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[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

On another note, the Trump interview on Rogan now has over 16 million views and rising rapidly. By comparison, the Harris interview on Howard Stern got only 1.6 million views. My optimism for a Harris victory is starting to diminish.

Anyone tuning into Rogan is already in the MAGA cult, so it’s not like that interview is swaying any new or undecided voters towards Trump. Also, I watched some of the highlights (or lowlights) and Trump sounded like an absolute clown and a dumbass. I wouldn’t worry about it. This race is still a coin flip and it’s all about turnout now. If women and young people get out and vote in big numbers in the swing states, Harris wins.

[activeStick]

Harris could still end up on Rogan's podcast based on the report below from Reuters a few days ago. I'm not sure if it would be a good or bad thing. Might be good with so little time left before the election to answer back, so to speak.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/kam...es-2024-10-15/

Oct 14 (Reuters) - Democratic presidential nominee#Kamala Harris#could sit down for an interview with popular podcaster Joe Rogan, whose audience leans heavily towards young men, as she works to shore up support with male voters, sources said on Monday.

Harris campaign officials, in the final stretch of the U.S.#presidential campaign, met with Rogan's team this week but an appearance has not been confirmed yet, said two of the sources, who have knowledge of the matter.

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

On another note, the Trump interview on Rogan now has over 16 million views and rising rapidly. By comparison, the Harris interview on Howard Stern got only 1.6 million views. My optimism for a Harris victory is starting to diminish.

I don’t think those numbers correlate to votes at all. Joe is way more popular worldwide than Howard these days. Also, Trump supporters are far more likely to tune in to hear him speak than Harris supporters are to listen to her. Trump haters are a big part of those numbers too because they want to see the #### show.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Harris could still end up on Rogan's podcast based on the report below from Reuters a few days ago. I'm not sure if it would be a good or bad thing. Might be good with so little time left before the election to answer back, so to speak.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/kam...es-2024-10-15/

No. Rogan is setting her up. When he said he wants her on and wants to talk to her like a human being and get to know her he is just setting the bait. How are you going to diss her and want her on?

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1850254649225257022

Biden without the pressure is fun.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

No. Rogan is setting her up. When he said he wants her on and wants to talk to her like a human being and get to know her he is just setting the bait. How are you going to diss her and want her on?

If she can’t outwit Joe Rogan she probably doesn’t deserve to be president.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Anyone tuning into Rogan is already in the MAGA cult, so it’s not like that interview is swaying any new or undecided voters towards Trump.

Most Rogan listeners are already voting for Trump, but there are undoubtedly quite a number of people who barely pay attention to politics who also listen to Rogan's show. I think Trump endeared himself to many of them, unfortunately. Rogan sat there for 3 hours and licked Trump boots and didn't push back on any of his lies. He sat there and stroked Trump's mushroom on a lot of bull#### like Trump being a victim of "hoaxes", "unfair investigations", and "coordinated media attacks".

Also, I watched some of the highlights (or lowlights) and Trump sounded like an absolute clown and a dumbass. I wouldn’t worry about it.

People like you and I know better than to fall for Trump's facade and fake niceness. But tens of millions of Americans fall for it every day, and my worry is that many undecided voters who pay little to no attention to politics will fall for it.

This race is still a coin flip and it’s all about turnout now. If women and young people get out and vote in big numbers in the swing states, Harris wins.

I'm hoping you are correct. But Trump's Rogan interview undoubtedly increased his chances of winning this election. Harris should VERY seriously considering going on there to talk about her economic plans, explain why her proposals would help the American people, and contrast them to Trump's tax cuts for the rich and new tariffs making things more expensive for the middle class and poor. And of course, talk about Trump's assault on women's reproductive rights. When the border is brought up, she needs to keep mentioning the very strong border bill that Trump blocked.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I can tell you that everyone I know that listens to Rogan is a massive right winger. I’m talking about here in Canada. Anti vaxxers as well.

I can’t imagine its different in the UD

[Coach]

Harris should do Rogan. He has a huge amount of listeners and if you aren't even going to try, then I think that would show worse IMO. The candidates are doing all sorts of podcasts and his is undoubtedly popular with people she needs to try and reach. It's not about talking to Joe Rogan, but it'll be one of the few times you'll have an unfiltered line to that base of people. Joe Rogan is a lot of things but I don't think he has an actual interest in TEARING DOWN Harris in the way that something like FOX is, and not as prepared. He'll ask her questions what he thinks are "tough questions" but he wont interrupt and pounce on her answers. He just doesn't really do much of that and honestly doesn't have much of a capacity to clap back at her. I think he'd be intimated to speak with Harris. Trump is a buffoon and Rogan knows he's a buffoon. But Harris is like, the real deal. If she has the power she can dominate that airwave for a basically unfiltered 3hrs. And if he says no to it after hosting Trump, well frankly he would be a Trump grope risk.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Coach

