WWE Superstar Chris Benoit & Family Found Dead

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

He was giving HGH to his 7 year old kid.

It is sounding more and more like he has been on the edge for a while.

I understand that this is what these wrestlers feel they need to do to "make it", but when so many wrestlers seem to be dying the the primes of their lives, I wonder why it is worth it?

Sounds like his son from rough reports had a condition called fragile x syndrom which is a form of mild ######ation which also leads to being undersized. Doctors do give HGH in those cases.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Sounds like his son from rough reports had a condition called fragile x syndrom which is a form of mild ######ation which also leads to being undersized. Doctors do give HGH in those cases.

Ah. That is different than what I've seen, but would make it more reasonable.

He gave it to his kid because his kid was too small.
then
His kids was as small as a dwarf so he was giving him HGH.
then
He gave his kid HGH because of dwarfism.

[Cowperson]

An ex-WWE wife blows the lid off rampant drugs and domestic violence among the WWE set!!! She says she's violating a confidentiality agreement out of guilt that had she spoken out earlier, her friend might still be alive!!!

http://www.myfoxcolorado.com/myfox/p...Y&pageId=1.1.1

Cowperson

[The Unabomber]

The WWE needs to be held responsible to an extent, people are saying that they teast for steroids.......come on, look at some of the people they have running around the ring. The steroids might not be to blame entirely but i'm sure that they played a part.

Too bad they will fill Benoits role on the show with some guy that is taking roids. Anyone see the wrestler that went from the WWE to MMA recently? Can't remember his name but the guy looked like a shadow of his former self after leaving wrestling, and they test for steroids?

[CMPunk]

Originally Posted by The Unabomber

The WWE needs to be held responsible to an extent, people are saying that they teast for steroids.......come on, look at some of the people they have running around the ring. The steroids might not be to blame entirely but i'm sure that they played a part.

Too bad they will fill Benoits role on the show with some guy that is taking roids. Anyone see the wrestler that went from the WWE to MMA recently? Can't remember his name but the guy looked like a shadow of his former self after leaving wrestling, and they test for steroids?

Brock Lesner

[icecube]

In fairness to Brock Lesnar, the weight limit is 285 and he was forced to trim weight. Yes I'm sure he probably was on roids look at the guy.

[Cowperson]

It looks like the WWE tests for steroids to make sure you're taking them.

Cowperson

[Ozy_Flame]

Cowperson, to be fair, most "smart" wrestling fans (or "smarks" as per the industry term) know that the WWE can't, and isn't, taken seriously as a place for good wrestling.

I'm a fan of the product, not the show. I and many others that are subject to WWE programming are far bigger fans of Ring of Honor, New Japan, All Japan, NOAH, Zero-One, CMLL, AAA, and to some extent, TNA. The problem is that unless you order specialty channels, you're not going to get these shows on a regular basis.

The WWE has it's share of decent talent, but they are few and far between. In addition, most smarks just look beyond the crappy storylines and the soap opera dramatics and try to pay attention to REALLY GOOD wrestling matches, which the WWE is capable of. For example, John Cena and Shawn Michaels had an epic one-hour classic back in April which is definitely a match-of-the-year contender by industry standards.

Believe it or not, the Chris Benoit tribute show on Monday had an old NJPW G1 Climax Tournament Final between Pegasus Kid (Chris Benoit) and Jyushin Liger, two of the best in the business. If you or anyone got a didn't get a chance to watch that, I highly suggest you find it on Youtube or elsewhere, as wrestling is far more an art, sport, and serious institution than some people give it credit for. Anyone who has watched, or even been to a Japanese, Mexican, or Indy wrestling event should know this.

[J pold]

The world would be a better place if the WWE and everything to do with it just went away forever

[The Unabomber]

Originally Posted by J pold

The world would be a better place if the WWE and everything to do with it just went away forever

Agreed. It's pointless entertainment the way they are running it.

[flames_1987]

Even though growing up killed the buzz of wrestling, it had a ton to do with the product too. I put wrestling fans right up there with Nascar fans. I could see how some people might find wrestling exciting, as Ozy said, more the product then the show.

Although it will never go away, I do hope that somehow they can at least stop making movies with any of these wrestlers. Some of the worst movies ever made

[Barnes]

Dino Bravo was whacked by the mob in his home in Montreal.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by flames_1987

Even though growing up killed the buzz of wrestling, it had a ton to do with the product too. I put wrestling fans right up there with Nascar fans. I could see how some people might find wrestling exciting, as Ozy said, more the product then the show.

Although it will never go away, I do hope that somehow they can at least stop making movies with any of these wrestlers. Some of the worst movies ever made

I don't know the Rock has done some pretty good things.

"They Live" with Roddy Piper was a decent piece of fluff.

Of course the only good movie role that Hulk Hogan ever had was in Rockey II, and that lead to his firing by the now out of business AWA.

[Mr.Slippery]

I thought Brock Lesnar was wrestling in Japan. I know Sean O'Haire was doing some type of MMA, my guess is thats who your thinking about.

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by Mr.Slippery

I thought Brock Lesnar was wrestling in Japan. I know Sean O'Haire was doing some type of MMA, my guess is thats who your thinking about.

Brock signed up with K1 to fight MMA.

[flambers]

Personally I am not a fan of Wrestling, I use to watch it as a kid but WWE is a Billion dollar business and I can not see it going away any time soon.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by flambers

Personally I am not a fan of Wrestling, I use to watch it as a kid but WWE is a Billion dollar business and I can not see it going away any time soon.

Absolutely not. It is one of the highest rated shows on all of the USA Network, CW Network, and Sci-Fi, and most international station carriers. 20 million people watch WWE worldwide.

Even if the industry is suffering from within, the WWE is not just a wrestling company, but an international, publicly-traded corporation.

[Burninator]

How do the product and the show not go hand in hand?

I think we can all agree that the wrestling and the plot are both fabricated. Obviously the plot is a scripted story line, no one is disputing that. And everyone knows the outcome of the fight is predetermined. But I don't get this "watch it for the amazing wrestling" and the "great matches" talk. It's just as much as a show as the wrestles yelling at each other in between fights. If you put two people in a ring to duke it out, in no way would the fight look like a WWE match. Climbing up on the turn buckle and landing on your opponent with your head is hardly an effective way of fighting. The UFC is how fighting really looks.

Don't get me wrong. I think those wrestles can do some amazing things, and especially some pretty interest acrobatics. But they pretend to get hurt, they are way too slow to get up, the ref always get knocked out, they do ridiculous moves that would never work in real life, etc. It's just as much a contrived drama as the story line.

[The Unabomber]

Originally Posted by CMPunk

Brock Lesner

That's the guy. If you look at pictures of him when he was wrestling in college, then look at him in the WWE, and again when he just fought his first MMA fight in California, it's disgusting. Look at Batista, that guy isn't on roids....

These guys live a brutal life, on the road doing the same thing for 300-340 days a year, they get hurt and the organization doesn't help them financially at all. Everyone talks about baseball and football being bad for steroid use, we here Dick Pound slamming the NHL for drug use. I would like to see some sort of stat that shows how many kids watch WWE, these kids get influenced by these "entertainers" and see how big they are, they want to be like them. Eyes should be turned to this mockery and something should be done, won't hold my breath though.

[fredr123]

Originally Posted by Burninator

Climbing up on the turn buckle and landing on your opponent with your head is hardly an effective way of fighting. The UFC is how fighting really looks.

Real fights probably involve less cuddling on the ground and more kicks to the junk.