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Old 06-26-2007, 08:20 PM   #201
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Im posting an excerpt containing the messages because it wouldnt surprise me if they are off the WWE site in the future.

Early Sunday morning, between 3:51 and 3:58 a.m., Benoit sent five text messages to co-workers:

Text Message 1 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:53am)- Chris Benoit’s cell phone
“My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane, Fayetteville Georgia. 30215”
Text Message 2 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:53am)- Chris Benoit’s cell phone
“The dogs are in the enclosed pool area. Garage side door is open”
Text Message 3 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:54am)- Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
“My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane.
Fayetteville Georgia. 30215”
Text Message 4 to two co-workers (sent 6/24 at 3:55am)- Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
“My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane.
Fayetteville Georgia. 30215"
Text Message 5 to one co-worker (sent 6/24 at 3:58am)- Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
“My address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215"
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:21 PM   #202
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Those messages are somewhat eery when you put them in the context of the events that happened.

I wonder if Benoit wanted help in a spiritual/emotional sense or if he wanted physical help such as cleaning up the crime scene or disposing of the bodies.
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:23 PM   #203
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And the fact that he used 2 different cell phones to basically type out the same message multiple times is just weird.

And this tidbit from an article on sportsnet:

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He was joined in the ring by his longtime friend Eddie Guerrero, a champion in another category, who held up his arm, and confetti fell from the rafters. Tragically, Eddie Guerrero, who battled drugs and alcohol, died in the fall of 2005. Although he had kicked his substance abuse habit, it is believed his body gave out.

Benoit was crushed by his buddy’s death and, according to Joe Peisich, a longtime wrestling authority, bemoaned it as recently as a week ago, saying to fellow wrestlers that one of them needed to be with Guerrero."

http://www2.sportsnet.ca/blogs/perry...range_and_sad/

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Old 06-26-2007, 09:12 PM   #204
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The video in that clip of Bret Hart talking is quite sad, but it is good to see Bret looking healthy after his stroke a couple of years back.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:24 PM   #205
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Looking back on it now I kind of always thought Benoit looked a little screwed in the head but thought it was just his high risk ringstyle taking a tole on his body like somebody like Sabu.

I'm still in shock with this. Murder-suicide was something that did actually cross my mind but with hearing how much of a great guy he was and a family man I really didnt take it that serious. I thought either it was carbon monoxide posioning or that with his status as a professional wrestler they were murdered by some looney wanting to get attention.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:29 PM   #206
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Weirder and weirder...

This guy must have had some SERIOUS demons. I just cannot comprehend ANYONE killing any member of their family.

As evidenced by my first post in this thread, I was a fan of his in his early days, when I still watched wrestling. I was an enormous fan of The Dynamite Kid, so naturally, it followed that I would be a fan of Benoit, same style of wrestler. I met him on a few occasions and he was very cordial and like I said, always had time for his fans. Obviously, that means nothing now, in light of this horrible incident. There's public personas and then there's what goes on behind closed doors. This guy was clearly a creep with some very serious mental issues that were never dealt with properly, but was always able to put on a good face in public...Not unlike many people who've killed.

Just another in a long line of celebrities that at the end of the day, turn out to be nothing but another flawed human being. We're all flawed to a degree, I think, but this is another level of F'd up altogether. I could never conceive of killing my wife or my daughters...I would step in front of 1000 bullets or 1000 buses if it meant they could live. Hell, I can't even conceive of killing my ex-wife, which is saying something, as most people with an ex can probably relate to.

It would appear that Chris Benoit, despite all his fame and fortune, is just another murderer at the end of it all.

This is still sad for me, just in a different way now that I know some of the details.
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Old 06-26-2007, 10:34 PM   #207
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Its starting to form a picture of a man who was either severly depressed, or obssessive compulsive. While this seemed like a deliberate act, was it really a planned event.

I'm not trying to justify Benoits event, but everything that you saw in his public persona probably points to a disturbed individual.

He had to be perfect in the ring, on the tribute show they talked about his obsession with the business, and honoring it to the point of making a kid do 1000 thrusts because he showed disrespect. His kid was always in a suit. He was quiet and shy, and the wrestlers even said he didn't talk a lot in the locker room. With idividuals like that it dosen't take much for them to see thier lives falling into disarray and they go to extremes to control it.

I don't know, maybe Eddie's death was the first thing that started to trigger this tragic state of affairs. Maybe his wife threatened him with divorce.

