2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

The Necas offer is interesting. He hadn't broken out yet. But neither had Lindholm and Hanifin when we acquired them. Treliving's best trade was Hamilton for those two, taking the risk that the upside was there and not far off.

Surprising that Treliving didn't use the same strategy with Necas who by all accounts had a tonne of talent but hadn't put it altogether yet.

Conroy talked about one of the deals on the table for Tkachuk being futures-based, but the Flames’ braintrust didn’t want to go the rebuild route. I’m assuming he was referring to the rumoured Canes offer.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Conroy talked about one of the deals on the table for Tkachuk being futures-based, but the Flames’ braintrust didn’t want to go the rebuild route. I’m assuming he was referring to the rumoured Canes offer.

Yup, easy for him to say with hindsight but Conroy also said he would have gone a different route than they did.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Conroy talked about one of the deals on the table for Tkachuk being futures-based, but the Flames’ braintrust didn’t want to go the rebuild route. I’m assuming he was referring to the rumoured Canes offer.

Bean mentioned it in one of the pressers as well. He said they had a "rebuilding" type of offer on the table for Tkachuk, and that quite frankly they would have taken it. Since Bean was the one who spoke on behalf of the owners, I think it was Treliving who made the choice of going with the results-now offer and not one that might take more time to pan out. But of course, Treliving was probably already planning an exit strategy and wanted instant results rather than setting someone else up in the future.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by TOfan

I think the Flames have a real conundrum on their hands.

I think they do want to keep Andersson, especially if he’s willing to stay. I think the Flames, rightly so, place high value on impactful guys who want to stay.i also think they see Andersson as a pivotal piece to their leadership group.

On the other hand, his value is undeniable. Dealing him would immediately weaken the team and leave a gap that could be very difficult to fill even with several strong, or better, RHD prospects. On a sense he’s a bit like Bouwmeester. The minute you move him the minute you need to find a guy just like him. It could take years to fill that gap.

I think the determining factor here is, what does Rasmus want? A little over a year ago he was being discussed as a candidate to wear the C. On the other hand we’ve heard he wants to win.

I think this is right at the top of the list for interesting Flames stories this year. That and how do the young players/prospects develop.

Fair enough. At 28, Rasmus is also young enough that he could be part of the team when it's back on the rise. And yes, the team has had a rough ride with guys demanding out, so you really do have to show loyalty to an impact player who makes a point of stating he wants to play.

I still think moving Rasmus is the easiest path to getting a #1 centre. A solid #2 d-man is hard to find, but not nearly as hard as a #1 centre. D-men tend to develop later, so those guys can frequently be found on the UFA market. Even Bouwmeester was picked up via trade as he was set to become a UFA. The Flames are very unlikely to see that same scenario play out when they are looking for a #1 centre.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Yup, easy for him to say with hindsight but Conroy also said he would have gone a different route than they did.

He did? I must have missed that.

If he did, that’s pretty clumsy of him. He’s, basically, saying ‘if I had my way Huberdeau and Weegar wouldn’t be here’.

I kinda doubt he came out and said that publicly, even if he believes it. Which I don’t doubt.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Bean mentioned it in one of the pressers as well. He said they had a "rebuilding" type of offer on the table for Tkachuk, and that quite frankly they would have taken it. Since Bean was the one who spoke on behalf of the owners, I think it was Treliving who made the choice of going with the results-now offer and not one that might take more time to pan out. But of course, Treliving was probably already planning an exit strategy and wanted instant results rather than setting someone else up in the future.

I'd be shocked if the owners were prepared to take a rebuilding offer.

[CliffFletcher]

I don’t recall Conroy saying he would have a gone a different route.

I know fans like to hang everything on Treliving now that he’s gone. But these big strategic decisions are made collectively. From the comments of Conroy and Bean, in the wake of Gaudreau leaving and Tkachuk announcing his intentions, the braintrust of the team - so Treliving, Edwards, Conroy, Bean, Maloney, Nonis - considered the rebuild route, and then decided against it.

[Tbull8]

All of the talk from Conroy as well as insiders on this forum is that Treliving tended to do what he wanted rather than consult with the rest of his team.

[Tbull8]

Weekes hinting at 11.5M for a new york player. Guessing that's a Shesterkin extension incoming?

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

All of the talk from Conroy as well as insiders on this forum is that Treliving tended to do what he wanted rather than consult with the rest of his team.

I don’t think that’s accurate. Otherwise, what exactly were Maloney, Conroy, Snow , Pascal, etc doing?

Also, this flys in the face of what was a very popular belief among many that it wasn’t Treliving who hired Sutter, it was Edwards/the owners. Remember when Treliving brought in guys like Gudbransson? A lot of people thought that was a move at Sutter’s request and I’d bet Sutter had some influence/say on Toffoli as well.

Over the course of his years, I’d bet Treliving absolutely took advice from Snow, Conroy, etc.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I don’t recall Conroy saying he would have a gone a different route.

I know fans like to hang everything on Treliving now that he’s gone. But these big strategic decisions are made collectively. From the comments of Conroy and Bean, in the wake of Gaudreau leaving and Tkachuk announcing his intentions, the braintrust of the team - so Treliving, Edwards, Conroy, Bean, Maloney, Nonis - considered the rebuild route, and then decided against it.

It was a comment from when he was discussing Gaudreau walking for free and how he would have handled it differently. I definitely read into it a bit but I have a hard time believing that Kadri, Huberdeau, and Weegar would be on the Flames when combined with his statement on fair contracts for age appropriate players.

[Tbull8]

Ya I'm sure its a mix of listening to your team and doing what you believe is best. Maybe for treliving that was a 40/60 split and Conroy is more 60/40. Of course they listen to the people around them, but Conroy seems to have made a couple comments about how Brad did stuff differently than him. I can't remember who alluded to it here, but there some chatter this summer about how Conroy and Iginla are potentially the best guys to convince ownership that a rebuild is necessary

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Weekes hinting at 11.5M for a new york player. Guessing that's a Shesterkin extension incoming?

That’s a crazy AAV for a goaltender but I guess he has leverage here. Anyway, until it’s done it’s not done. Weekes has been wrong a lot before. I think Friedman and stuff post when it’s 99.9% done and Weekes does when it’s 90%. But things can fall apart.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Shesterkin is the best goalie in the world and their most important player. I don’t think it’s unreasonable at all

[Saqe]

Don't pay a goalie. So many examples from DiPietro, to Price to Bob. It's not worth it longterm.

[HitterD]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Don't pay a goalie. So many examples from DiPietro, to Price to Bob. It's not worth it longterm.

I dunno, I think i'd pay Bob $10 million for the next 50 years if it won me a cup.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by HitterD

I dunno, I think i'd pay Bob $10 million for the next 50 years if it won me a cup.

Not to mention the Panteros are once again leading their division with Bob playing the majority, and then add on his deal is only 1 more year after this one....yeah i'd gladly pay him that as well.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by jayswin

How does that work? Your employer found out you were spreading inside info and told you to stop, but now decided they're okay with having info leaked online and gave you the green light?

Simple, I'm no longer restricted by those agreements. Regardless if they're okay with it or not. They can't prevent it or hold me liable for it.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

Actually, it was me. You're welcome Sec.

Best carpet guy in the city.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Sorry if you were fired SEC.

No I've actually been moved into a 10x better situation.