10-16-2024, 08:41 AM
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
It's when it is born. That's the distinction. It isn't a baby until it is out of the mother.
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
The fetal stage is from about the 8th week of pregnancy until the child is born.
The point it becomes a baby is when it's out of the mother. In the US, as per Roe vs. Wade (RIP), it is the point at which the fetus can survive outside the womb. Additionally, the Convention on the Rights of the Child, apply from birth and do not grant legal personhood to a fetus.
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Why then do you think Canadian provinces won't go past 24 weeks?
And yes I think the baby gets a "say" when the doctors deem them viable/savable, this is again, the 24 week threshold.
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10-16-2024, 08:41 AM
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#22302
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
I'm against MAID so I think they get a say too. I was just citing the differences people might argue.
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OK, so you prefer people to suffer in pain before death. That explains things...
Why is it Conservatives are so interested in seeing people suffer? I know the Big Book makes it a part of the fantasy story, but don't you find that just, I dunno, cruel? Like, I'm 90% sure I'm gonna want to access MAID at some point in my life, so this is a pretty important topic to me, particularly when people come out against it. How much pain and suffering is OK? All of it, I guess?
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10-16-2024, 08:43 AM
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#22303
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
Why would you be against someone with a terminal illness having a say in how they die?
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We were talking about non-responsive people.
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10-16-2024, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
And yes I think the baby gets a "say" when the doctors deem them viable/savable, this is again, the 24 week threshold.
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And again, they don't get a say. Third-party medical and legal definitions do.
I think you need to realize this is people making decisions for other people, just like MAID is the same situation. And you don't agree with MAID, so why do you agree with this?
I think you might be arguing that you value young life versus old, and it's OK to be honest about that if that's your perspective. I don't agree with it, but at least it's honest.
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10-16-2024, 08:59 AM
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#22305
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
We were talking about non-responsive people.
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What are you talking about, that isn't what MAID is for at all. The first rule of MAID is you need to be of sound mind to even start the process, someone in a coma or vegetative state would not qualify
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10-16-2024, 09:37 AM
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#22306
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Craig McTavish' Merkin
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
It's when it is born. That's the distinction. It isn't a baby until it is out of the mother.
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I know that's the medical definition but no one really uses that term outside of the context of abortion. Don't get me wrong, I'm 100% pro-choice and don't agree with anything GirlySports is saying, but using the term fetus at the point it could live and breathe on its own if it were to be delivered is weird to me.
But, as cheese posted, I don't think it matters what term you use. It's still the woman's choice, and the law should be clear on that.
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10-16-2024, 09:38 AM
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#22307
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Lifetime Suspension
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Hearing this morning Disco Don has turned 1–2-point deficits in the polls in all of the swing states in a to a very very small lead. 0.34% now.
Hopefully his behaviour this last few weeks can turn that around, but it seems to being going the opposite direction. Seriously WTF is going on in that country.
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10-16-2024, 09:46 AM
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#22308
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Lifetime Suspension
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1845313362621759996
I see no point in Harris trying to get these peoples votes. They are in a cult and no saving them.
Even Rogan was spreading conspiracy theories of Google scrubbing negative articles about Harris. And she wants to waste her time going on his roid session.
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10-16-2024, 09:55 AM
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#22309
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Hearing this morning Disco Don has turned 1–2-point deficits in the polls in all of the swing states in a to a very very small lead. 0.34% now.
Hopefully his behaviour this last few weeks can turn that around, but it seems to being going the opposite direction. Seriously WTF is going on in that country.
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His behaviour over his entire life hasn't had any negative impact, nothing over the last few weeks will either.
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10-16-2024, 09:58 AM
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#22310
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: wearing raccoons for boots
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Hearing this morning Disco Don has turned 1–2-point deficits in the polls in all of the swing states in a to a very very small lead. 0.34% now.
Hopefully his behaviour this last few weeks can turn that around, but it seems to being going the opposite direction. Seriously WTF is going on in that country.
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Was this one of the polls they used because it really isnt real when people dug into it, just some random right wing clowns.
