10-14-2024, 08:07 PM
|
#1841
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by blankall
Eby.
E=5
B=2
Y=25
5+2 is one less than 8. 25, the third letter, divided by 3 is 8 remainder 1. Add that remainder 1 to the previous 7, and you get 88, or HH.
David Hitler indeed.
|
__________________
CP's 15th Most Annoying Poster! (who wasn't too cowardly to enter that super duper serious competition)
|
|
|
10-14-2024, 11:43 PM
|
#1842
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
What timeframe are we looking at? Here’s Bill Clinton’s state of the union address in 1995:
Hard to imagine any Democrat making those statements today.
As recently as 2005, there was little difference in the stance of Republicans and Democrats towards immigration. In the last decade, it’s Democrats who have changed most. If the Biden/Harris administration is making a course correction, it’s back towards the approach of the Obama years, which was itself much more liberal than under Clinton.
Democrats used to see immigration as a labour/economic issue, and the labour movement has historically regarded low-skilled immigration as a threat to wages and bargaining power. Until recently, border security was a bipartisan issue - the 2008 Democratic Party convention called for improved border security and hiring more border agents. It’s only in the last 10 years or so that Democrats have championed immigration as primarily a human rights issue.
https://www.npr.org/2019/02/19/69480...nged-the-party
Here’s a speech by Obama in 2007.
Very different from the way Democrats have been talking about the issue in recent years, when they became hostile to even couching the issue in terms of ‘legality,’ let alone vowing to punish unauthorized entry.
|
This is one of the most hilariously unself-aware posts in the history of CP political discourse.
Can I play, too, though?
Cliff, economically speaking, in which direction does the current iteration of the Democratic Party sit in comparison to where the party sat in say 1933?
|
|
|
10-15-2024, 07:09 AM
|
#1843
|
Franchise Player
|
Back to 30s again, eh?
Look, if you can’t recognize how vastly preferable the governments of Biden, Macron, and Tusk are to the people who they beat in elections, if you’re so far out of the mainstream that they look neo-fascist to your eyes, then you deserve to forever remain on the outside looking in. Keep telling yourself you can change the world outside of electoral politics, without ever fighting and winning elections and forming government.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by fotze
If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
|
|
|
|
10-15-2024, 07:49 AM
|
#1844
|
Participant 
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Back to 30s again, eh?
Look, if you can’t recognize how vastly preferable the governments of Biden, Macron, and Tusk are to the people who they beat in elections, if you’re so far out of the mainstream that they look neo-fascist to your eyes, then you deserve to forever remain on the outside looking in. Keep telling yourself you can change the world outside of electoral politics, without ever fighting and winning elections and forming government.
|
Do you purposely avoid points and misrepresent arguments you’re under-equipped to handle because you’re too embarrassed to admit you’re out of your depth or do you just actually not understand when you’re doing it?
I mean, I’m sure, “Yeah well, Biden is better than Trump” gets a lot of claps around the water cooler, but surely you don’t actually think that’s a real response to what rubecube is talking about? I half expected an Azure “  ” to cap that one off. Why don’t you try to pretend rube is a Nazi so you’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and really listen to his arguments instead of brushing him off as a dirty leftist?
Opendoor listed off a lot of good points, you awkwardly tried to address one and failed, care to try the others?
Quote:
Immigration for one, both compared to recent years and longer term trends. For example, I doubt a Democratic President would even dream of giving illegal aliens amnesty like Ronald Reagan did in 1986. Harris is also promising tax cuts at a time when US revenue is already exceedingly low. And you didn't really see Obama or Clinton touting their gun credentials or talking up their history of being tough on crime like Harris has. And foreign policy is also more hawk-like than a lot of past Democratic administrations and candidates.
And yeah, they talk a lot about reproductive rights, but their promise boils down to maybe returning to the status quo from 50 years ago, if they can appoint enough justices. That's not really a progressive or transformative argument; it's ceding ground to the right wing because they've done a poor job of maintaining peoples' rights. So even when pushing what are historically left-wing policies, they're doing it in a conservative, defensive manner. Basically, they're letting Republicans dictate the conversation while acting as sort of small c conservatives trying to maintain the status quo from 10 years ago.
|
Or you just gonna go with “neener neener leftists never gonna win!” while pretending anyone who says governments are co-opting right and extreme right positions are actually calling everyone neo-fascists? Because that’s a little too intellectually vacant to be entertaining for long.
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to PepsiFree For This Useful Post:
|
|
10-15-2024, 08:13 AM
|
#1845
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
|
Polls showing Conservative support slipped after the debate.
