As if it's not enough to have the province and the city constantly changing transit plans, we've now also got to deal with rich Banff "philanthropists" telling us solutions. Which just happen to make their project viable, once us taxpayers foot the bills for the expensive bits.
Uh, except, you know, traversing downtown to enable the north green line? You know, the one that started this entire project, and the greatest need for transit in the city? That one? Did you solve it? No, you did not, you muppet. Pay full attention to the rapidly moving hand over here, while we pick your pocket and tell you you are pretty.
Said no one about an integrated (5?) line 150km transit project, ever.
They've got a website to push it, and video. Sure, why not. Handing off billions to billionaires to make millions more is a timed honoured tradition in this city/province. Why not connect one of those projects to another? can we get a cancelled pipeline in there, too? I'm sure it'll work out just fine for us.
The delusional hubris here is remarkable. This idea doesn't solve a single problem. An interim 4th St terminus kinda sucks, but the walk would be just fine at street level (only have to cross two moderately busy streets).
Disappointing to see just how detached from reality the Banff train is with these proponents. Because the economic benefits to the city would actually be immense (even if the fundamentals of the train project in isolation are a little weak)
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Y'all are on crack. Letting the Banff residents that own Liricon aka Waterous Energy Fund aka Waterous Family Office build a Calgary mass rapid transit line sounds like a fantastic idea.
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Did you miss the part where they are asking the province to build everything from the airport to 14 St SW? And like 1km worth of +15s...for some reason...
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Did you miss the part where they are asking the province to build everything from the airport to 14 St SW? And like 1km worth of +15s...for some reason...
Presumably "this couldn't be easier" is actually referring to bilking taxpayers into paying for a private companies infrastructure, and having them thank you for the favour. Perhaps she is right, in Alberta this really couldn't be easier.
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Did you miss the part where they are asking the province to build everything from the airport to 14 St SW? And like 1km worth of +15s...for some reason...
The delusional hubris here is remarkable. This idea doesn't solve a single problem. An interim 4th St terminus kinda sucks, but the walk would be just fine at street level (only have to cross two moderately busy streets).
Disappointing to see just how detached from reality the Banff train is with these proponents. Because the economic benefits to the city would actually be immense (even if the fundamentals of the train project in isolation are a little weak)
This is my fear of this whole mess is that they build the cheap and useless nose creek alignment to go airport to downtown
I am a big fan of the 10 ave SE green line alignment
This is my fear of this whole mess is that they build the cheap and useless nose creek alignment to go airport to downtown
I am a big fan of the 10 ave SE green line alignment
Nose Creek is probably less of a concern at this point as that op-ed from Waterous indicates they've made zero progress on YYC-DT, and that they are trying to pawn off that part of the project. I find it surprising that they seem to have no possibility of using the CP tracks from Bow River through DT. It seems there should have been ample ways to find mutual benefits across the whole project, but ultimately Liricon is entirely reliant on CPKC who has nothing to lose by doing nothing.
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Nose Creek is probably less of a concern at this point as that op-ed from Waterous indicates they've made zero progress on YYC-DT, and that they are trying to pawn off that part of the project. I find it surprising that they seem to have no possibility of using the CP tracks from Bow River through DT. It seems there should have been ample ways to find mutual benefits across the whole project, but ultimately Liricon is entirely reliant on CPKC who has nothing to lose by doing nothing.
The city had to deal with CPKC for the west line. Didn't we pay a couple hundred million to them for land?
Through downtown, that land likely becomes at least a billion dollars, if CPKC would even sell it for any price.
It's the same downtown stakeholders that got the Green Line to not consider the belt-line elevated option in the first place, resulting in the "saving" of <$200M of property value with billions more in construction cost.
To be honest, there wasn't a whole lot that CT could have done better. It is morning rush hour, and a line goes down -- it takes time to deploy additional busses from the terminal (even though Spring Gardens is nearby).
Some of these people were acting like animals.
They interviewed the one smiling guy at the end. "I've seen this before, in my home land!" "What country is that?" "Punjab".
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To be honest, there wasn't a whole lot that CT could have done better. It is morning rush hour, and a line goes down -- it takes time to deploy additional busses from the terminal (even though Spring Gardens is nearby).
Some of these people were acting like animals.
They interviewed the one smiling guy at the end. "I've seen this before, in my home land!" "What country is that?" "Punjab".
An average of 7 people die EVERY DAY in transit related incidents in Mumbai.
The city had to deal with CPKC for the west line. Didn't we pay a couple hundred million to them for land?
Through downtown, that land likely becomes at least a billion dollars, if CPKC would even sell it for any price.
I'm not sure on the details on that line; the one thing about land acquisition is there is often residual value if/when you go to sell it again (not sure that would be the case on the west).
But for this purpose its not about acquiring the land, it's contracting access to track. Though that only works for DT-Banff, not a higher frequency train to/from YYC.
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It's the same downtown stakeholders that got the Green Line to not consider the belt-line elevated option in the first place, resulting in the "saving" of <$200M of property value with billions more in construction cost.
Facepalm worthy to look at the numbers in context.
Also interesting how it notes it only applies to old buildings because of insulation/old windows...things that should probably be retrofit sooner or later anyways!
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