless the gap between their stats becomes too obvious to ignore.
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The thing is, my posts, thoughts and insights may be my opinions but they're also quite factual.
I'm not saying it's what I want to happen. The Flames have been insisting they have 2 good goalies and have split starts equally, they're trying to pump Vladar's value to get a 2nd for him, and they're probably going to continue doing it unless the gap between their stats becomes too obvious to ignore.
I think they'll continuer to reward wins with starts. It's easy for everyone to understand, seems fair.
If Vladar responds by going on a streak, that's good pressure/competition for Wolf.
Honestly guys, goaltending is the least of our worries right now and Vladar is worth more to us than he is to other teams - in both the stability he provides and the role he plays in bringing out the best in Wolf and Cooley. It's probably at least a couple of months before he gets moved.
I'm not saying it's what I want to happen. The Flames have been insisting they have 2 good goalies and have split starts equally, they're trying to pump Vladar's value to get a 2nd for him, and they're probably going to continue doing it unless the gap between their stats becomes too obvious to ignore.
If you mean wins and losses the team in front of them might have to learn to score more than 2 goals.
Edit: Today I learned that "goomba" (the little dudes from the Mario games) is very close to "goombah" (a slang term for Italians).
I've been using it for years as a fun alternative to "idiot" or "simpleton" or "lemming" etc, because goombas in Mario games are just little mushroom dudes running around looking brainless... sooo when I'm saying things like, "look at this friggin goomba" to my buddy while they're showing Draisaitl moping his way to the penalty box on TV... It's possible my buddy thinks I'm being racist and that I also don't know Draisaitl is German lol.
There is not a clear cut scoring phenom leading this year. Two rookies floating around a ppg early on but nothing we have not seen before. If Wolf can maintain a save % between .910-.915 he should be the frontrunner just off of having a season that is exceedingly more rare to accomplish at his age than a rookie winger scoring 60-70 pts, with one winger who already played 43 NHL games last year.
The only problem with Wolf is his mask game is pretty rough.
I wish he would take a little Markstrom/Kipper inspiration.
A flaming wolf skull could look amazing
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Is this total for the season or is it normalized in some way? If it’s total then it’s really impressive since I assume has significantly fewer starts and shots against than the others.
There is not a clear cut scoring phenom leading this year. Two rookies floating around a ppg early on but nothing we have not seen before. If Wolf can maintain a save % between .910-.915 he should be the frontrunner just off of having a season that is exceedingly more rare to accomplish at his age than a rookie winger scoring 60-70 pts, with one winger who already played 43 NHL games last year.
Yet, if Stankoven and Mishkov get 80 points or so, and Wolf gets 45 games, Wolf won't win, even if he deserves to.
Now 60 point is another thing, but there is nothing to suggest Stankoven and Mishkov will be at that level.
