Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Firebot]

Well well...yet another binding arbitration put forth by the government that lasted a couple days. It's become quite a common tactic.

Since this is no longer a coalition and Singh used the previous actions to very publicly announce his divorce with the Liberals claiming the rail strikes to be the last straw, what is he going to do this time? A strongly worded tweet while simultaneously continuing to prop up this government?

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/feds...tion-1.7106999

Oh...he already did his standard tweet.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1856403358820515938

These are types of actions (or rather inactions) that causes classes of voters to go elsewhere when they realize a supposed union favoring working class party just tweets and do photo ops on picket lines versus actioning. The NDP has put themselves in quite the corner.

[Locke]

Thats an odd shot at the Cons.

I mean...what does he expect them to do? They're not Government. They can't negotiate. What does he want? A statement or something? To what end?

If I were them I'd let Justin clean up his own mess.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Locke

Thats an odd shot at the Cons.

I mean...what does he expect them to do? They're not Government. They can't negotiate. What does he want? A statement or something? To what end?

If I were them I'd let Justin clean up his own mess.

How dare they score political points by allowing my "ally" to fall flat on his face again and again!

Honestly, they win 0 by making any statement about this. They're pitching a pro worker platform while not really doing anything pro worker, outside of Pierre visiting work sites and loudly commenting about getting Canada back to... some thing? I don't understand what he is trying to restore, just that he's trying to restore it.

[Fuzz]

Uh, this all seems like blatant messaging to the voter. Obviously he expected Trudeau to do this and knows the Conservatives would do the same, so he's gonna bang that drum. He doesn't really have much influence here, so I'm not sure what you'd expect him to say, other than this.

[Monahammer]

It's true, he has no choice but to say things like that... but he might have better options if he hadn't led his party to total irrelevance over the last 4 years. He could talk about how they forced trudeau to the table by threatening an election at literally any point. Hell he could have done that for the port workers in this specific instance. Instead, he just looks like the weak prattling fool that he continues to prove himself.

[Monahammer]

I am not saying that would have been tactically feasible to threaten at this point, but he could have done it.

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Uh, this all seems like blatant messaging to the voter. Obviously he expected Trudeau to do this and knows the Conservatives would do the same, so he's gonna bang that drum. He doesn't really have much influence here, so I'm not sure what you'd expect him to say, other than this.

Of course he has a choice and influence, just as he did when he very publicly announced his deal with the Liberals over to the media (without even consulting Trudeau). Well at least that's his play. The problem is a major action coming from the NDP especially now that he broke the agreement may lead us to an election. So tweets it is.

If he continues to vote in confidence with the government despite all the shenanigans he pulled a couple months ago, it means he is ok with this. This is what, the 3rd major binding arbitration in the past year and all Singh has done is put tweets out, and nothing of consequence is occurring outside of his little theatre play with the deal that no longer exists yet nothing has really changed except the Bloc making demands now?

The next election is lost, may as well try to build some backbone and work to win over the working class back for when the Conservatives eventually falter.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Are you suggesting that if the democrats called for moderate to restrictive legistlation that the republicans would just go with that...for some reason?

Judging by their expressed opinions, voters would probably go for it. If the Republicans want to stake out a position that’s unpopular with voters, let them. Don’t interrupt your enemy when they’re making a mistake.

I’m just spitballing here, but staking out popular positions in order to win elections might be a pretty effective political strategy.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Judging by their expressed opinions, voters would probably go for it. If the Republicans want to stake out a position that’s unpopular with voters, let them. Don’t interrupt your enemy when they’re making a mistake.

I’m just spitballing here, but staking out popular positions in order to win elections might be a pretty effective political strategy.

Ok, I follow you now. Not sure how that squares with anything we've seen. Kinda seems like extreme republican policies actually are popular and/or people just don't want a broad in the big chair.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I am not saying that would have been tactically feasible to threaten at this point, but he could have done it.

Gotta get that pension!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1855065118750470278

[iggy_oi]

Firebot are you going to be offended if I use one of your favourite terms, “the usual suspects”, to describe the posters who don’t really give a crap about workers or their right to strike that are trying to grandstand on the backs of those workers and their rights as a means to argue for why Singh should force an early election despite the fact that it won’t actually improve the situation these workers are faced with?

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Locke

Thats an odd shot at the Cons.

I mean...what does he expect them to do? They're not Government. They can't negotiate. What does he want? A statement or something? To what end?

If I were them I'd let Justin clean up his own mess.

Maybe the CPC could offer a supply and confidence deal with the NDP and the BQ with the condition that they will not intervene in any strikes? That’d send a much stronger message to workers that they support them instead of just pretending when it’s politically convenient.

[Ozy_Flame]

So former BC NDP Leader John Horgan passed away (RIP), and the common sense Conservatives send their condolences:

[Fuzz]

Meanwhile, Danielle Smith blames him for not seeing his naturopath sooner.

[PepsiFree]

You know condolences are genuine when they shoehorn campaign messaging into it.

[Doctorfever]

I agree. Tweet is distasteful.

Not everything needs a political message built in.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Pierre is distasteful not just his tweet. #### that guy.

[woob]

So is Mark Carney "taking steps for a possible election run" real, or are we stuck with Trudeau until the inevitable take over of Common Sense Pierre? And if it is real, is it enough to revive the Liberals? Kind of feels like that party is tainted for awhile, and maybe Carney needs a new tent to campaign under.

[Johnny Makarov]

Remember.. a vote for the Reform Deform Party means you a freedumb trucking deplorable!

We need to ship Pierre to the US to be with his kind.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by doctorfever

i agree. Tweet is distasteful.

Not everything needs a political message built in.

cpc.........