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Old 11-03-2024, 08:42 AM   #381
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Glowing profile of Martone in yesterday’s Athletic:
Top 3 pick no question. Guarantee he’s a Hawk with that kind of profile.
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Think he could step in and score 30 next year as a 19 year old rookie
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Top 3 pick no question. Guarantee he’s a Hawk with that kind of profile.
Sharks would love to add a wing like that for Smith/Celebrini too.
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Joshua Ravensbergen is an interesting draft eligible prospect. He's 6'6" and has a career 34-5-5 record in the NHL. But his save percentage is just fine, as is his GAA. For very large goalies, I think health/durability is a factor that has to be taken into consideration.
Really rooting for this kid. My son played with him till Pee-Wee. Blue Collar family that’s did not have the resources to get him all the extra coaching and training, that most of us crazy hockey parents shelled out for.

If you’re into prospects, go down the rabbit hole of looking into his Jr career.
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Upside Hockey's 2025 NHL Draft Rankings:
November Edition via our@SubstackInc eNewsletter/post:

Top 96 ranked with ~350 prospects included along with NHL Central Scouting prospects of interest (2nd column).

https://upsidehockey.substack.com/p/...t-rankings-ad3
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Nov.3rd Draft Musings:

-After another 3-point game tonight, C Carter Bear has to be ascending the draft charts. He is now 2nd in WHL scoring, 2nd in goals, and 5th in plus/minus with 16gp/14g/13a/27pts,+16, 14 PIM. Bear is a six-footer who needs work on his boots, but he's ultra skilled and smart, plays hard-nosed and gritty in the tough areas, owns an NHL shot, and pays attention to his defensive responsibilities.

-Rough and tumble Kashawn Aitcheson, a 6'1", 198lb LHD (and a favorite of mine), has only 8 points in 12 games (22 PIM) for Barrie of the OHL. He's the Tasmanian Devil on ice, hitting everything that moves.

-Diminutive sparkplug, RW Cameron Schmidt, who measures 5'7",and 157lbs, is tied for 3rd in WHL scoring (first in goals) with 15gp/17g/9a/26pts,+8, 10 PIM. He is fun to watch, as he might just be the fastest player in the draft, and can dirty dangle through defenders, making them look silly. Despite his size, he's a feisty player, and doesn't stay on the perimeter at all.

-LW Nathan Behm has only 1 point in his last 2 games, after posting 10 in his previous 2, and as a result, he has slipped to 11th in WHL scoring with 14gp/12g/11a/23pts,+7, 10 PIM. Still nothing to sniff at for a first-time draft-eligible, and he's 6th in goal-scoring.

-After 5 points in his last 4 games, 6'3",190lb LHD Jackson Smith has sneakily crept into 10th in scoring by defense in the WHL, with 14gp/1g/13a/14pts,+9, 18 PIM. He is one of my favorite D for this draft, and has already shown the ability to play the role of a shutdown D with his superb skating, sneaky skill, and physicality. If he can keep putting up offense, he may go top-10. This kid is a beaut.

-In second place for first-time draft-eligible D in the WHL is lefty Will Sharpe, whom Lethbridge drafted 11th-overall in 2022. He is tied for 15th in D scoring, with 13gp/2g/10a/12pts,+4, 10 PIM, and has grown in the last year- going from 5'11", to 6'1" and 195lbs. He plays a sound two-way game, and does everything well, albeit perhaps not at an elite level.

-RW Porter Martone still sits atop the OHL scoring race, and second in goals, with 14gp/16g/16a/32pts,+10, 21 PIM.

-C/LW Michael Misa is third in OHL scoring, and first in goals with 15gp/18g/10a/28pts,+10, 6 PIM. Prior to this year, he was known primarily as a playmaker, but I guess he decided he would be a goal-scorer this year.

-LHD Cameron Reid is doing fairly well in filling in for Hunter Brzustewicz in Kitchener, putting up 16gp/4g/15a/19pts,+6, 14 PIM, on pace for 81 points in 68 games. Though he's only a six-footer, he makes an impact in all 3 zones, and has great 4-way mobility. Reid was drafted 10th-overall by Kitchener in 2023.

-Speaking of Hunter Brzustewicz, his bigger little brother Henry (6'2",190lbs) sits tied for 15th in D scoring for the OHL, with 13gp/0g/10a/10pts,+3, 12 PIM for the London Knights.

-After amassing 12 points in his last 5 games, LHC Caleb Desnoyers has stormed into 11th place in QMJHL scoring (7th in ppg with 1.69), with 13gp/11g/11a/22pts,+18, 4 PIM. He is second in plus/minus in the Q, a bit of a testament to his sterling two-way play. Desnoyers is sure to be a riser, as he is everything one would want in a center- size, skating, skill, and details-oriented defensive commitment that reminds me somewhat of Patrice Bergeron.

-RW Justin Carbonneau (6'2",190lbs) is 7th in Q scoring, with 16gp/8g/16a/24pts,+2, 16 PIM. Carbs is a skilled offensive player with speed and exceptional vision, but he needs better defensive play and could stand to use his body more consistently- though he can throw some huge hits. Also working against him is his Nov. 25th, 2006 birthday.

-LW Bill Zonnon, a 6'2" power-forward with skill and all-around smarts, is tied for 11th in scoring with 17gp/7g/15a/22pts,+10, 8 PIM. He exhibits an enormous workrate, and a robust physical game, but needs some refinement on his skating.

-After 4 disappointing games in the USHL, LW Zachary Morin is back in the Q, putting up 11gp/3g/9a/12pts,+5, 0 PIM. This 6'1",190lb winger is a nightmare on the forecheck, works and skates incredibly hard, and has sneaky playmaking abilities.

