2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[dammage79]

Hey is anybody else getting a prompt on their android to install The page they're on ?

It's a full blown chrome pop up

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Hey is anybody else getting a prompt on their android to install The page they're on ?

It's a full blown chrome pop up

Yes, I am, and I think it's hilarious that considering the conversation this thread has seen so far, this question fits right in.

[dissentowner]

Cody Glass is an interesting name.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Sandman

It looks like we have multiple firsts in consecutive years where top-tier centers will be available, and it is my hope we take advantage and grab a few of them. If we do, we could be serious contenders in years to come, as you don't win a cup without serious strength down the middle.

Those top tier centres are available with very early picks. What is unknown is where those picks will be at.

[Roof-Daddy]

Cody Glass is like Curtis Lazar V2.0 IMO

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Exactly.

And there are a lot of ho-hum players drafted in the top five.

Ten years ago you go in with the “strategy” that you’re going to draft top 5 for three years in a row. You draft Dal Colle (5), Strome(3), and Puljujarvi(4).

Another team is just going to prioritize scouting and development. In the same three drafts, they take Larkin(15), Rantanen(10), and McAvoy(14).

Which team do people look at as having the better “strategy”? Which team has the better base to build a cup winner?

Draft position isn’t a strategy. It’s what you do with the positions you have that matters.

But you can’t deny you’d have a better chance of success with top 5 picks than top 15 picks, regardless of strategy.

[edslunch]

I don’t hear a lot of people clamouring for a scorched earth rebuild. I think more people would argue against propping up a weak team by (re-)signing veterans who will not be part of the long term solution. Shooting for the playoffs right now would be detrimental to the long term prospects of the team, since draft position really does matter.

Keep developing young players, make room in the roster when there’s a choice, accept that competitiveness will take time. Draft top ten for a while, hopefully luck into a top 3 pick or two, but regardless, draft well and keep building from within.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by edslunch

I don’t hear a lot of people clamouring for a scorched earth rebuild. I think more people would argue against propping up a weak team by (re-)signing veterans who will not be part of the long term solution. Shooting for the playoffs right now would be detrimental to the long term prospects of the team, since draft position really does matter.

Keep developing young players, make room in the roster when there’s a choice, accept that competitiveness will take time. Draft top ten for a while, hopefully luck into a top 3 pick or two, but regardless, draft well and keep building from within.

That's been Calgary's plan for the last 20 years or more.

I get that scorched earth and signing veterans who will not be part of the long term solution is not popular with many people.

But for the most part, Calgary's veterans who are better than the propped up ones will also not be part of the long term solution, they are only helping to win games for Calgary and hurting their draft picks.

I guess it depends on what you want as your ultimate goal is for the Flames. But if it's to become a Stanley Cup contender, the 4-0-1 start is likely not doing much to help. Other than the play of Wolf, he's the one exception to the Flames success not helping the long term plan.

[Svartsengi]

Colton Sissions might be available with Nashville’s poor start. He is older than what Flames are looking for but could help. He is good on draws, right handed and used to play for Huska in Kelowna.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by traptor

It seems like it's your biases are bleeding through.

I'm actually not wanting scorched earth.

I'm not convinced that the Flames could get through it. I think we'd end up like Buffalo unless we hit a truly generational player.
We don't have certain market advantages that places like Chicago have.

I'm fine if they decide to re-sign Rasmus or trade for a young center.

But they need some star power.
It can come from anywhere but o know where it's most likely.

I agree, this team needs a top pick. But we don't need to get it this year and we don't need to be SJ bad to get it. If this team keeps it up, we might have to trade for a star center. We have the most firsts in the next 3 drafts than any team in the lleague.

I still expect this team drops, but we don't need to lose 30 more games than we win to get a star.

Leafs got Matthews with a 69 point season

NJ got Hughes with a 72 point season.

Colorado got Mackinnon with a 67 point season

Tampa got Stamkos with a 71 point season

Chicago got Kane with a 71 point season.

These are just 1st OV examples. Lots of stars picked in the top 3 and the team did not need to completely tank.

This team doesn't have any big decisions this year to worry about. They can see how it goes and as long as they don't trade 1st in a position where they are a borderline playoff team, they are fine having a good start.

