11-12-2024, 11:56 AM
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#1521
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stemit14
Pittsburgh is the best fit for Vladar IMO. But I think they would have to do something soon before it’s too late. Their goaltending (and team defence) is sinking their season.
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But all those teams will be asking the same question: Is Vladar better than what we have?
I'm not sure he is.
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11-12-2024, 11:59 AM
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#1522
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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I think the only legit team that could realistically say Vladar is definitively better than what they already have is Colorado. And even then, there will probably be better options for them on the market ... really depends on what ANA does with Gibson.
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11-12-2024, 12:01 PM
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#1523
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
But all those teams will be asking the same question: Is Vladar better than what we have?
I'm not sure he is.
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I think he fits what lots of teams with bad goaltending might want - an established NHL goaltender who is playing well this season and could be acquired for a reasonable price (probably a 3rd round pick -or maybe a 2nd round pick with retention).
Clearly better starting goaltenders than what Pittsburgh has (or other teams with bad goaltending) aren’t really available right now. If other teams have a starting goaltender that looks really good, they won’t trade them this early (think of Markstrom last year). If a team like Pittsburgh wants to salvage their season before it’s too late, they might have to gamble on a goalie that’s just playing better than their goalies right now rather than a goalie that has a long track record as a starting goaltender that’s levels above their current goalies.
Last edited by stemit14; 11-12-2024 at 01:26 PM.
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11-12-2024, 12:03 PM
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#1524
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I think the only legit team that could realistically say Vladar is definitively better than what they already have is Colorado. And even then, there will probably be better options for them on the market ... really depends on what ANA does with Gibson.
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John Gibson?
He has fallen off the map since 18/19
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11-12-2024, 12:05 PM
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#1525
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
John Gibson?
He has fallen off the map since 18/19
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I get it, and I agree, but I think GMs will be more inclined toward Gibson as an upgrade based on his pedigree and track record. I think whichever team makes that move will probably be making a mistake, but I think Gibson will be the top dog on the market regardless if Anaheim makes him available.
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11-12-2024, 12:13 PM
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#1526
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I get it, and I agree, but I think GMs will be more inclined toward Gibson as an upgrade based on his pedigree and track record. I think whichever team makes that move will probably be making a mistake, but I think Gibson will be the top dog on the market regardless if Anaheim makes him available.
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Yup, some GM will say he has been on a dumpster fire of a team and will bounce back.
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11-12-2024, 12:13 PM
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#1527
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Reimer on waivers today, guessing the Avs give him a try
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11-12-2024, 12:17 PM
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#1528
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Whoever the guy on Twitter was that said Dvorak was hitting waivers yesterday is about as much an insider as I am.  Not there today either.
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11-12-2024, 12:19 PM
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#1529
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Back in Calgary!!
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I know Colorado already has their cup, but man oh the Treliving levels of inability to address the goaltending is a bit of a black mark on a team that should be in the dynasty conversation.
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11-12-2024, 12:21 PM
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#1530
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I think the only legit team that could realistically say Vladar is definitively better than what they already have is Colorado. And even then, there will probably be better options for them on the market ... really depends on what ANA does with Gibson.
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Does Colorado even have any space with Nichushkin getting activated soon?
Vladar makes a ton of sense for them given his cap hit.
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11-12-2024, 12:33 PM
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#1531
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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With Cooley and Wolf playing well.
Trading Vladar does make sense. Especially since the Flames are trending to lose their 1st this year.
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11-12-2024, 12:36 PM
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#1532
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Dostal looking good is totally defeating the Gibson narrative, IMO.
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11-12-2024, 12:41 PM
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#1533
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Normally, my desk
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
Does Colorado even have any space with Nichushkin getting activated soon?
Vladar makes a ton of sense for them given his cap hit.
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No,but only by about $300k so they can just send someone down. Gets real interesting if Landeskog does indeed come back though. They have to clear out his whole $7M salary in other people to fit him in. Funnily enough Middlestadt + Georgiev - Vladar = $6,950,000 
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11-12-2024, 12:45 PM
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#1534
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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lol i got #### on for proposing a conditional 1st so good luck on the subtle Middlestadt inclusion! 
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11-12-2024, 01:36 PM
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#1535
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Meh, there's value in not letting your conference get stronger for peanuts. There's also no time pressure to trading him.
Ultimately, if Cooley attracts higher bids perhaps we should trade him and look to keep Vladar longer term. He and Wolf are proving to be a great tandem.
I am aiming lower bingo, less than 50% of the package Askarov got.
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Yes there is!
The trade deadline.
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11-12-2024, 01:59 PM
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#1536
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
lol i got #### on for proposing a conditional 1st so good luck on the subtle Middlestadt inclusion! |
Difference being the other poster included a massive cap dump...
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11-12-2024, 02:10 PM
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#1537
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbull8
Difference being the other poster included a massive cap dump...
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What? Georgiev's contract expires at the end of the season and is only $3.4 million.
Frankly I thought it was a given you would take him on in a goalie trade with colorado. Not sure how the 1.2 million more he makes than Vladar makes it a "massive cap dump" but sure.
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11-12-2024, 02:11 PM
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#1538
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
Yes there is!
The trade deadline.
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What do you think will come first? Avs panicking because their season is slipping down the drain due to extremely poor goaltending, or the trade deadline? I bet the former.
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11-12-2024, 02:16 PM
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#1539
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Franchise Player
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I think it will be less the season slipping away, considering they are holding the WC2 spot right now and 2 points back of CEN3. It will be more the level of confidence they will have with their goaltending in the playoffs.
Last edited by Robbob; 11-12-2024 at 02:18 PM.
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11-12-2024, 02:17 PM
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#1540
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
What? Georgiev's contract expires at the end of the season and is only $3.4 million.
Frankly I thought it was a given you would take him on in a goalie trade with colorado. Not sure how the 1.2 million more he makes than Vladar makes it a "massive cap dump" but sure.
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Ahh my bad, thought he had a little more term left
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