10-17-2024, 07:02 PM
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#241
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Why is San Diego a prime sports market?
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It would fill the hole in the market for a professional sports team due to other professional sports teams leaving the market because their hole wasn't filled in.
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10-17-2024, 07:15 PM
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#242
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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If San Diego ever got an NHL franchise, they'd instantly be my second favourite team. And the trips for Flames road games there would be amazing!
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10-17-2024, 08:37 PM
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#243
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: I'm somewhere where I don't know where I am
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San Diego first, then, Tijuana!
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10-17-2024, 08:42 PM
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#244
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: So Long, Bannatyne
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Rumor Owners meeting today to approve expansion to 34 teams
…But does anyone in the NHL owners’ group even know what “San Diego” means in English…? 
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10-17-2024, 08:58 PM
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#245
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All I can get
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Why is San Diego a prime sports market?
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The twelfth largest metropolitan area. A history of (minor) pro hockey.
Kroenke Sports is behind the development. A major player in professional sports teams. While they already own the Avalanche, they’re in a position to recruit tenants for their facility.
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10-17-2024, 09:17 PM
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#246
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
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And Baxter can be their Logo!
The arena shall serve nothing but Scotch! No overhead lighting, only Lamps.
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10-17-2024, 10:22 PM
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#247
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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San Diego is the largest metro area in the States will only one Major League team, and 18th largest overall.
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10-17-2024, 10:37 PM
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#248
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All I can get
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San Diego is getting an expansion MLS team for next year.
Regardless, it’ll be interesting to see how this plays out. As we’ve seen in the case of the Utah HC, things can come quickly, seemingly out of nowhere.
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10-17-2024, 10:43 PM
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#249
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
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The latest update on that link is two years ago. Did something happen recently to get this closer to reality?
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10-17-2024, 10:49 PM
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#250
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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The San Diego San Diegans?
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10-17-2024, 10:53 PM
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#251
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Their logo could be a hipster with a sideways baseball hat, flat-brimmed, with sticker, smoking a joint with a hockey stick on the ground beside him!
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10-17-2024, 11:19 PM
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#252
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
The twelfth largest metropolitan area. A history of (minor) pro hockey.
Kroenke Sports is behind the development. A major player in professional sports teams. While they already own the Avalanche, they’re in a position to recruit tenants for their facility.
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I’m not so convinced that San Diego is a great pro sports market. One thing it lacks is a big corporate base for suites and marketing spend. As a market, it reminds me alot of San Antonio.
The NBA is in no hurry to go back there and that is a better fit than hockey. The arena development is paused, with a council vote anticipated in 2025.
I don’t believe there’s anything percolating in San Diego unless I missed something.
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10-18-2024, 12:38 AM
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#253
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muta
If San Diego ever got an NHL franchise, they'd instantly be my second favourite team. And the trips for Flames road games there would be amazing!
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Bring the clubs, Torrey Pines baby!
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10-18-2024, 06:01 AM
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#254
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: I'm somewhere where I don't know where I am
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Home of the Beat Farmers!
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10-18-2024, 09:02 AM
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#255
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uranus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
No. I disagree. Its about the money.
Could SW Ontario handle another team? Sure. But there is such a thing as 'Cannibalizing Profits.'
You've got teams in the region already that are making cash hand over fist.
Will you make more by adding another team? Odds are...probably not. Not in the grand scheme of things.
If I were unbelievably wealthy, would I invest in a Hockey Team in Ontario? Nope. Sounds like a bad deal.
You think you can walk in to Ontario and compete against the Leafs, Habs and Bruins? Thats not a bet I'd take.
Even the Sabres and Sens? They've all got established fan bases, you'd be taking a financial bath for decades. I'd invest my money elsewhere.
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Why is it that teams like NJ, NYR and the NYI all exist in a relatively small area then? LA and ANA are also in a relatively close proximity.
I don't buy that argument that you would take a bath or the market is tapped out when a large majority of Leafs fans can't or won't go to a home game due to the cost of tickets, time involved to commute to a game etc.
If the team comes in and is at least competitive like most expansion teams are now, a hockey mad area like Ontario is going to support them.
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10-18-2024, 09:21 AM
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#256
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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LA and Anaheim are actually fairly far apart. It's an ordeal getting to one from the other. Also there's 18 million people living in the greater LA area.
Having said that the GTA has almost 7mm, it could support another team easily I think.
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10-18-2024, 12:54 PM
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#257
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus
Why is it that teams like NJ, NYR and the NYI all exist in a relatively small area then? LA and ANA are also in a relatively close proximity.
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Media.
National media in the U.S. are pretty much irrelevant to the success or failure of an NHL team, and in New York and L.A. particularly, there are many different corporate owners of local media and you can carve out a niche for a new team.
In Toronto, all sports media is in the hands of Bell and Rogers, both of which have a direct financial interest in the Leafs, and an obvious reason to snub a second GTA team.
Back in the day, ‘Molson Hockey Night In Canada’ (as it was then officially known) showed the logos of all six Canadian teams in the opening titles: Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary, and Winnipeg. Yes, six, not seven. They didn't even show the Quebec Nordiques' logo, and almost never broadcast Nordiques games outside of the playoffs – because the Nordiques were owned by a rival brewery and Molson did not wish them to be on national TV.
This is the level of corporate oligopoly and ego-driven pettiness that you get in the small, incestuous world of Canadian media. Bell, Rogers, and MLSE would do everything in their power to strangle a second Toronto team in the cradle. So far, they've prevented anyone from even bidding for an expansion franchise.
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10-18-2024, 03:30 PM
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#258
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Kelowna
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If they approve 34 is the end goal 36 teams to have equal divisions in the conferences?
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10-18-2024, 04:26 PM
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#259
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zulu29
If they approve 34 is the end goal 36 teams to have equal divisions in the conferences?
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30 teams was perfect. 32 fine. (Still not a fan). Anything more is a joke.
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10-18-2024, 04:28 PM
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#260
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: I'm somewhere where I don't know where I am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Junglist
30 teams was perfect. 32 fine. (Still not a fan). Anything more is a joke.
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6 teams was perfect. 12 fine. Anything more is a joke
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