This team will not be in 1st in the division come the trade deadline, unless Wolf keeps it up. If he does, we have an elite goalie and maybe trading for a star center is the right move.

[HitterD]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

That's been Calgary's plan for the last 20 years or more.

I get that scorched earth and signing veterans who will not be part of the long term solution is not popular with many people.

But for the most part, Calgary's veterans who are better than the propped up ones will also not be part of the long term solution, they are only helping to win games for Calgary and hurting their draft picks.

I guess it depends on what you want as your ultimate goal is for the Flames. But if it's to become a Stanley Cup contender, the 4-0-1 start is likely not doing much to help. Other than the play of Wolf, he's the one exception to the Flames success not helping the long term plan.

Ultimately I agree with the above, and If the Flames get into a top 10 pick position (better yet top 5), it will be for the best long term. That said, as a fan I'm finding it very hard to cheer for that outcome with this exciting, young transitioning team. Better yet, it would be so sweet to see the Flames finish ahead of all of the teams that traded for/signed those players that didn't want to be here (Vegas most of all for me).

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

This team will not be in 1st in the division come the trade deadline, unless Wolf keeps it up. If he does, we have an elite goalie and maybe trading for a star center is the right move.

This is a great point I have been saying since last season. If Wolf plays like the elite goalie he has been projecting to be then just having him is prohibitive to a tank and you have to build around him.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

I agree, this team needs a top pick. But we don't need to get it this year and we don't need to be SJ bad to get it. If this team keeps it up, we might have to trade for a star center. We have the most firsts in the next 3 drafts than any team in the lleague.

I still expect this team drops, but we don't need to lose 30 more games than we win to get a star.

Leafs got Matthews with a 69 point season

NJ got Hughes with a 72 point season.

Colorado got Mackinnon with a 67 point season

Tampa got Stamkos with a 71 point season

Chicago got Kane with a 71 point season.

These are just 1st OV examples. Lots of stars picked in the top 3 and the team did not need to completely tank.

This team doesn't have any big decisions this year to worry about. They can see how it goes and as long as they don't trade 1st in a position where they are a borderline playoff team, they are fine having a good start.

This team will not be in 1st in the division come the trade deadline, unless Wolf keeps it up. If he does, we have an elite goalie and maybe trading for a star center is the right move.

I agree they don't need to be sjs bad. Being somewhat competitive and getting a top pick is best case for us over the next couple years in my opinion.

It's hard to do bith but not impossible. Need a bit of luck.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by edslunch

I don’t hear a lot of people clamouring for a scorched earth rebuild. I think more people would argue against propping up a weak team by (re-)signing veterans who will not be part of the long term solution. Shooting for the playoffs right now would be detrimental to the long term prospects of the team, since draft position really does matter.

Keep developing young players, make room in the roster when there’s a choice, accept that competitiveness will take time. Draft top ten for a while, hopefully luck into a top 3 pick or two, but regardless, draft well and keep building from within.

The Flames have turned over 80% of their roster in the last 2-3 years. I don’t think they are putting much effort into keeping vets around. Just via math.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

I agree, this team needs a top pick. But we don't need to get it this year and we don't need to be SJ bad to get it. If this team keeps it up, we might have to trade for a star center. We have the most firsts in the next 3 drafts than any team in the lleague.

I still expect this team drops, but we don't need to lose 30 more games than we win to get a star.

Leafs got Matthews with a 69 point season

NJ got Hughes with a 72 point season.

Colorado got Mackinnon with a 67 point season

Tampa got Stamkos with a 71 point season

Chicago got Kane with a 71 point season.

These are just 1st OV examples. Lots of stars picked in the top 3 and the team did not need to completely tank.

This team doesn't have any big decisions this year to worry about. They can see how it goes and as long as they don't trade 1st in a position where they are a borderline playoff team, they are fine having a good start.

This team will not be in 1st in the division come the trade deadline, unless Wolf keeps it up. If he does, we have an elite goalie and maybe trading for a star center is the right move.

