2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Jay Random]

I don't get the impression that Conroy feels that 1st-round pick burning a hole in his pocket. It's in play in the right circumstances, but if he can keep it and use it, he will.

I wonder if he's looking at a partial hockey trade: a winger for an RHS centre, with a pick or prospect as an equalizer for the comparative value of the positions? That would make considerably more sense given the state of the team.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Personally not a fan, but Krebs's name is definitely part of this. Sounds like the player wants out of Buffalo more than the Flames we're hot in pursuit.
I'm told the Flames have higher interest in another couple forwards, Dach rumored to be someone the they are keeping an eye on.
With that said Craig is in absolutely no rush here, in fact he's pretty content with what we have though he knows long term the Flames are unbelievable thin at "C" with very little RHS.

It'd surprise me to see Dach moved. Montreal has only had him for 67 games, and this is his 3rd season there.

I know Conroy has cited Dach as an example of the type of deal he'd be looking to make, but yeah - it'd just shock me to see Montreal move on from him, and also...not really a guy I'd be keen on getting.

[stemit14]

Lebrun was speculating on TSN that Utah might be looking for defence if they start to struggle with Durzi out long term. Also said they are not in a rush to make a trade yet… hoping to wait it out and solve the problem internally. Mentioned that this ownership in Utah wants to win and be competitive now. No more giving up on seasons to continuously rebuild.

That right there is the kind of target for a rebuilding team to trade with. Ownership pressuring management to win now. Lots of picks + prospects from years of rebuilding. Not that I’m eager to trade Andersson right now - he’s looking better than ever and if he indicates he wants to sign a reasonable extension then I’m all for it - but if it goes the other way and it looks like he doesn’t want to stay long term… Utah would be a great target for the flames. Tons of picks. Fantastic prospects including one in particular this city would love. New ownership couple pushing management to win now.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

It really depends on the trade.

Moving something like the Devils pick for a Pinto, Cozenz, Mercer type would be perfectly fine.

There should be no blanket rules against anything, that's where you get yourself into trouble. Every situation has to be assessed on its own.

I know it's not your preferred outcome but this team is always proving again that a bottom 5 finish is probably not in the cards. Worst case is probably that 7-12 range again I think.

They are going to have to be creative with how they fill this void at C. They have to hope they do have a chance to draft the top line guy at some point but a trade for a C shouldn't be something they avoid either.

And I think what we actually haven't talked about is what if the piece they'd be willing to move is actually something like Coronato but get a similar piece that is a C instead of a winger.

I would be totally ok if we were to trade a young player like a Coronato, either alone or in a package, for a young C of a similar age. It would allow us to keep all of our firsts as well.

People keep suggesting putting Zary at C, but in the few times they tried him there he looked much less effective offensively.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

It'd surprise me to see Dach moved. Montreal has only had him for 67 games, and this is his 3rd season there.

I know Conroy has cited Dach as an example of the type of deal he'd be looking to make, but yeah - it'd just shock me to see Montreal move on from him, and also...not really a guy I'd be keen on getting.

A few years ago, I would have jumped for joy if someone suggested Dach as a Flames target. When I see him play these days, it seems like all the injuries have really taken a toll, and he's not near the player he once was- even at the young age of 23.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Lebrun was speculating on TSN that Utah might be looking for defence if they start to struggle with Durzi out long term. Also said they are not in a rush to make a trade yet… hoping to wait it out and solve the problem internally. Mentioned that this ownership in Utah wants to win and be competitive now. No more giving up on seasons to continuously rebuild.

That right there is the kind of target for a rebuilding team to trade with. Ownership pressuring management to win now. Lots of picks + prospects from years of rebuilding. Not that I’m eager to trade Andersson right now - he’s looking better than ever and if he indicates he wants to sign a reasonable extension then I’m all for it - but if it goes the other way and it looks like he doesn’t want to stay long term… Utah would be a great target for the flames. Tons of picks. Fantastic prospects including one in particular this city would love. New ownership couple pushing management to win now.

Nah. No thank you Dave.

Utah is establishing itself as a new winning group with guys that dealt with the #### of Arizona. The players on that team right now give a ####. The players on Calgarys team.give a ####. Teams that give a #### don't make early season rash decisions.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Nah. No thank you Dave.