Day 1 of advanced voting also saw record turnout.
Saturday will be interesting; I'm expecting NDP to hold on.
|
|
|
10-15-2024, 08:32 AM
|
#1846
|
Franchise Player
|
What far-right policies are they co-opting?
The huge surge at the southern border during Biden’s administration became a political problem. The Democrats are addressing it by going back to the stance of the Obama administration and being stronger on border security - a policy that’s popular with voters. Do you think Obama’s immigration policies were far-right?
They’re actually trying to win an election - that means moving off of policies that are unpopular to policies that are more popular. Sometimes that might mean pursuing more conservative policies. That’s how electoral politics work for parties that are trying to win elections and form governments.
As for their policy towards Israel, I hate to break it to you and rube, but American foreign policy changes very little from administration to administration. Because America’s foreign policy is about defending America’s geopolitical interests. You know who may well make a break with America’s long-standing foreign policy principles? Trump.
As for Macron, he’s trying to keep France onside with the EU while pushing the country to be more like Germany and less like Italy (which is the trajectory they’re on). He brought in a conservative PM because it improves the chances of getting a budget passed that isn’t a complete tire-fire. Politics.
Politicians across Europe of every stripe (including leftist governments like Denmark’s Social Democrats) are tightening up on immigration controls. Better to have a social democratic government continuing to pass social democratic legislation while imposing greater restrictions on immigration, than cede power to far-right parties to impose even greater restrictions while also bringing in bad domestic policies. Politics.
As for Tusk, he defeated a Polish government that, alongside Orban’s Hungary, was the most authoritarian right-wing regime in Europe. The kind of regime that people like Steven Bannon dream of Trump imposing on America. And we’re supposed to wring our hands because he’s a pro-market neoliberal? Anyone who wants to see far-right populism pushed back should have been doing cartwheels the night Civic Platform won the election.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by fotze
If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
|
Last edited by CliffFletcher; 10-15-2024 at 08:42 AM.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to CliffFletcher For This Useful Post:
|
|
10-15-2024, 11:02 PM
|
#1847
|
First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: 1000 miles from nowhere
|
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...-ship-terminal
Quote:
A female tourist was repeatedly punched and kicked in the face near the cruise ship terminal at Canada Place on Sunday morning.
Vancouver Police Department spokesman Sgt. Steve Addison said the attack was reported at about 9 a.m. on Oct. 13.
He said the 35-year-old visitor to Vancouver was walking near the cruise ship terminal when she was assaulted by a stranger.
“She was repeatedly punched and kicked in the face, and sustained multiple injuries that required medical attention at hospital,” Addison said. “The suspect and victim did not know each other and had no prior interaction before the assault occurred.”
Bystanders who called police were able to provide enough evidence, including video, that led them to a residential building near East Pender and Columbia streets where a suspect was taken into custody at around 12:30 p.m. with the help of a police dog.
Massimo Rosario Falvo, 40, has been charged with assault and remains in custody.
According to court records, Falvo assaulted a person in Vancouver on Nov. 3, 2023 and has appeared in court 15 times since then, not including on his most recent charge.
|
This type of interaction can’t be good for tourism… sigh.
__________________
____________________________________________
|
|
|
10-15-2024, 11:06 PM
|
#1848
|
Franchise Player
|
https://globalnews.ca/news/10813119/...ranger-attack/
Repeat offender allegedly attacks tourist in Vancouver
There has been another alleged stranger attack in downtown Vancouver, this time targeting a female tourist.
Police said the defenceless woman was punched in the head, knocked to the ground and kicked repeatedly, her injuries requiring hospitalization.
Falvo is well known to police.
“He was on probation at the time of this offence for similar offences that occurred in the past,” Vancouver police Sgt. Steve Addison said.
In 2024 Falvo was convicted of assaulting four different people.
All the incidents involved individuals being punched in the head. The BC Prosecution Service confirmed he received a sentence of three years probation and one day in custody, taking into account 22 days of pre-sentencing custody.
Even Falvo was surprised, posting “3 years probation for 4 separate assault charges. I’m lucky I didn’t go to jail” on social media.
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...-ship-terminal
“She was repeatedly punched and kicked in the face, and sustained multiple injuries that required medical attention at hospital,” Addison said. “The suspect and victim did not know each other and had no prior interaction before the assault occurred.”
According to court records, Falvo assaulted a person in Vancouver on Nov. 3, 2023 and has appeared in court 15 times since then, not including on his most recent charge.