PENNSYLVANIA @AmericanPulseUS Poll:
Trump 51% (+1)
Harris 50%
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Trump 49% (+1)
Harris 48%
Stein 2%
Oliver 0%
1,193 LV, 10/2
Seriously how do you get 51 and 50 in a poll?
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10-16-2024, 10:04 AM
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#22311
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by activeStick
His behaviour over his entire life hasn't had any negative impact, nothing over the last few weeks will either.
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Well yeah, he has been a nut his entire life, but shutting down a town hall randomly to listen to music and stand? Seeing him get absolutely owned yesterday in front of a bunch of CEOs, and claim he was doing a weave.
Seeing him decline in real time like he has, how does one say YUP that's the guy I want to run the country. 78 years old, obviously his mental state is in complete decline.
The amount of people who do not understand tariffs is troubling. Some of that stuff is going to have a trickle down to us and impact us.
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10-16-2024, 10:04 AM
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#22312
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by puffnstuff
Was this one of the polls they used because it really isnt real when people dug into it, just some random right wing clowns.
PENNSYLVANIA @AmericanPulseUS Poll:
Trump 51% (+1)
Harris 50%
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Trump 49% (+1)
Harris 48%
Stein 2%
Oliver 0%
1,193 LV, 10/2
Seriously how do you get 51 and 50 in a poll?
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It was on a NPR podcast, not sure who they cited I will have to check again.
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10-16-2024, 10:09 AM
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#22313
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Well yeah, he has been a nut his entire life, but shutting down a town hall randomly to listen to music and stand? Seeing him get absolutely owned yesterday in front of a bunch of CEOs, and claim he was doing a weave.
Seeing him decline in real time like he has, how does one say YUP that's the guy I want to run the country. 78 years old, obviously his mental state is in complete decline.
The amount of people who do not understand tariffs is troubling. Some of that stuff is going to have a trickle down to us and impact us.
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Is shutting down a town hall randomly to listen to music going to sway things when people also know he took home classified documents to his Mar-a-lago estate which he's not allowed to do?
Does Trump getting owned in front of a bunch of CEOs change anything, when it's been confirmed he asked the military to shoot at civilian protestors when he was President?
Did seeing Biden declining when he was still the candidate for the Dems sway any of the Democrat voters to not support Biden when the plan was to have him continue and run for re-election?
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10-16-2024, 10:35 AM
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#22314
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by activeStick
Is shutting down a town hall randomly to listen to music going to sway things when people also know he took home classified documents to his Mar-a-lago estate which he's not allowed to do?
Does Trump getting owned in front of a bunch of CEOs change anything, when it's been confirmed he asked the military to shoot at civilian protestors when he was President?
Did seeing Biden declining when he was still the candidate for the Dems sway any of the Democrat voters to not support Biden when the plan was to have him continue and run for re-election?
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To your last point - Yes, especially post debate when his popularity cratered.
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10-16-2024, 10:52 AM
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#22315
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Cranbrook
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Originally Posted by puffnstuff
Was this one of the polls they used because it really isnt real when people dug into it, just some random right wing clowns.
PENNSYLVANIA @AmericanPulseUS Poll:
Trump 51% (+1)
Harris 50%
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Trump 49% (+1)
Harris 48%
Stein 2%
Oliver 0%
1,193 LV, 10/2
Seriously how do you get 51 and 50 in a poll?
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50.50 rounds up to 51, 49.50 founds up to 50.
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10-16-2024, 10:53 AM
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#22316
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by activeStick
Did seeing Biden declining when he was still the candidate for the Dems sway any of the Democrat voters to not support Biden when the plan was to have him continue and run for re-election?
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Well... yes, obviously. That's why Harris is now running instead. 
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10-16-2024, 11:07 AM
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#22318
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
The amount of people who do not understand tariffs is troubling. Some of that stuff is going to have a trickle down to us and impact us.
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Yep. Reminds me of the instant Brexit regret many people had.
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10-16-2024, 11:07 AM
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#22319
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Lifetime Suspension
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This honestly feels like Bush vs Gore all over again. If Trump wins, he wins. If Harris wins this is going to the courts, I can't see Trump taking a slim defeat and just going away.
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