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Old 10-17-2024, 01:56 PM   #201
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The Flames haven't been pulling up their talent for years. They've been signing useless vets to fill out roles that prospects should have been playing. I'd go as far to say that every prospect or draft pick post-2016, until Conroy took over, had their development stunted by the Flames reluctance to play their own prospects.

For example, we're talking about Pospisil like he's a great young prospect....he's turning 25. He could be out of his prime within a couple of years.
You have to completely ignore Pospisil's injury history and the resulting loss of games in the AHL to believe that he was held back at any time in his career by a vet being brought in.
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Definitely feels like the Sabres are ready to panic. Another couple of weeks and the dam will break.

I want one of Cozens or Power, IMO those are realistically on the table.

Rasmus, Kadri, Coleman probably players that would interest the sabres.
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You have to completely ignore Pospisil's injury history and the resulting loss of games in the AHL to believe that he was held back at any time in his career by a vet being brought in.
Pospisil's injuries were treated by a vet?
no wonder he missed so much time.


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Definitely feels like the Sabres are ready to panic. Another couple of weeks and the dam will break.

I want one of Cozens or Power, IMO those are realistically on the table.

Rasmus, Kadri, Coleman probably players that would interest the sabres.
Rasmus is the only player out of those three really available though. The other two have NMC and don't want to be moved.
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Old 10-17-2024, 02:11 PM   #205
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Pospisil's injuries were treated by a vet?
no wonder he missed so much time.


I'll show myself out...
Would still be better than the Oilers' doctor.
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If you want to see what a team with a third of its roster under 23 looks like, just look at the Sabres. Youngest team in the league, and it shows.
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Definitely feels like the Sabres are ready to panic. Another couple of weeks and the dam will break.

I want one of Cozens or Power, IMO those are realistically on the table.

Rasmus, Kadri, Coleman probably players that would interest the sabres.
I don’t follow the sabres that closely, why is it you think the #1 pick from just a couple years ago would be available?
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There haven’t been any rumours that Cozens or Power are available. But with the prospect of a 14th straight season out of the playoffs, and with Adams in his 5th season as GM, the Sabres will be under intense pressure to turn things around. Give it another month, and they might be willing to do something desperate. Though more likely they’d move prospects and picks to shore up their core rather than break it apart.
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The Flames haven't been pulling up their talent for years. They've been signing useless vets to fill out roles that prospects should have been playing. I'd go as far to say that every prospect or draft pick post-2016, until Conroy took over, had their development stunted by the Flames reluctance to play their own prospects.

For example, we're talking about Pospisil like he's a great young prospect....he's turning 25. He could be out of his prime within a couple of years.
When do you believe Pospisil was ready for the NHL?

And which other prospects do you believe were held back, and at what point do you think they should have been on the team?
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I don’t follow the sabres that closely, why is it you think the #1 pick from just a couple years ago would be available?
Roster makeup and general rumor mill. They have Dahlin and Byram as obviously strong defenders on the left side. Dahlin is the captain, and straw that has stirred the drink in Buffalo over the last two years. Byram is the one playing best so far this year, and is saying the right things in the media. There seems to be a strong desire to really change up the mix of the club...

Power would be extremely expensive though, no doubt. Probably have to dangle Coronato in a trade with Andersson to have a shot at that.
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There haven’t been any rumours that Cozens or Power are available. But with the prospect of a 14th straight season out of the playoffs, and with Adams in his 5th season as GM, the Sabres will be under intense pressure to turn things around. Give it another month, and they might be willing to do something desperate. Though more likely they’d move prospects and picks to shore up their core rather than break it apart.
They have 3 points in 5 games. If they dig a bigger hole, they won't get out of it, and at that point I would not let the GM make a desperate trade and would fire him instead.

Kevyn Adams sucks. Beefing with your star #1C and watching him go on to win the Cup while you have Peyton Krebs should have gotten him fired. But nope, they allow him to go out and get Lindy Ruff.
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Buffalo needs to make changes. They need some vets.

Difficult to imagine that Power is a guy they are willing to move, but you never know.
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Buffalo needs to make changes. They need some vets.

Difficult to imagine that Power is a guy they are willing to move, but you never know.
Hard to imagine they would move any of their top 3 dmen and think they are improving the team. Same for Cozens, at least without getting back a proven centre as part of the trade.

I would expect they would want to add some proven vets to their existing core, not gut their core.

If Power was available, teams would line up to make an offer.
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Kevyn Adams sucks. Beefing with your star #1C and watching him go on to win the Cup while you have Peyton Krebs should have gotten him fired. But nope, they allow him to go out and get Lindy Ruff.
To be fair, Eichel was damaged goods when he was traded, and it was anybody's guess how well he would recover from his surgery. I believe the Sabres' decision not to give him the procedure he wanted came from higher up in the organization. Adams did the best he could with a really bad hand. I'm not saying a different GM couldn't have done better – but it was still a bad hand.

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Pospisil's injuries were treated by a vet?
no wonder he missed so much time.
He's a yoked Slovakian dude. You know who gets put in yokes? Oxen. You know who treats oxen? Vets. So it all makes perfect sense!
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To be fair, Eichel was damaged goods when he was traded, and it was anybody's guess how well he would recover from his surgery. I believe the Sabres' decision not to give him the procedure he wanted came from higher up in the organization. Adams did the best he could with a really bad hand. I'm not saying a different GM couldn't have done better – but it was still a bad hand.

And now, on the lighter side…



He's a yoked Slovakian dude. You know who gets put in yokes? Oxen. You know who treats oxen? Vets. So it all makes perfect sense!
Not sure he was damaged good, it's a surgery that is common in sports. Calgary was ok letting him get the artificial disk replacement surgery. Not sure why Buffalo would be so adamant he gets what they want.

When you have a #1C on your team, you probably should work in cohesion with them.
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Not sure he was damaged good, it's a surgery that is common in sports.
It was the first time it had ever been done on a professional hockey player.

In any case, my point remains: it was the owner, senior management, and the medical staff that decided the disc replacement was too great a risk. Not Adams' choice to be in that situation.
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It was the first time it had ever been done on a professional hockey player.

In any case, my point remains: it was the owner, senior management, and the medical staff that decided the disc replacement was too great a risk. Not Adams' choice to be in that situation.
First time for a lot of things.

Probably why Buffalo is consistency in the basement, and Vegas is one of the most aggressive teams in the NHL.
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I don't see the appeal on Cozens. And why trade for Power when the flames been loading up D.

If there's a panic move - I see Thompson going out which I think could be a goood fit.
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The Flames haven't been pulling up their talent for years. They've been signing useless vets to fill out roles that prospects should have been playing. I'd go as far to say that every prospect or draft pick post-2016, until Conroy took over, had their development stunted by the Flames reluctance to play their own prospects.

For example, we're talking about Pospisil like he's a great young prospect....he's turning 25. He could be out of his prime within a couple of years.
Who were the specific players that you think were kept in the AHL too long besides Pospisil?
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We talked about it in another thread, but the Sabres lack true centers, as most of their forwards are better suited to playing the wing-an exception being Dylan Cozens. If they trade him, they are very weak down the middle. Can’t see them trading Cozens, and if they traded Power, it would most likely be for a young top flight center +.
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