Utah is establishing itself as a new winning group with guys that dealt with the #### of Arizona. The players on that team right now give a ####. The players on Calgarys team.give a ####. Teams that give a #### don't make early season rash decisions.

Doesn’t sound like anything imminent so I don’t think it would be early in the season. Lebrun mentioned they would try to weather it internally (call ups and giving other guys bigger roles) to see if they can do it without having to make a trade… but if it became clear they can’t solve it internally, they would be pretty aggressive (my term, not his) in solving it with a trade. This is very different than the Arizona management/ownership that would just let the season slip away instead of trying to fix it.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Lebrun was speculating on TSN that Utah might be looking for defence if they start to struggle with Durzi out long term. Also said they are not in a rush to make a trade yet… hoping to wait it out and solve the problem internally. Mentioned that this ownership in Utah wants to win and be competitive now. No more giving up on seasons to continuously rebuild.

That right there is the kind of target for a rebuilding team to trade with. Ownership pressuring management to win now. Lots of picks + prospects from years of rebuilding. Not that I’m eager to trade Andersson right now - he’s looking better than ever and if he indicates he wants to sign a reasonable extension then I’m all for it - but if it goes the other way and it looks like he doesn’t want to stay long term… Utah would be a great target for the flames. Tons of picks. Fantastic prospects including one in particular this city would love. New ownership couple pushing management to win now.

Just for sh**s and giggles....

Utah won't part with baby Iggy, and I doubt they would give D Dmitri Simashev, but in scanning their prospect pool there's a name who stood out to me- C Cole Beaudoin. He was their first-rounder from this past draft, so I doubt they would part him, either.

Obviously, he doesn't help us win now, but with all the talk of our organization being devoid of center depth, his name would sure look good in our prospect list.

He's a big C who moves well, and plays a physical game with an edge. 7 games, with 8 points so far in the WHL.

[Junglist]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Just for sh**s and giggles....

Utah won't part with baby Iggy, and I doubt they would give D Dmitri Simashev, but in scanning their prospect pool there's a name who stood out to me- C Cole Beaudoin. He was their first-rounder from this past draft, so I doubt they would part him, either.

Obviously, he doesn't help us win now, but with all the talk of our organization being devoid of center depth, his name would sure look good in our prospect list.

He's a big C who moves well, and plays a physical game with an edge. 7 games, with 8 points so far in the WHL.

You overrate so many prospects.
Your hit/miss ratio…..oooof

When’s the last time you called a mid round prospect that turned out to be decent?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Lebrun was speculating on TSN that Utah might be looking for defence if they start to struggle with Durzi out long term. Also said they are not in a rush to make a trade yet… hoping to wait it out and solve the problem internally. Mentioned that this ownership in Utah wants to win and be competitive now. No more giving up on seasons to continuously rebuild.

That right there is the kind of target for a rebuilding team to trade with. Ownership pressuring management to win now. Lots of picks + prospects from years of rebuilding. Not that I’m eager to trade Andersson right now - he’s looking better than ever and if he indicates he wants to sign a reasonable extension then I’m all for it - but if it goes the other way and it looks like he doesn’t want to stay long term… Utah would be a great target for the flames. Tons of picks. Fantastic prospects including one in particular this city would love. New ownership couple pushing management to win now.

Tij Iginla for Rasmus Andersson.

[Junglist]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Tij Iginla for Rasmus Andersson.

Joking?

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Junglist

Joking?

Honestly not sure if would be that far fetched… If Andersson keeps playing like this he will likely end up 2nd/3rd in Norris votes (Makar will absolutely win if he keeps up his pace). But Andersson becoming a ppg defender would make him even more valuable. Looking at it the other way though… Tij is Utah’s first pick ever and he is likely considered a top 10-15 prospect league-wide right now. I think by the time the World Juniors are over, his value will be even higher and he will be even more untouchable. Utah apparently asked for a huge ransom from Calgary to switch picks at the draft if Calgary wanted to get Tij.

Both players are extremely valuable… it would take both Calgary and Utah really, really wanting to make that trade happen for it to go through. And, in the end, I bet Calgary would have to add in that situation.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Junglist

You overrate so many prospects.
Your hit/miss ratio…..oooof

When’s the last time you called a mid round prospect that turned out to be decent?