Harris should do Rogan. He has a huge amount of listeners and if you aren't even going to try, then I think that would show worse IMO. The candidates are doing all sorts of podcasts and his is undoubtedly popular with people she needs to try and reach. It's not about talking to Joe Rogan, but it'll be one of the few times you'll have an unfiltered line to that base of people. Joe Rogan is a lot of things but I don't think he has an actual interest in TEARING DOWN Harris in the way that something like FOX is, and not as prepared. He'll ask her questions what he thinks are "tough questions" but he wont interrupt and pounce on her answers. He just doesn't really do much of that and honestly doesn't have much of a capacity to clap back at her. I think he'd be intimated to speak with Harris. Trump is a buffoon and Rogan knows he's a buffoon. But Harris is like, the real deal. If she has the power she can dominate that airwave for a basically unfiltered 3hrs. And if he says no to it after hosting Trump, well frankly he would be a Trump grope risk.

I agree, she should do the show. Rogan is an idiot and she'd eat him alive.

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1850286055876088120

She makes a great point. I have fallen into the trap of Kamala doing great things everyday and that’s impossible.

It’s just that Donald is such a piece of human trash that we need to rid the world of forever.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Coach

Harris should do Rogan. He has a huge amount of listeners and if you aren't even going to try, then I think that would show worse IMO. The candidates are doing all sorts of podcasts and his is undoubtedly popular with.

Harris did Call Her Daddy which is one of the only podcast bigger than Rogan. She still might do that podcast but I don't think she gains anything out of it. Trump doing Rogan, Theo Von, those creepy Nelk boys pod doesn't move the needle for him either, just another opportunity for his base to felate him

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Call Her Daddy which is one of the only podcast bigger than Rogan.

It is? From what I can tell, it appears to be MUCH smaller than Rogan...

[dino7c]

I don't think a podcast is changing anyones mind on Trump

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

It is? From what I can tell, it appears to be MUCH smaller than Rogan...

You're right? I don't follow podcasts rankings too much. It's still pretty huge and considering the demographics if Harris had to pick one I think Call Her Daddy is the right choice.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormu...ers-listeners/

How Big Is “call Her Daddy”?
“Call Her Daddy” has ranked as Spotify’s second-biggest podcast, only behind Joe Rogan’s “Joe Rogan Experience,” for the past two years. Spotify also says it is the biggest podcast for women on its platform.

Right Wing media personalities have turned long form podcasting into a very effective weapon in recents years. Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, Ben Shapiro, Candance Owens, Charlie Kirk, Matt Walsh, Glenn Beck, Michael Knowles etc just dominate the top of the news and Society & Culture sections.

[Mathgod]

Looking at youtube numbers, JRE has over 17 million subscribers while CHD has just 1 million. Looking at spotify, there appears to be a huge difference in numbers there too.

They just aren't similar in size. JRE has such a larger audience. I think Kamala should go on there.

[Coach]

Why does she have to pick one or the other? I'm not sure the host matters at all TBH, the audience does. Thinking only the pleebs listen to it is not correct and is exactly the line of thinking that doomed Hillary. There are people who might not listen to Rogan much that would only drop in for certain guests, or people that only listen to him and Fox that will either have to sit through it, or turn it off. They won't all turn it off. Do you think if a Trump supporter ACTUALLY listens to Kamala for a while they come out hating her more? I don't. So what's the downside?

"Podcasts" aren't changing anyone's minds. The people that make them and talk on them do. Of course they do. Not sure how it's different from any other talk show.

[dino7c]

Dems need to focus on getting people to the polls...there are more registered democrats, new voters and independents are breaking left.

GET PEOPLE TO THE POLLS

Elections are no longer about policy or even the candidate themselves...its team sports. I wouldn't vote for the Oilers so don't waste your time trying to convince me they are better.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Looking at youtube numbers, JRE has over 17 million subscribers while CHD has just 1 million.

Looking at CHD Youtube channel it appears it's just clips, not fully episodes. I can't find the exact Spotify numbers, it appears JRE is top dog but I don't know where you're getting the huge difference thing from.

Doing a quick search shows that CHD has ranked higher than the JRE at various points and since Spotify doesn't release their exact metrics I, again, don't know where you're getting the "huge difference" from.

[ZedMan]

For the majority of JRE's life it was distributed primarily through YouTube, and CHD never was, so those numbers aren't comparable.