-C Nathan Quinn (5'11",161lbs) might not make it into the first round of the draft, but I would bet he's chosen before the third round starts. He's not really exceptional in any way, but is already known as a reliable defensive presence with smarts, faceoff acumen, and excellent playmaking ability, and is 18th in Q scoring, with 18gp/6g/14a/20pts,even, 4 PIM, on a rather poor Quebec Remparts squad. He's quite young, with an August. 29th birthday.

-Not sure what's going on with LW Emile Guite', with only 8 points in 16 games for Chicoutimi. Perhaps he's buried somewhat on a pretty talent-laden squad? Shooting is his main forte', but he's no slouch in the playmaking department, and is blessed with size (6'1"), skating, and skill. Some say he's still doing all the right things, playing well in both ends of the ice, throwing his body around, and working hard- it's just a matter of time.

-Guite's teammate, RHD Alex Huang, is also struggling offensively, with only 8 points in 17 games. Many had him ranked in the second round at the beginning of the season, with the potential of moving into the first. After 36 points in 61 games last season, I would expect him to be hovering around a ppg. Huang is only 6'0",170lbs, but skates like a fart in a windstorm, has a bomb from the point, and exhibits high IQ- when he's on.

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Old 11-04-2024, 07:45 AM   #387
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I mean, we HAVE to get Bear, no?

“What a save by Wolf!”

“What a goal by Bear!”

We’ll call it the Calgary Zoo
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Old 11-04-2024, 10:39 AM   #388
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I mean, we HAVE to get Bear, no?

“What a save by Wolf!”

“What a goal by Bear!”

We’ll call it the Calgary Zoo
If only Adam Fox wasn't such a dip ####.

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Ryabkin confirms he is not coming to the USHL this season. Also seems to respond maturely to the Russian U20 coach calling him overweight.

https://rg.org/news/hockey/top-nhl-d...-excess-weight
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Scott Wheeler's top 64 for the 2025 draft. Paywall
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/588...urce=twitterhq

His first three tiers:

Tier 1:
Hagens

Tier 2:
Martone
Schaefer
Misa
Frondell
McQueen

Tier 3:
Ryabkin
Hensler
Spence
Desnoyers
Eklund
Reschny
Smith
Moore
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If we end up drafting Tier 3 and get Ryabkin or Desnoyers I won't be upset. They can easily be argued for being tier 2 imo
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Scott Wheeler's top 64 for the 2025 draft. Paywall
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/588...urce=twitterhq

His first three tiers:

Tier 1:
Hagens

Tier 2:
Martone
Schaefer
Misa
Frondell
McQueen


Tier 3:
Ryabkin
Hensler
Spence
Desnoyers
Eklund
Reschny
Smith
Moore

Centres bolded
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Only 3d in those tiers
That’s why it was critical to get a D last draft
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Anyone know what the stipulations are on our first round pick this year? Been wondering for the last little bit here since we're not as brutal as most were thinking. Does MTL just get the lowest of the picks or would they end up getting our pick if it's outside the top 10?
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Anyone know what the stipulations are on our first round pick this year? Been wondering for the last little bit here since we're not as brutal as most were thinking. Does MTL just get the lowest of the picks or would they end up getting our pick if it's outside the top 10?
Someone can correct me if I am wrong...

The Habs get the higher of the Florida and Flames 2025 1st rounders.

However, the 2025 1st rounders are top 10 protected. So if either is in the top 10, Montreal gets the other 1st rounder. So in the likely event that Flames pick is top 10 and Florida's isn't, Montreal will get the Florida pick.

If both the Florida and Flames picks are top 10, the Montreal gets the Flames 2026 1st rounder with no protection. This is very unlikely.
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Someone can correct me if I am wrong...

The Habs get the higher of the Florida and Flames 2025 1st rounders.

However, the 2025 1st rounders are top 10 protected. So if either is in the top 10, Montreal gets the other 1st rounder. So in the likely event that Flames pick is top 10 and Florida's isn't, Montreal will get the Florida pick.

If both the Florida and Flames picks are top 10, the Montreal gets the Flames 2026 1st rounder with no protection. This is very unlikely.

Me, every time I see an answer to this:





Although I think I finally kind of get it now with your answer.
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Me, every time I see an answer to this:





Although I think I finally kind of get it now with your answer.
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Conditions

(A) if Panthers 2025 first transfers to Flames then
(1) if both Flames and Panthers 2025 firsts are not in top 10 then Canadiens receive more favorable of Flames, Panthers picks;
or
(2) if Flames 2025 first is in top 10 and Panthers 2025 first is not in top 10 then Canadiens receive Panthers 2025 first;


(B) if Panthers 2025 first does not transfer to Flames then
(1) if Flames 2025 first is #1 overall then Canadiens receive Flames 2025 third and more favorable of Flames, Panthers 2026 firsts;
or
(2) if Flames 2025 first is #2-10 then Canadiens receive Flames 2025 first;
or
(3) if Flames 2025 first is not in top 10 then Canadiens receive Flames 2025 first and
(a) if Panthers 2025 first is not in top 10 and (b) Panthers 2025 first has been transferred to another team and (c) Panthers 2025 first is more favorable than Flames then Canadiens receive Flames 2025 fourth)

(A) happens as long as Florida doesn't pick top 10 because the pick was top 10 protected in the Tkachuk trade

(B) happens if Florida picks top 10 which is unlikely to occur it seem right now.


Worst case scenario for (A) would be for the Flames 1st to pick just outside the top 10 and Panthers late 1st round, because that means the Flames would transfer their 1st to Montreal

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please sticky that to the first page of this thread.
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Flames will probably draft twice in round 1 at this draft, both in the 20's with Florida's pick and NJs pick. The Flames pick will end up in the low teens and go to Montreal. Ouch
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