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Old 11-14-2024, 12:03 PM   #2841
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My favourite ridiculous thing was the ancient Sith dagger with the design that somehow lined up perfectly with the ~30 year-old ruins of the second Death Star.
And yet JJ keeps finding work.
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Or as I liked to call Finn, he was the "Whoo" guy. Go back and watch his journey, you're right it could have been a cool story gay or not. But there was no feeling of trauma at being indoctrinated as a Storm Trooper, there was no breaking that change. By the time the third movie came around, he was an afterthought.


And Rose's story was ridiculous and came from the Jar Jar factor to the point by the third movie she couldn't participate in the battle or be a hero because she had to "Study".


The writing beyond the obvious in the ST was just fricken awful, it felt like JJ gave up in the third movie and just crammed some fan service in as an apology for the second movie.
The opening scene of the Force Awakens had me so pumped for Fins character. A somewhat obvious, yet great, concept to explore the psychology of a storm trooper. That opening scene was so visceral, with its depiction of violence. And Phasma seemed like such a great secondary villain. They could have done a bit of a Theon/Ramsay angle with that.

Then.....we get Finn the wise cracking swashbuckling sidekick.

The very idea of two competing directors both doing everything they could to undo what the previous one had done is pretty comical. These are films with $300-400+ million dollar budgets and no one thought to have a plan ahead of time or reign in the pettiness of the directors.
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They did kind of space indiana jones-lite that last film. Star Wars was never that though. I don't get why they insist on turning the franchise into something other than what George created.

Strange that no one at LF today seems to understand the essence of SW and what made it unique.

That or they're tabling the right ideas and the mouse executives are hammering it into soulless vanilla space adventures under the star wars title instead.
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The opening scene of the Force Awakens had me so pumped for Fins character. A somewhat obvious, yet great, concept to explore the psychology of a storm trooper. That opening scene was so visceral, with its depiction of violence. And Phasma seemed like such a great secondary villain. They could have done a bit of a Theon/Ramsay angle with that.

Then.....we get Finn the wise cracking swashbuckling sidekick.

The very idea of two competing directors both doing everything they could to undo what the previous one had done is pretty comical. These are films with $300-400+ million dollar budgets and no one thought to have a plan ahead of time or reign in the pettiness of the directors.
The whole thing was just a comedy of errors.

JJ made a remake of ANH and then passed the ball until he got a panicked phone call and then knee-jerked into an expensive over-reaction.

What a disaster.

None of the characters were good, interesting or even had much of anything to do.

The Star Wars Galaxy is pretty much the same at the end of third film as it was at the beginning of the first. Maybe with less Palpatine. Maybe. He has a tendency to become alive again for reasons.

Maybe Ian McDiarmid has back-end rights that require him to be included? I dont know.
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Don't forget Rey stole all the original Jedi manuals while Luke wasn't looking.
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With Kathleen at the helm, the next group of movies will be "Somehow, Darth Vader returned"
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You want to know how stupid some of these people are?

Give me a budget and I can make a great Star Wars movie about a boy janitor named Scruffy who has to save the Galaxy using nothing but his wits and a mop.

He meets an unwitting cleaning lady and together they take on the Galaxy!

Its goddamned dead-easy.
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There is a good chance that Disney forgot.
Well no one wants the job of rewatching TLJ to keep track of the circus of non-sensical plot developments.
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And yet JJ keeps finding work.
He actually hasn't been given any directing roles since the Rise of Skywalker.
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The opening scene of the Force Awakens had me so pumped for Fins character. A somewhat obvious, yet great, concept to explore the psychology of a storm trooper. That opening scene was so visceral, with its depiction of violence. And Phasma seemed like such a great secondary villain. They could have done a bit of a Theon/Ramsay angle with that.

Then.....we get Finn the wise cracking swashbuckling sidekick.

The very idea of two competing directors both doing everything they could to undo what the previous one had done is pretty comical. These are films with $300-400+ million dollar budgets and no one thought to have a plan ahead of time or reign in the pettiness of the directors.

I mean honestly, they could have done so much with Finn, especially trying to have him overcome a life time of conditioning.



They could have shown a young man with serious psychological harm trying to over come the fact that he probably participated in some pretty evil acts as a storm trooper.


He could have been a really interesting study, instead he got over his defection in about 8 seconds. Then in the second movie he became the bland woo guy. Then in the third movie, he was really nothing more then a NPC character.


I think out of all of the characters he was the most dissapointing.



And with Palpatine, I give the PT credit, they made him an awesome villain, that carried through to the OT and even his arrogance that lead to his death was kind of a cool payback moment to order 66.


In the ST he was a monster of the week with a pole jammed up his butt. His logic and reasoning, and the Sith eternal was just incredibly stupid and went against everything that made the Sith a cool and secretive small cult.
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Strange that no one at LF today seems to understand the essence of SW and what made it unique.
I think Tony Gilroy and Jon Favreau have both done excellent jobs with Andor and Mando. If I were Kennedy, I would just hand over the keys to those two guys and let them go nuts.
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I think Tony Gilroy and Jon Favreau have both done excellent jobs with Andor and Mando. If I were Kennedy, I would just hand over the keys to those two guys and let them go nuts.
This is the kind of the thing that never ceases to amaze me.

I generally employ between 2 and 3 people. If you've got employees who get the bit in their teeth and take off and start kicking ass?

Just don't get in their way.
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Henry Cavill rumored to be in discussions to have a role in the new trilogy

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A white male??

There must be a mistake.
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Might have been a fan made thing but I saw a Palpatine movie poster with Tom Hiddleston as a young Palpatine.
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A white male??

There must be a mistake.
Of course not. They are the only acceptable villains.
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One thing that would be great about having Caville in Star Wars is that he is a stickler for lore and accuracy. To the point where he left the Witcher over disagreements with the writers.

I'd love to see that kind of loyalty exist in Star Wars right now.
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