Its terrible that a life of striving to be the best in what you do is erased with what I think was a fairly impulsive act.

Again this post is not a justification of his actions.

The repeated messages, and the fact that the door was left open and the dogs were fed before he killed himself says a lot about his state of mind.

If it was untreated mental illness, the demons that he was fighting are powerful and its a fight that nobody wins.

What a tragic ending, and what a waste.
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Just a thought that this guy is a POS and no one should defend him. I think my previous post was in poor taste.. so i'll edit it and just put this.

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Just a thought that this guy is a POS and no one should defend him. I think my previous post was in poor taste.. so i'll edit it and just put this.
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Old 06-26-2007, 11:12 PM   #210
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Just a thought that this guy is a POS and no one should defend him. I think my previous post was in poor taste.. so i'll edit it and just put this.
Here's your previous post.

"About as remorseless as bounding and killing your wife, then killing your child and putting bibles by their side."

"How anyone can continue to defend this POS is beyond me. (Not saying you are, it is a seperate thought)"

Nothing to be ashamed of.

It's the truth.
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Here's your previous post.

"About as remorseless as bounding and killing your wife, then killing your child and putting bibles by their side."

"How anyone can continue to defend this POS is beyond me. (Not saying you are, it is a seperate thought)"

Nothing to be ashamed of.

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That was what I was responding to.
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Old 06-26-2007, 11:47 PM   #212
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I wouldn't say I'm defending him, because what he did is beyond brutal, but to me ,it seems like there was something else going on. Maybe mental illness, maybe there's something the police aren't saying, maybe it was steroids. I just can't imagine a man with all his faculties about him leaving work and going home to kill his family. I guess when you've admired someone for so long, it's tough to imagine them doing something this horrible without some sort of "excuse"
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I wouldn't say I'm defending him, because what he did is beyond brutal, but to me ,it seems like there was something else going on. Maybe mental illness, maybe there's something the police aren't saying, maybe it was steroids. I just can't imagine a man with all his faculties about him leaving work and going home to kill his family. I guess when you've admired someone for so long, it's tough to imagine them doing something this horrible without some sort of "excuse"
I don't doubt that you have to be very mentally unstable to do such an act, its just all you see is memorials to this guy and what he has done for wrestling. While I'm sure he has a lot of trophies etc, the fact of the matter is he killed his wife and kid, and that I fear this fact is being overlooked for the sake of reporting that wrestling lost a premier actor.
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:48 AM   #214
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Lots more stuff is beginning to surface. Apparently in 2003, his wife had filed for divorce, citing cruelty, saying he had thrown and broken furniture, etc and she wanted sole custody of their son. Apparently a report was filed.

Then she changed her tune and I guess they stayed together.

This could easily be roid rage, or depression caused by steroids. And apparently his manager is the same person who managed many of the wrestlers who died young from heart problems caused by steroid use.
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Ravishing Rick Rude — Died at 40 of an apparent heart attack in 1999, a bottle of prescription pills for his bad back at his side. The autopsy report said he died of "mixed medications." Rude was an admitted user of anabolic steroids.

Louis Mucciolo, a.k.a, Louie Spicolli — Died in 1998 at age 27 when he suffocated on his own vomit after ingesting massive amounts of Soma and alcohol. Investigators also found an empty vial of testosterone, pain pills and an anti-anxiety drug at the scene.

Brian Pillman — An admitted user of steroids, he died of a heart attack at age 35 in 1997 on the morning of WWF's In Your House: Badd Blood pay-per-view event.

Rick "the Renegade" Williams — Died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at age 33 after being released from his World Championship Wrestling contract in 1999.

"Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig — Found dead of a cocaine overdose at age 44 in his motel room on April 10, 2003, the morning of a match. Hennig's father maintained that steroids and painkillers contributed to his death.

Rodney "Yokozuna" Anoa'i — Died of a heart attack in 2002 at 34.

Davey Boy Smith, "The British Bulldog" — Died of a heart attack at age 39 on May 17, 2002. An autopsy report indicated that past steroid use had likely played a part in his death.

Michael "Road Warrior Hawk" Hegstrand — An admitted steroid user, he died of a heart attack at age 46 in 2003.

Michael Lockwood, "Crash Holly" — In 2003, at the age of 32, he choked to death on his own vomit after ingesting 90 painkiller pills.

