2024 Off-season trade rumours and speculation thread

[McG]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Panthers have a few prospects I would be interested in:

Simon Zether: 6’3” center who is quite underrated.
Jack Devine: RW who has put up impressive numbers in college. He’s American though, so he would be pissed.
Linus Eriksson: Love this kid, details-oriented two-way C. Many had him pegged for the first round in the draft.
Gracyn Sawchyn: Energetic WHL center that most of us are familiar with.
Vlad Lukashevich: Offensive D who was one of the best in the USHL last year.

Conroy to Zito: well yes I want them all. I got more from the Canucks for a UFA!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Yes, Kadri didn’t break out until he was 31 and signed with the Flames when he was 32 not 30

Not counting salary has gone up in 3 yrs. Bennett at 7M is a deal. Someone will pay it easily

Well, picky me says on his signing date he was 31 (but he did turn 32 at the beginning of the season). When Bennett signs he will be 29. But he will be that age all season.

BUT Bennett topped out 3 years ago at 49 points in 71 games. Kadri had 87 points in 71 games when the Flames signed him. He had 75 last season. He's a better player than Bennett.

[The Cobra]

I can't seriously believe that anyone would seriously consider signing Bennett for $7M over each of 7 years would be a good deal.

Certainly the regular season Bennett is worth no where close to that.

Now playoff Bennett is a thing.

He's like Dave Bolland, who was a playoff beast for the Hawks during 2 Stanley Cup runs.

Boland lasted until he was 29 but he was basically done at 26.

Players like that don't last very long.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by McG

Conroy to Zito: well yes I want them all. I got more from the Canucks for a UFA!

I’m still shocked we swindled Bru out of that deal…

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I’m still shocked we swindled Bru out of that deal…

Multiple choice…

(a) We traded Lindholm for Kuzmenko.
‘OK, I can see that. A UFA who wanted out for a reclamation project who can at least score. Let's see how it works out. Maybe we can flip Kuzmenko for assets later.’

(b) We traded Lindholm for Jurmo.
‘Meh. A rental for a project. Don't like it, but maybe Jurmo will be a player.’

(c) We traded Lindholm for Brzustewicz.
‘Not bad! Exciting D prospect with plenty of upside. I think we win this deal in the long run, especially if Lindholm walks.’

(d) We traded Lindholm for a 1st.
‘Not bad for a rental that we clearly weren't re-signing. First-round picks are always good to have.’

(e) We traded Lindholm for all of the above, plus a conditional 4th. And then Lindholm sucked in Vancouver and walked at the end of the year.
‘!’

(Edit: And the conditional 4th turned into Luke Misa and Eric Jamieson. The Dougie Hamilton trade tree is going to be utterly crazy by the time it finally peters out.)

[Johnny Makarov]

Boston will want a refund after seeing 'playoff' Lindy... lol

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by bluejays

@Royle, what could Florida offer which could be compelling? Draft picks appear to be low given their place in the standings. Not sure what prospects they have of value either. Why not to a more borderline team?

I would be fine with the return being very pick-heavy from Florida if their prospects are not high value.

How about this?

To Florida:
Andersson

To Calgary:
2025 2nd round pick
2026 1st round pick (lottery protected)
2026 2nd round pick (becomes a lottery-protected 1st round pick in 2027 if they make the conference finals in 2026)
2027 3rd round pick

[The Boy Wonder]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I can't seriously believe that anyone would seriously consider signing Bennett for $7M over each of 7 years would be a good deal.

Certainly the regular season Bennett is worth no where close to that.

Now playoff Bennett is a thing.

He's like Dave Bolland, who was a playoff beast for the Hawks during 2 Stanley Cup runs.

Boland lasted until he was 29 but he was basically done at 26.

Players like that don't last very long.

Sam Bennett is leading the panthers in goals this season and has looked decent. Don’t think you’ve watched any panthers games the past few years.

Bennett is worth every cent of $7m

I’d suggest you go and look at the highest paid players in the league, do a little sort and look at some of the objectively average players making more than $7m.

Bennet also skates better than bolland or any of “those types” of players, which tends to be what gets them more than anything.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Leads the team in goals this season ? It’s been 2 games.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

Sam Bennett is leading the panthers in goals this season and has looked decent.

Holy small sample size.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Multiple choice…

(a) We traded Lindholm for Kuzmenko.
‘OK, I can see that. A UFA who wanted out for a reclamation project who can at least score. Let's see how it works out. Maybe we can flip Kuzmenko for assets later.’

(b) We traded Lindholm for Jurmo.
‘Meh. A rental for a project. Don't like it, but maybe Jurmo will be a player.’

