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[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Mehdi Hasan on the impact of Harris' actions/inactions in the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1847409460480004609

Stupid take is stupid. Hasan points a finger at Harris and asks, "what have you done to earn our vote?" but does not ask the same question of Trump. You have to be a ####ing idiot to not ask the same questions of both candidates, weigh their answers, and see which is actually better for your cause. The fact of the matter is these dip####s don't do that and instead focus on one and not realizing the repercussions of their own action in making a vote for Trump, or withholding their vote. It's insane, it's stupid, and it needs to stop.

[direwolf]

A vote for anyone other than the Democrats at this point is a vote for Trump. And I'm having a hard time seeing how a fascist MAGA-style government would benefit Muslim Americans in any way, shape, or form.

And I agree, if you're gonna ask this question to Harris, you'd better be asking the same one to Trump as well. I guarantee that his answer, and any bats*** insane policies that a MAGA administration would put on the table, would be much worse for Gaza than anything Harris puts forth.

[puffnstuff]

Considering trump yesterday said Biden has been holding bibi back and that he would let him finish the job...

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Stupid take is stupid. Hasan points a finger at Harris and asks, "what have you done to earn our vote?" but does not ask the same question of Trump. You have to be a ####ing idiot to not ask the same questions of both candidates, weigh their answers, and see which is actually better for your cause. The fact of the matter is these dip####s don't do that and instead focus on one and not realizing the repercussions of their own action in making a vote for Trump, or withholding their vote. It's insane, it's stupid, and it needs to stop.

Yeah, I agree. If I'm recalling correctly, I think he may have even said that he isn't going to vote for Trump and may have even acknowledged that he thinks Trump will be worse with the Muslim ban from before, etc. But his frustration I think was more around how the situation in Gaza and her and Biden being enablers to the genocide will likely show up in the election when a large group of people simply don't vote for her, when they may have if she did some of the things he mentioned in his video.

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Mehdi Hasan on the impact of Harris' actions/inactions in the ongoing genocide in Gaza.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1847409460480004609

Garbage like this is infuriating. The vice president has very little actual power. Blame the president, or the republican congress, or decades of US foreign policy that has made Israel the only viable ally in that region, but blaming Harris is pretty dumb.

Have these idiots looked at Project 2025? With a Trump presidency, there's a non-zero chance that Muslims in America will be deported or end up in internment camps, regardless of their citizenship, or how many generations they've lived in the US. MAGAs absolutely hate them. If they vote for Trump, or don't vote at all, they're fools.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by GGG

That’s just not going to happen. I would bet millions of dollars that Donald Trump won’t have a 3rd term.

That’s not saying there aren’t scenarios where he transitions power in a less than fair election but he won’t be able to extend his term beyond the next 4 years. It’s foolish to think that democracy will break that fasts. The appearance of democracy will be upheld. Even Putin followed term limit rules initially.

Putin changed the laws around Prime Minister and then Presidency to enshrine himself as leader forever.

Trump will do the same, watch. He absolutely will do that. He already tried a coup for #### sakes. Just because you hope or don’t want it to happen or it sounds kind of crazy doesn’t mean it won’t or can’t happen. Trump is telling everybody exactly what he intends to do and people like yourself just don’t believe him.

Trump literally has said if he gets in, people won’t have to vote again. Did you forget that? Maybe you weren’t aware? You think he is joking or it just isn’t possible? Watch. This election literally is the fate of America as we know it.

[Paulie Walnuts]

The Israel thing is not a democratic or republican thing. It’s a US thing it’s the same regardless of party.

Blaming Harris and Biden is plain stupid and shows the lack of knowledge that moron has and how dangerous it is to say things like that.

[Senator Clay Davis]

So I saw that Arnold Palmer was trending and since he's been dead a while I was wondering why. Guess Trump wrapped a 15 minute dementia ramble by talking about how big Arnold's dick was. God Bless America.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Putin changed the laws around Prime Minister and then Presidency to enshrine himself as leader forever.

Trump will do the same, watch. He absolutely will do that. He already tried a coup for #### sakes. Just because you hope or don’t want it to happen or it sounds kind of crazy doesn’t mean it won’t or can’t happen. Trump is telling everybody exactly what he intends to do and people like yourself just don’t believe him.

Trump literally has said if he gets in, people won’t have to vote again. Did you forget that? Maybe you weren’t aware? You think he is joking or it just isn’t possible? Watch. This election literally is the fate of America as we know it.

Yep. With this Supreme Court being what it is (and the near certainty that the GOP takes the Senate), there's zero indication that they won't let him implement Project 2025 and do whatever he wants.

I also think, if Trump wins this election, there's a very strong chance that Trump's health fails him and Vance becomes president within a few years. He's probably salivating right now at the thought of becoming Führer of America.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Lmao seeing that video from the Batista making fun of of Donald’s guy and he turns around and gets 2 losers who can’t even move with massive hits like Kane and Undertaker is hilarious.

[puffnstuff]

I have to admit I thought you were kidding about the dick thing...you were not.

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1847765368657363009

Look at the losers in the background laughing.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

https://twitter.com/user/status/1847765368657363009

Look at the losers in the background laughing.