Jerry Tuite, "The Wall" a.k.a. "Malice" — Died at age 36 in 2003 of an apparent heart attack in his hotel room.

Raymond "Hercules" Hernandez — Dead of heart failure in 2004 at age 47.

Ray "The Big Boss Man" Traylor — Found dead of a heart attack in 2004 at age 42.

Eddie Guerrero — After a long battle with painkillers, he was found dead of a heart attack by his nephew in his hotel room at age 38. The first person his nephew reportedly called was Guerrero's best friend, Chris Benoit.

Chris Candido — Died in 2005 at age 33 from a blood clot after breaking his tibia and fibula and dislocating his ankle in a pay-per-view event.

Owen Hart — Fell to his death at age 34 in 1999 when the rigging that was lowering him into the ring malfunctioned.

And then there's the story of the Von Erich wrestling family. Wrestling patriarch Fritz Von Erich, nee Jack Adkisson, had five wrestling sons: Kevin, David, Kerry, Mike and Chris.

David died in a hotel room in Tokyo at the age of 25 in 1984 just as he was embarking on a three-week pro wrestling tour of Japan. The official cause of death was acute enteritis, severe inflammation of the intestines.

Three years later, Mike committed suicide by overdosing on the tranquilizer Placidyl at the age of 23. After David's death, Mike had suffered a series of setbacks including a serious shoulder injury that had left him severely depressed

Devastated by the deaths of his older brothers and frustrated by his own limitations as a wrestler, the youngest and smallest brother, Chris, shot himself to death at the age of 21 in 1991.

Two years later, Kerry, who had battled a long addiction to painkillers, died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at the age of 33, leaving eldest brother Kevin as the only survivor of the sport that had defined his family.

- taken from FOX

Never realized how many wrestling deaths there have been. Wow.
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Beleive me, there are far more than that. That list only lists popular wrestlers, and well known ones.

Just recently, one of the most underrated performers in the world hung himself - the incomperable Mike Awesome commited suicide.

That list has about 50% of wrestling deaths. There are more, and you can find them on the 'net.
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Old 06-27-2007, 07:34 AM   #217
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Earlier in this thread I stated that Chris was a great guy, this was before the details came out of what he did. I still say that I respect him for what he did in the ring, he is still one of the best wrestlers ever to perform, but my opinions of him as a person have changed quite a bit. I am not sure what to totally think yet as this is still very weird in my mind still.
Obviouslly he had mental issues that nobody put together until it was to late, which is sad. This could have had a much better outcome if people could have connected the dots earlier, but this is nobodys fault. As they say hind sight is 20\20. The post earlier about him saying how someone has to go be with Eddie really says something and that should have raised flags everywhere, but who could have seen that he would have killed his family as well.
This is a sad outcome that could have been prevented.
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In the Washington Post this morning . . . .

On Saturday, Benoit called a co-worker to say he had missed a flight and would be late for a wrestling event in Texas, WWE said in a timeline posted Tuesday on its Web site. The co-worker said Benoit sounded tired and groggy and said "I love you," which the co-worker found "out of context," WWE said.

And other things . . .

Benoit received drug deliveries from a Florida business that sold steroids, human growth hormone and testosterone on the Internet, according to the Albany County, N.Y., District Attorney's Office, which is investigating the business, MedXLife.com.

Six people, including two of the pharmacy's owners, have pleaded guilty in the investigation, and 20 more have been arrested, including doctors and pharmacists.

The WWE, based in Stamford, Conn., issued a statement Tuesday saying steroids "were not and could not be related to the cause of death."

Why you guys take the WWE seriously is beyond me.

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Beleive me, there are far more than that. That list only lists popular wrestlers, and well known ones.

Just recently, one of the most underrated performers in the world hung himself - the incomperable Mike Awesome commited suicide.

That list has about 50% of wrestling deaths. There are more, and you can find them on the 'net.
Elizabeth died of a drug overdose.

Sherri Martel just died of a drug induced heart attack

Beef Wellington a well known stampede wrestling personality died of a series of strokes at the age of 39

Bad News Allen died of a heart attack last year.

Lots of deaths
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:52 AM   #220
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He was giving HGH to his 7 year old kid.

It is sounding more and more like he has been on the edge for a while.

I understand that this is what these wrestlers feel they need to do to "make it", but when so many wrestlers seem to be dying the the primes of their lives, I wonder why it is worth it?
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