(c) We traded Lindholm for Brzustewicz.
‘Not bad! Exciting D prospect with plenty of upside. I think we win this deal in the long run, especially if Lindholm walks.’

(d) We traded Lindholm for a 1st.
‘Not bad for a rental that we clearly weren't re-signing. First-round picks are always good to have.’

(e) We traded Lindholm for all of the above, plus a conditional 4th. And then Lindholm sucked in Vancouver and walked at the end of the year.
‘!’

(Edit: And the conditional 4th turned into Luke Misa and Eric Jamieson. The Dougie Hamilton trade tree is going to be utterly crazy by the time it finally peters out.)

Out of thanks, but this is an excellent post.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I would be fine with the return being very pick-heavy from Florida if their prospects are not high value.

How about this?

To Florida:
Andersson

To Calgary:
2025 2nd round pick
2026 1st round pick (lottery protected)
2026 2nd round pick (becomes a lottery-protected 1st round pick in 2027 if they make the conference finals in 2026)
2027 3rd round pick

To me that would be ideal but I don't think Andersson gets you that package. 1st, 2nd would be likely (2nd ideal if it's someone else's higher pick). I'm not sure I'd even want that though. I just wouldn't think Florida would be a best trade partner in this case. Ideally I'd want him to a borderline playoff team, to get the same thing or a solid prospect akin to a Honzek and a 2nd.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I can't seriously believe that anyone would seriously consider signing Bennett for $7M over each of 7 years would be a good deal.

Certainly the regular season Bennett is worth no where close to that.

Now playoff Bennett is a thing.

He's like Dave Bolland, who was a playoff beast for the Hawks during 2 Stanley Cup runs.

Boland lasted until he was 29 but he was basically done at 26.

Players like that don't last very long.

Agreed completely. Bennett at best is a 2nd line player. He doesn't have the skill to be relied upon too heavily game in and out. To offer term and price to a 2nd line (at best), player, is crazy talk. It's exactly what gets lazy GMs fired.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Agreed completely. Bennett at best is a 2nd line player. He doesn't have the skill to be relied upon too heavily game in and out. To offer term and price to a 2nd line (at best), player, is crazy talk. It's exactly what gets lazy GMs fired.

I think it’s even more important to consider how players like him (physical, fast and aggressive) usually regress pretty quickly into their early 30s. Obviously there are exceptions, but they generally fall off very quickly. So any team that signs him would have to be prepared for that… I would think you might get 2-3 years max of the current version of Bennett. That just doesn’t fit into the flames timeline.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I think it’s even more important to consider how players like him (physical, fast and aggressive) usually regress pretty quickly into their early 30s. Obviously there are exceptions, but they generally fall off very quickly. So any team that signs him would have to be prepared for that… I would think you might get 2-3 years max of the current version of Bennett. That just doesn’t fit into the flames timeline.

Yup. Great player to have if you're in your window, and it's even worth signing him long-term if that's what it takes to have his best years. But not what the Flames need at this time.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Boston will want a refund after seeing 'playoff' Lindy... lol

Lindholm was pretty decent for the Canucks in the playoffs

Regular season stunk

[Harry Lime]

Is the 27 draft the Dupont year? I would take a lot of value from an unprotected 1st and hope for a playoff miss that year. That and Gracyn Sawichyn (sp) and I'd be good for Anderson.

If Florida repeats, that's a win-win even if calgary ends up with a lottery jump.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Royle9

This is what I’ve heard too.
Florida is very high on Bennett and his skill set.
Not so much with Ekblad, he’s been a bit on the outs going back to last year.

Bennett is extremely liked by both the Florida players and coaches, they will move heaven and earth to keep him.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

29 Year Old Stanley Cup Champion Sam Bennett > 32 Year Old Stanley Cup Champion Nazem Kadri

I'm not saying that with any shade whatsoever on Kadri. You also have to remember Kadri had himself a crazy contract season in that final year while he won the Stanley Cup.

Sam Bennett is now in that contract year, is 3 years younger than Kadri was at the time, and hey...has 3 points in the first 2 games of the season.

Look out. Sam is going to get paid, and I'd expect it to be in that $8M range (or slightly above), and yes - he is absolutely worth it. Only way it ends up in the 7s is if it's an 8 year deal with Florida. If we're talking a 7 year deal, it'll be above $8M (assuming he has a decent contract year).

Bennett is everything you want in a player, unless you're the worst coached team in the league and management trusts their horrendous coaching hires.

[Ragnar]

Bennett has never hit 50 points and people want to pay him more than Kadri?