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Old 11-01-2024, 10:12 AM   #21581
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We could always Nuke Red Deer from Orbit.

Its the only way to be sure and, lets be honest, would anyone really notice?

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Old 11-01-2024, 10:33 AM   #21582
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Sorry I don't understand?
I think he’s saying he wants it to go back to the way it was. In which case the planets must be aligning bizarrely because pepper and I don’t often agree on something.
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Old 11-01-2024, 10:40 AM   #21583
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I know of a few similar stories like that, and one of regret where the person wished they hadn't done it at a young age.

I also know of a few young people in this area of concern, and while I try to be as supportive as possible, the ones I know are too easily influenced by social media and internet peers to make an informed decision to a life changing choice. I think the proposed age restrictions are appropriate and not unreasonable.
Imagine if doctors and psychologists decided this based medical research and patient-specific considerations instead of the government.

Sounds pretty reasonable.
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Old 11-01-2024, 11:15 AM   #21584
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She's open with her struggles to transition. She knew she was different before age 10 and had confusing teenage years then made the decision in her 20's to transition after being married and still married to the same woman. She said that it would have been a mistake to do it in her teens even though it was a tough time for her. She wouldn't be at the press conference if she wasn't ok with the polices.
Of course, that's the exact red herring they want us to focus on though. Nobody is transitioning as a teenager.
But they might be using puberty blockers, which this policy attacks. Puberty blockers are meant not to transition, but to buy time so that your body doesn't have irreversible changes to a man or woman while you are maturing and figuring out your identity.
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Old 11-01-2024, 11:16 AM   #21585
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I only know one trans person (born a man and now a woman) and she was part of the committee to decide on these policies and was on the podium behind Smith during the press conference yesterday. I've only known her as a woman after she transitioned. They had other trans people involved as well so that community was thoroughly consulted.

She's open with her struggles to transition. She knew she was different before age 10 and had confusing teenage years then made the decision in her 20's to transition after being married and still married to the same woman. She said that it would have been a mistake to do it in her teens even though it was a tough time for her. She wouldn't be at the press conference if she wasn't ok with the polices.
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I know of a few similar stories like that, and one of regret where the person wished they hadn't done it at a young age.

I also know of a few young people in this area of concern, and while I try to be as supportive as possible, the ones I know are too easily influenced by social media and internet peers to make an informed decision to a life changing choice. I think the proposed age restrictions are appropriate and not unreasonable.
You know what treatment buys time for young people so that their bodies don't change in a way that they might not be happy with later? The puberty blockers that the UCP is restricting.

This is not helping young people avoid life altering decisions, it's forcing them to start puberty as the gender they were born and it's evil AF.

And if you want to ban women who have undergone male puberty from women's sports, puberty blockers are again a possible solution.

Said it before and I'll say it again. If you want to buy young people time to mature before they decide what to do with their bodies you should be all in on puberty blockers, not restricting them.

And IMHO sex ed should be straight up mandatory. Not opt-in, not even opt-out. Mandatory. In the public system, private schools, charter schools, religious system, and homeschool systems.

F the UCP.
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Old 11-01-2024, 11:28 AM   #21586
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Usually the best way to ensure young people don’t make life altering decisions too young is to just to take the decision away from them and their doctors so that they’re stuck with the decision the government made for them until it’s more difficult to make any other decision.

Big brain stuff by the freedom fighters.
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Old 11-01-2024, 11:33 AM   #21587
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In case anyone isn't clear.

Puberty blockers aren't hormone replacement therapy. They're not gender-affirming. They're hormone blockers. Gender neutralizing. They keep the patient a blank canvas so they can go through whatever puberty they want later.
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Of course, that's the exact red herring they want us to focus on though. Nobody is transitioning as a teenager.
But they might be using puberty blockers, which this policy attacks. Puberty blockers are meant not to transition, but to buy time so that your body doesn't have irreversible changes to a man or woman while you are maturing and figuring out your identity.
No problem, they will still allow kids to use puberty blockers once they've turned 16... I'm sure we all remember celebrating our 16th birthdays knowing that we would be starting puberty soon.
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It blows my mind that of all the problems Alberta has, and the world is going through, THIS is what a provincial government is ramming through, and what conservative leadership won't stop moistly breathing on everyone else (Rustad, Moe, Higgs).

This is like some dystopian alternate universe.
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It blows my mind that of all the problems Alberta has, and the world is going through, THIS is what a provincial government is ramming through, and what conservative leadership won't stop moistly breathing on everyone else (Rustad, Moe, Higgs).

This is like some dystopian alternate universe.
They just start this culture war crap to distract people from their dismantling of health care, public education, and parks.
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Conservatives on this board - can someone explain to me why this deplorable regime feels the need to interject themselves between a youth and their family when it comes to pronouns, transitioning, etc.? Why does a government who champions 'limited government' in people's lives feel the need to waste time pouring resources into spying into random people's bedrooms and bathrooms? Why is this a priority?
Good luck trying to find any in this thread. It's been conservative free since Yoho got banned.

Even the rightest of wings can't defend this UCP kyitshow.
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Google the person’s name and see their role is on the ownership and executive team of a private junior producer that received $625,000 in SRP funding and have been part of the RStar lobby among other things. Financial gain for being a pinkwashing mascot.
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Old 11-01-2024, 01:10 PM   #21593
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There’s no defending the UCP, so there’s no point talking about it.
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It has always been an option for parents to opt-out their kids for sex education. By changing it to an opt-in program, that means that every kid that is too lazy, or too ADHD, or simply wants to give themselves a spare, are going to not get their parents to sign a waiver. Teenage pregnancy and STD transmission are about to go way up.
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No worries. This is a homeopathic approach; getting kids a little pregnant and a little taste of gonorrhea early in life will strengthen their natural immunity to these disorders.
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It was a Trudeau (old Pierre) who said government doesn’t belong in our bedrooms so , of course, the UCP has to get in there.
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We could always Nuke Red Deer from Orbit.

Its the only way to be sure and, lets be honest, would anyone really notice?

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Wait, you are telling me that Red Deer hasnt been nuked already? it just looks that way, by choice?
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Old 11-01-2024, 03:47 PM   #21597
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Wait, you are telling me that Red Deer hasnt been nuked already? it just looks that way, by choice?
Especially anything named Bower in it.... lol
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Old 11-01-2024, 08:59 PM   #21598
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And IMHO sex ed should be straight up mandatory. Not opt-in, not even opt-out. Mandatory. In the public system, private schools, charter schools, religious system, and homeschool systems.

F the UCP.
Agreed. The children who need sex ed at school the most are the ones whose parents were already opting out. Now they want those who forget or can't be bothered to also miss out.

I guess keeping if no one learns about sex then it's easier to make the argument that puberty blockers started in adulthood is a good idea?
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UCP: there are only two genders and that's the way it is!

Kids: can we learn more about that?

UCP: don't ask questions your parents don't approve of.
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Again, if anyone thinks that conservatives are champions of small government, you are a complete idiot.
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