American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I didn't give you my perspective.
I said Americans won't elect someone with those things as primary focus points.

Don't mistake what I'm saying about Americans as my own perspective.
Women's rights, gay rights, trans rights, minority rights are all important to me, but they're only somewhat important to the average American.
The truth about where Americans priorities are isn't great, and that's why the voted for Trump.

FFS, those were not the primary focus points. The only one out of those that Harris even remotely ran on was womens' reproductive rights. The rest was all Trump and his cronies saying they were issues.

Harris ran on a middle class tax cut and higher taxes for wealthy and corporations, a child tax credit, housing initiatives, anti-price gouging and drug cost measures, and not being a fascist.

[PepsiFree]

If the status quo was a problem, and the people just chose something that wasn’t the status quo, and the Democrats were not progressive and instead just embodied the status quo, then it stands to reason that pushing progressive policies significantly harder which would present an alternative to the status quo would have been viable.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Sweet. Let's run it back again in 2028. Surely this time the voters will see the errors of their ways.

Sorry, too late. That door is closed. Elections are no longer required, at least free and fair elections. Lara Trump said yesterday that they want to nationalize elections: https://www.newsweek.com/lara-trump-...ration-1981845

I don't have to tell you how that will go, do I?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

Please don’t even joke about an actor becoming President. If they become that desperate just dismantle the party and let someone competent start a new one.

They've elected an actor once and a game show host twice now.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I’m pretty confident it’s going to be Newsom running in 28.

He ate DeSatin.

He’s got that celebrity to him.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I’m pretty confident it’s going to be Newsom running in 28.

He ate DeSatin.

He’s got that celebrity to him.

Whoever it is better win 80/20…

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Sweet. Let's run it back again in 2028. Surely this time the voters will see the errors of their ways.

It very likely will. Feels like we're in an era where we will see flip-flops back and forth as low information voters take over and go into every election mad at the incumbent.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

FFS, those were not the primary focus points. The only one out of those that Harris even remotely ran on was womens' reproductive rights. The rest was all Trump and his cronies saying they were issues.

Harris ran on a middle class tax cut and higher taxes for wealthy and corporations, a child tax credit, housing initiatives, anti-price gouging and drug cost measures, and not being a fascist.

FFS, the argument presented was Harris should have ran on more progressive policies, I DID NOT SAY SHE DID.

I said IF she had ran more progressive, she would have lost worse.
If reproductive rights wasn't enough for voters, those other issues sure as hell wouldn't have been.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

FFS, the argument presented was Harris should have ran on more progressive policies, I DID NOT SAY SHE DID.

I said IF she had ran more progressive, she would have lost worse.
If reproductive rights wasn't enough for voters, those other issues sure as hell wouldn't have been.

Guys, chill out. This had nothing to do with policies.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Seeing The Rock come out for debates in his sunglasses and then when they approach each other and shakes hands, The Rock continues holding his hands and gets real close to Trump's face, just looking at him with the shades still on. I'm so down for that.

Dont forget the fanny-pack! One must never forget the fanny pack!

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by kermitology

Guys, chill out. This had nothing to do with policies.

Just racism and misogyny?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Kybosh

They're heading right back to a new brand of McCarthyism. Buckle up. Neighbours ratting out neighbours.

Gonna be seeing a lot of stories of high speed chases as traffic stops turn into deportation stops. Desperate people with guns aren't a great combination. Not that anyone thinks of consequences of their policies these days.

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Just racism and misogyny?

Keep the dream alive!

[ResAlien]

lol they let Mel back in here? The Jan 6 guys must be getting pardons early

[MelBridgeman]

Calling over 70 million people racists and misogynists is the antithesis of critical thinking.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Canada does this (deports undocumented immigrants with kids born in Canada). Last year, there was a Roma family in Canada that was going to be deported after 6 years of trying to become "legal". During that time, they had 2 kids born in Canada, and then the verdict came down that they were to be deported. The whole family died trying to escape to the U.S. when the boat they were in flipped in the river. It was a really sad story.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...-end-1.6802638



I don't think people should be allowed to stay illegally, but if they do enter and at least declare that they are there and going through the system to try and get asylum, the process should be quick enough that they aren't having kids in the mean time. But for sure, you shouldn't have people sneaking in undocumented and countries have the responsibility to control who comes in. I don't agree with Trump's methods though because it still has to be a respectful and humane process.

It's a little different in Canada though. We have people here who come in undocumented and live with family and work under the table, but it's harder to live off of the grid here if you want health care so people tend to not do it unless they have a strong support system.

The reason Canada deports parents of Canadian born children is pretty simple, we didn't used to but about 25 years ago the snakeheads realized if their drug dealers got local girls preggers they couldn't be deported and so they began preying on teenage native girls mostly in care, getting them pregnant at 15 and 16, we had thousands of girls giving birth to mixed race kids and so they changed the law, for the last 20 years around half the kids in my foster home (basically all the indigenous kids) had a Salvadorian Honduran or Guatemalan absentee father, we are just getting to the end of this but I still have a 21 year old at my house whose mum was in care and dad is Salvadorian

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

Calling over 70 million people racists and misogynists is the antithesis of critical thinking.

unless they are, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar to quote Freud

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

I’m pretty confident it’s going to be Newsom running in 28.

He ate DeSatin.

He’s got that celebrity to him.

he needs to get out of Cali first

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

unless they are, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar to quote Freud

Stop and think how riddiculous that statement is.

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1855023229976670598