Last edited by chemgear; 10-16-2024 at 10:13 PM.
|
|
|
10-16-2024, 11:20 PM
|
#1849
|
Celebrated Square Root Day
|
Literally the post above yours, Chemgear.
|
|
|
10-17-2024, 06:30 PM
|
#1850
|
Franchise Player
|
Ah, missed that. Something something it's hard to keep track of them all.
Still surprised not surprised (just like he was) after being freed after multiple other random violent assaults like this. Getting just one single day of jail time is . . . something.
Falvo was on probation during the time of the alleged assault, court records show.
He was sentenced in May to three years probation and one day in jail for simple assault, assault causing bodily harm and two counts of assault. The offences occured in 2022 and 2023 in Vancouver and Coquitlam against two men and two women.
He pleaded guilty to assaulting a man and a woman on the same day, according to court documents.
Falvo was also charged with obstructing a peace officer, though that charge was stayed.
He received one day of jail time after the court took into account his pre-sentence custody of 22 days, according to the B.C. Prosecution Service.
|
|
|
10-18-2024, 09:29 AM
|
#1851
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
Literally the post above yours, Chemgear.
|
Posted only a few minutes apart. Gets a pass from me.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Robbob For This Useful Post:
|
|
10-18-2024, 09:32 AM
|
#1852
|
Ate 100 Treadmills
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by chemgear
Ah, missed that. Something something it's hard to keep track of them all.
Still surprised not surprised (just like he was) after being freed after multiple other random violent assaults like this. Getting just one single day of jail time is . . . something.
Falvo was on probation during the time of the alleged assault, court records show.
He was sentenced in May to three years probation and one day in jail for simple assault, assault causing bodily harm and two counts of assault. The offences occured in 2022 and 2023 in Vancouver and Coquitlam against two men and two women.
He pleaded guilty to assaulting a man and a woman on the same day, according to court documents.
Falvo was also charged with obstructing a peace officer, though that charge was stayed.
He received one day of jail time after the court took into account his pre-sentence custody of 22 days, according to the B.C. Prosecution Service.
|
It's hard to figure out what's going on with Falvo. He seems to be pretty aware of what he's doing. His social media posts certainly don't seem like those of someone suffering from mental health issues with no control over their actions. He just likes attacking strangers, specifically, punching them in the head.
|
|
|
10-19-2024, 02:49 AM
|
#1853
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Back to 30s again, eh?
|
Balls to the wall hilarious. You used the West fighting the Nazis in WW2 as an example of how liberals aren't fascist. However, dropping back to the 30s is too far. Can you please advise me when the cut off year occurs?
Quote:
Look, if you can’t recognize how vastly preferable the governments of Biden, Macron, and Tusk are to the people who they beat in elections, if you’re so far out of the mainstream that they look neo-fascist to your eyes, then you deserve to forever remain on the outside looking in. Keep telling yourself you can change the world outside of electoral politics, without ever fighting and winning elections and forming government.
|
And another example of why Cliff is a deeply unserious poster. Just an egregious strawman. I've literally never said said that Trump was preferable to Biden, etc.
Classic Cliff.
|
|
|
10-19-2024, 04:08 PM
|
#1855
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
|
Huh, if theres one thing you'd think Vancouver would be prepared for it'd be lots of water.
__________________
The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!
This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.
The World Ends when you're dead. Until then, you've got more punishment in store. - Flames Fans
If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Locke For This Useful Post:
|
|
10-19-2024, 04:16 PM
|
#1856
|
Franchise Player
|
Vancouver is never prepared for anything
|
|
|
10-19-2024, 05:29 PM
|
#1857
|
Franchise Player
|
Last edited by chemgear; 10-19-2024 at 05:32 PM.
|
|
|
10-19-2024, 05:31 PM
|
#1858
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason14h
Vancouver is never prepared for anything
|
Its just a great opportunity for them to commune with Nature and be one with Mother Gaia though...she is cleansing them!
__________________
The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!
This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.
The World Ends when you're dead. Until then, you've got more punishment in store. - Flames Fans
If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
|
|
|
10-19-2024, 05:32 PM
|
#1859
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
|
So glad I am not on standby this weekend.
__________________
"A pessimist thinks things can't get any worse. An optimist knows they can."
|
|
|
10-19-2024, 05:42 PM
|
#1860
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
|
Hasn't gotten too bad in our area of Vancouver.
Those videos from North Van are crazy, hope no one get injured.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Winsor_Pilates For This Useful Post:
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:21 PM.
|
|