This insistence that the Flames must get a first or second overall pick to build around isn’t necessarily true. Don’t get me wrong, there’s not much more I would wish for than the Flames to finally have some luck and have McKenna fall on their lap.

That said, and I made this point yesterday, in a redraft of 2016, Tkachuk likely goes second. 2011, Gaudreau likely goes top five.

Every year, or many years, there are guys who go outside top5 and should have in retrospect should have.

[calgarybean]

Can we even trade for Pinto due to the “Play Alberta” ads on our jersey’s? ��

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by TOfan

This insistence that the Flames must get a first or second overall pick to build around isn’t necessarily true. Don’t get me wrong, there’s not much more I would wish for than the Flames to finally have some luck and have McKenna fall on their lap.

That said, and I made this point yesterday, in a redraft of 2016, Tkachuk likely goes second. 2011, Gaudreau likely goes top five.

Every year, or many years, there are guys who go outside top5 and should have in retrospect should have.

Nothing is certain and you can always get lucky but your chances of hitting on top talent goes up the closer to the top you are. Not to mention the sort of exponential talent jump when you have generational or close to generational talent in the draft. Otherwise you could just get a bunch of seventh round picks.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

I agree, this team needs a top pick. But we don't need to get it this year and we don't need to be SJ bad to get it. If this team keeps it up, we might have to trade for a star center. We have the most firsts in the next 3 drafts than any team in the lleague.

I still expect this team drops, but we don't need to lose 30 more games than we win to get a star.

Leafs got Matthews with a 69 point season

NJ got Hughes with a 72 point season.

Colorado got Mackinnon with a 67 point season

Tampa got Stamkos with a 71 point season

Chicago got Kane with a 71 point season.

These are just 1st OV examples. Lots of stars picked in the top 3 and the team did not need to completely tank.

This team doesn't have any big decisions this year to worry about. They can see how it goes and as long as they don't trade 1st in a position where they are a borderline playoff team, they are fine having a good start.

This team will not be in 1st in the division come the trade deadline, unless Wolf keeps it up. If he does, we have an elite goalie and maybe trading for a star center is the right move.

Without looking to closely, I think that the worse teams today are worse than the worse teams of the past. Teams are now routinely getting in the low 60's range and below to get to the bottom of the league. Like it or not, teams are tanking now more than ever.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Without looking to closely, I think that the worse teams today are worse than the worse teams of the past. Teams are now routinely getting in the low 60's range and below to get to the bottom of the league. Like it or not, teams are tanking now more than ever.

Getting 1st pick and being the worst team are 2 different things. 10 times the worst team picked 1st vs 9 times a team that wasn't last picked 1st. This is why the point totals are higher for some teams that got their star.

Draft lottery rules have changed to, but many years ago you could only jump 4 spots. It wasn't until 2013 that you had a much better chance of winning 1st picks higher up the standings. Since that change only 5 out of 12 years the worst team picked 1st.

The Flames need a star, probably needs to be a star center too. they probably need at least 1 top 3 picks. 4-0-1 isn't going to change the fact this team will probably be near the bottom.

If they keep playing this well, this team has to have some young players have great seasons. There will be too many positives to come out of this season and I don't think Conroy will change the plan for 1 good year.

I want to top pick as much as anyone, but it's not a bad thing we are playing this well.

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by Sandman

We have the best prospect pool right now that this organization has seen in at least the last 30 years. We are STACKED on the wing, and our D is one of the best in the league. We have some goalies in the pipeline, but there isn't a huge hurry as it looks like we have one of the best young netminders in the league in Dustin Wolf. All we need now is to build down the middle.

It's a real shame that some teams finish bottom-5 in years where the BPA isn't necessarily a franchise player, or a prototypical #1 C. As good as he is, if my team had the 4th-overall pick and got 5'10" Lucas Raymond out of it, I would be disappointed (though they made up for it more or less by getting Moritz Seider). It looks like we have multiple firsts in consecutive years where top-tier centers will be available, and it is my hope we take advantage and grab a few of them. If we do, we could be serious contenders in years to come, as you don't win a cup without serious strength down the middle.

I’m still gutted we weren’t able to trade up this summer and grab Hage. He is going to be a top 6 C in 3 years IMO