GM Meetings: Daly warns GMs about tampering. Considering shorter max term contracts
Daly was uncomfortable with some of the reports about deals getting done before July 1st.
Daly reminded GMs about rules and potential discipline (fines and loss of draft picks at the leagues discretion)
GM executive committee has asked the NHL to negotiate with the NHLPA to shorten the maximum term from 8 years
Daly has said this is not necessarily a priority item
Changes to the CBA because of the new CHL/NCAA rules are TBD.
It isn't a question of smart or dumb. Agents of star players know there's always a GM out there who will offer max term, so they make that non-negotiable. Even with RFAs, if you don't offer a guy the whole 8 years, he can Tkachuk you and walk to UFA status at the earliest possible date.
The only way to stop those deals is to take them off the table for every team.
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GM executive committee has asked the NHL to negotiate with the NHLPA to shorten the maximum term from 8 years
Hey GM's... I have the solution for you and it doesn't involve having to negotiate with the NHLPA at all... are you listening? ready? okey here it comes... "just don't sign guys to contracts that long".
I'm really annoyed whenever stuff like this gets floated. Management incompetence mitigation shouldn't be a defacto CBA item, just hire smarter people to run your hockey teams.
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It isn't a question of smart or dumb. Agents of star players know there's always a GM out there who will offer max term, so they make that non-negotiable. Even with RFAs, if you don't offer a guy the whole 8 years, he can Tkachuk you and walk to UFA status at the earliest possible date.
So what.
Look, signing those deals is one of two things... it's a good idea or it's a bad idea. If it's a good idea then you should do it and if it's a bad idea then you let someone else make that mistake.
I think this is nothing more then the GM's collectively defacto admitting that they're nothing but a collection of short-sighted individuals with no impulse control (or you know... people who shouldn't be a top executive for billion dollar companies). Learn to suck it up, put on some big boy pants and control yourselves fellas... it's not the League or the Unions job to stop you from ####ing up. That's all on you.
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5 for UFA, 6 if you're re-signing your own guys seems fair.
But really if GMs don't like it then stop giving them out.
Personally as a smaller market team I like being able to offer 8 years to a guy coming off an ELC to be able to keep them longer.
In a world where 6 years is the max then players are easily potentially UFAs at 27, even if the team gave them max term
Ya shorter term means that you probably lose young players quicker. It would allow the big market teams the ability to get top players before they are too old.
The NHL should clamp down on tampering. I never understood the point of having rules against it if you aren't going to enforce them. I get that sometimes it might be hard to prove, but I doubt they even look into it.
Hopefully they are also looking into the LTIR strategy for stacking rosters for the playoffs. It was mentioned by someone recently that it was going to be a point of discussion.
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It isn't a question of smart or dumb. Agents of star players know there's always a GM out there who will offer max term, so they make that non-negotiable. Even with RFAs, if you don't offer a guy the whole 8 years, he can Tkachuk you and walk to UFA status at the earliest possible date.
The only way to stop those deals is to take them off the table for every team.
I don’t want them stopped. I want them to continue. As long as someone is stupid enough to pay top dollar for someone’s 30s, have at it. The Carolinas of the league will keep letting players just leave and icing good teams.
Ya shorter term means that you probably lose young players quicker. It would allow the big market teams the ability to get top players before they are too old.
Make the maximum term for re-signing your own players 7 years and 5 years for signing a UFA after July 1st.
It would be like the current 7/8 year model, but would further incentivize good young players to stick with their teams while lowering term limits in general. It would also increase the trade value of players on expiring deals if the acquiring teams gets the benefit of 2 additional years instead of just the 1. I don't know, maybe anyway.
You could also bring back team and/or player optional years.
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"A pessimist thinks things can't get any worse. An optimist knows they can."
Ya shorter term means that you probably lose young players quicker. It would allow the big market teams the ability to get top players before they are too old.
If a 21 does the 3/5 he is gone at 29, kind of when you want to let them go.
Hey GM's... I have the solution for you and it doesn't involve having to negotiate with the NHLPA at all... are you listening? ready? okey here it comes... "just don't sign guys to contracts that long".
I'm really annoyed whenever stuff like this gets floated. Management incompetence mitigation shouldn't be a defacto CBA item, just hire smarter people to run your hockey teams.
So what.
Look, signing those deals is one of two things... it's a good idea or it's a bad idea. If it's a good idea then you should do it and if it's a bad idea then you let someone else make that mistake.
I think this is nothing more then the GM's collectively defacto admitting that they're nothing but a collection of short-sighted individuals with no impulse control (or you know... people who shouldn't be a top executive for billion dollar companies). Learn to suck it up, put on some big boy pants and control yourselves fellas... it's not the League or the Unions job to stop you from ####ing up. That's all on you.
The worst thing is that implementation of stupidity-proof rules eliminates one of the few places where a small market team can gain a competitive advantage: intelligence.
Make the maximum term for re-signing your own players 7 years and 5 years for signing a UFA after July 1st.
It would be like the current 7/8 year model, but would further incentivize good young players to stick with their teams while lowering term limits in general. It would also increase the trade value of players on expiring deals if the acquiring teams gets the benefit of 2 additional years instead of just the 1. I don't know, maybe anyway.
You could also bring back team and/or player optional years.
Good luck in getting the large market teams to agree to that. The leagues strongest markets have little incentive in incentivizing good young players to stay with their small market teams.
What you are suggesting is fair and reasonable but it will never get passed.
GM Meetings: Daly warns GMs about tampering. Considering shorter max term contracts