That's exactly the kind of story the most obnoxious guy at the country club would tell at the bar at the end of men's day. And he'd get laughs and pats on the back from guys looking exactly like those guys, especially if they had reason to suck up to him.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

The Israel thing is not a democratic or republican thing. It’s a US thing it’s the same regardless of party.

Blaming Harris and Biden is plain stupid and shows the lack of knowledge that moron has and how dangerous it is to say things like that.

You can believe that if you want, but the truth is that she's done nothing to distance herself from Biden's foreign policy and she's been openly praising war criminals like Dick Cheney.

She's squandered every chance she's been provided to moderate on Israel/Palestine.

This is classic Democrats getting high on their own farts and fumbling the ball at the 1-yard line. People have been telling them for the last two months that this is the one issue that could kill them in November, and they've continued to tell everyone it doesn't matter.

Hell, look at this thread. We have know-it-all posters like Lanny who were confident that this was so low on the list of priorities for American voters that she didn't need to do anything proactive about it.

It doesn't matter that it's low on the list of priorities for most voters. What matters is that it's the number one priority for enough of the voters whose votes she needs.

And in tried and true Democrat fashion they're now lecturing these voters instead of trying to get their votes. You have to campaign to the electorate that actually exists, not the one you want to exist.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by rubecube

You can believe that if you want, but the truth is that she's done nothing to distance herself from Biden's foreign policy and she's been openly praising war criminals like Dick Cheney.

She's squandered every chance she's been provided to moderate on Israel/Palestine.

This is classic Democrats getting high on their own farts and fumbling the ball at the 1-yard line. People have been telling them for the last two months that this is the one issue that could kill them in November, and they've continued to tell everyone it doesn't matter.

Hell, look at this thread. We have know-it-all posters like Lanny who were confident that this was so low on the list of priorities for American voters that she didn't need to do anything proactive about it.

It doesn't matter that it's low on the list of priorities for most voters. What matters is that it's the number one priority for enough of the voters whose votes she needs.

And in tried and true Democrat fashion they're now lecturing these voters instead of trying to get their votes. You have to campaign to the electorate that actually exists, not the one you want to exist.

Two things:

1) A significant portion of the democratic voter base is extremely pro-Israel. Turning her back on Israel could lose her more voters than she would gain.

2) As a voter, you should be realistic about what you can control and what you can't. The part you can't control is the fact that the winner will be either Harris or Trump. The part you can control is affecting the likelihood of one candidate defeating the other.

This is not about lecturing. This is about pointing out the reality of the situation.

[Geraldsh]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Yep. With this Supreme Court being what it is (and the near certainty that the GOP takes the Senate), there's zero indication that they won't let him implement Project 2025 and do whatever he wants.

I also think, if Trump wins this election, there's a very strong chance that Trump's health fails him and Vance becomes president within a few years. He's probably salivating right now at the thought of becoming Führer of America.

Once Vance is VP Trump will probably fall out of a window.

[OldDutch]

Originally Posted by rubecube

This is classic Democrats getting high on their own farts and fumbling the ball at the 1-yard line. People have been telling them for the last two months that this is the one issue that could kill them in November, and they've continued to tell everyone it doesn't matter.

Find it interesting that leftists are now finally tuning in. In 2016 all Trump voters were racist. In 2020 they were morons. Always some non-reflective answer as to why people don’t see the world they do.

Look at Obama. Out there this last few weeks scolding black men. Biden in 2020 saying you ain’t black if you vote Republican.

The part I hate to burst your bubble with is that its never one thing. This is a death of a thousand cuts. Arrogance, focusing on issues that don’t really matter to the electorate overall, and an overall oversell of what they will deliver. People are tired of it, and any clown that had a track record of economic competence is better than the current state.

Or Americans are just racist and dumb. Ya thats it.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Putin changed the laws around Prime Minister and then Presidency to enshrine himself as leader forever.

Trump will do the same, watch. He absolutely will do that. He already tried a coup for #### sakes. Just because you hope or don’t want it to happen or it sounds kind of crazy doesn’t mean it won’t or can’t happen. Trump is telling everybody exactly what he intends to do and people like yourself just don’t believe him.

Trump literally has said if he gets in, people won’t have to vote again. Did you forget that? Maybe you weren’t aware? You think he is joking or it just isn’t possible? Watch. This election literally is the fate of America as we know it.

Yeah but he didn’t do it in one electoral term. He was president, then prime minister, then used his powers as prime minister to become president again. All while he was relatively popular. Trump won’t be able to end term limits in his 4 year term. It’s much more likely to try to transfer power in a less than fair election to Junior. The erosion of democracy takes time.

[MRCboicgy]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Look at the losers in the background laughing.

I hadn't seen the original, but I saw Patton Oswalt's version, and I snorted.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1847780050533322906

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by GGG

Trump won’t be able to end term limits in his 4 year term.

Why? What is this based off of?

If Trump wins, America’s ####ed. I do agree with you that he’ll somehow figure out how to get his kids to succeed him though, I think little chance Vance takes over.