WOW. What an incredibly rude, snotty comment for absolutely no reason. Thank you very much. I post on this site because I love to talk hockey, and especially about the draft, and prospects, etc. I don't post on here because I'm trying to build a reputation- If I cared to do that, I would use my real name.

What is the hit/miss ratio for every NHL team? They must like the kids they draft, or they wouldn't have picked them. What is the hit/miss ratio on all 224 prospects drafted each year? I rarely have the opportunity to post about prospects I don't like, I only talk about the ones I do.

Man, what a dink you are.

[AustinL_NHL]

Originally Posted by Junglist

You overrate so many prospects.
Your hit/miss ratio…..oooof

When’s the last time you called a mid round prospect that turned out to be decent?

Eww.. what an awful vibe it must be being around you.

Sandman is as loved, appreciated and valuable as anyone on this board. Who tf are you?

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Sandman

WOW. What an incredibly rude, snotty comment for absolutely no reason. Thank you very much. I post on this site because I love to talk hockey, and especially about the draft, and prospects, etc. I don't post on here because I'm trying to build a reputation- If I cared to do that, I would use my real name.

What is the hit/miss ratio for every NHL team? They must like the kids they draft, or they wouldn't have picked them. What is the hit/miss ratio on all 224 prospects drafted each year? I rarely have the opportunity to post about prospects I don't like, I only talk about the ones I do.

Man, what a dink you are.

One thing I have learned in life - don't let the jerks in this world stop you from doing what you love. This board would be less informative and fun without your contributions Sandman. You are one of the more enjoyable and informative posters on here, and it is posters like you that make a community worth spending time in.



Thanks for all you do Sandman.



As for Junglist, I doubt I will remember him by the end of the season. Trolls on boards and comment sections are what they are - unremarkable nuisances that should just be ignored. If someone shows you who they really are, I choose to believe them. Junglist type of posts contribute to what? A series of angry responses (which is what posts of this nature are designed to elicit). The problem with everyone thinking that they are somehow edgy and 'calls it like it is', is that they really are just damn boring. Your posts are interesting and a pleasure to read.


And yes, only a moron would assume a batting average of more right than wrong. LoL Teams spend millions of bucks every year on scouting and development, by people with extensive experience and access to things we don't, and teams are nowhere close to 50%. A great year is 2 good prospects from a draft, and teams rarely get that every year over a 10 year period.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Just for sh**s and giggles....

Utah won't part with baby Iggy, and I doubt they would give D Dmitri Simashev, but in scanning their prospect pool there's a name who stood out to me- C Cole Beaudoin. He was their first-rounder from this past draft, so I doubt they would part him, either.

Obviously, he doesn't help us win now, but with all the talk of our organization being devoid of center depth, his name would sure look good in our prospect list.

He's a big C who moves well, and plays a physical game with an edge. 7 games, with 8 points so far in the WHL.

I would be all over this. Was hugely disappointed he went higher than our second pick. Like gridin but would make the swap right now if possible.

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Junglist

You overrate so many prospects.
Your hit/miss ratio…..oooof

When’s the last time you called a mid round prospect that turned out to be decent?

Sad attention seeking post.

[Heavy Jack]

Junglist?? More like Dunglist; get that garbage out of here bro, your hit rate on posting is clicking at just stop. Sandman is beloved around these parts and you are trending towards besmirched with posts like that. Be better.

[Monahammer]

It's obviously a re-do account from a previous miscreant. They admit that by seeming to know Sandman's total post history while only being 2 months old.

Just ignore them. They're not worth anyone's time at all. Probably a generally worthless individual all around.

[Monahammer]

I would add to Rasmus to get Tij. But I'm not sure we would have to depending on how the season goes.
Utah does have a stable of exciting young forwards already playing in the nhl and needs a #1 puck moving dman to truly compete. They'd probably prefer to do that without effecting the current roster.

Meanwhile, Rasmus is playing at Norris level, on a relatively cheap contract with another year of control left. His value is going to be extremely high by mid season (imo 2 x 1st rounder at least.) He also happens to be just the kind of player Utah is looking for style wise.

I think the fit could be there. It also still fits with conroy's plan. Rasmus has unfortunately been rumored to have asked for a trade out of calgary this off-season. So even though he's very successful and a key part of the team this year, it follows the overall goal of creating a group that wants to be here day in day out.