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Old 10-02-2024, 04:18 PM   #14261
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It passed then?
it was non binding vote

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It passed then?
The Bloc is apparently ready to take down the government next week if no substantive effort is put forward by the Liberals.
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The Bloc can't take down the government, unless the NDP agree. Which they won't right now.
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* redacting as I was thinking of the other bill

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Old 10-02-2024, 06:23 PM   #14265
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It passed then?
There seems to be some confusion with the bill* myself included.

C-319 was already passed last year but because it requires the government to spend, it also needs royal recommendation.

This vote was to push the government to expedite the royal recommendation to get this passed in law. Note that it can still be held up in the senate (as far as I understand it still needs to go through it).

Liberals voted against it last year, all other parties, including the Conservatives passed it. Likewise, all parties today voted on the motion, while Liberals (including Han Dong) voted against it.

Liberals are dead set against it, citing it as an opposition bill and not a government bill. They have been pushing hard to not have it being law as it would destroy their upcoming budget.

* Got mixed up with the other BQ bill, where Liberal appointed "independent" senators have been holding it in limbo in the senate.

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Old 10-02-2024, 06:49 PM   #14266
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I was just asking for clarification as to whether or not the motion was passed by a majority.
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What is going on in the House, Scheer came out yesterday and stated that the speaker had suspended all house business until documents were passed over from the Liberals concerning the green fund and Randy Boissenent (sp?).


So no votes or no debates?


I don't recall when the speaker has ever shut down the house. Maybe someone who is smarter can pipe in.


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What is going on in the House, Scheer came out yesterday and stated that the speaker had suspended all house business until documents were passed over from the Liberals concerning the green fund and Randy Boissenent (sp?).


So no votes or no debates?


I don't recall when the speaker has ever shut down the house. Maybe someone who is smarter can pipe in.


https://twitter.com/user/status/1841580450176749937
Oh, me! I’m smart

A good rule of thumb is to remember that Scheer is a lying dweeb with the charisma of bagged milk, so best to just automatically disregard anything he says.

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Barring a sudden surge of cross-aisle cooperation — which, while not unprecedented, seems highly unlikely given the current tone in the chamber — it looks like regular House of Commons business will once again be effectively put on hold as MPs mull over the next steps in dealing with not just one but two potential violations of parliamentary privilege.

(As per longstanding parliamentary protocol — and not, contrary to an exuberant X post from the Conservative house leader yesterday afternoon, because “Liberal corruption has gotten so bad, the speaker has ruled that all other business must be suspended until the scandal is investigated” — debates over matters of privilege automatically take precedence over nearly all other House proceedings, although not, it’s worth noting, the one-hour block reserved for members’ statements and question period.)
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Brings back that image of him chugging milk from a pint glass at a pub.

Pub milk.

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What is going on in the House, Scheer came out yesterday and stated that the speaker had suspended all house business until documents were passed over from the Liberals concerning the green fund and Randy Boissenent (sp?).


So no votes or no debates?


I don't recall when the speaker has ever shut down the house. Maybe someone who is smarter can pipe in.


https://twitter.com/user/status/1841580450176749937
There was something raised last week after question period that the Speaker was supposed to rule on, which I'm assuming this is related to, regarding information that Randy's business partner was supposed to provide this summer. He missed the deadlines and has been stonewalling the committee so they want to find him in contempt of parliament. I think that the business partner and Randy B were supposed to turnover all their phone records by the end of the summer which never happened.
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Ottawa -- Government business has been put on indefinite pause in the House of Commons and the Conservatives say it will stay that way until the Liberals hand over documents related to misspent government dollars.

Last week, Speaker Greg Fergus ruled that the government "clearly did not fully comply" with an order from the House to provide documents related to a now-defunct foundation responsible for doling out hundreds of millions of federal dollars for green technology projects.
The House has been seized by an indefinite debate on the issue ever since, and Conservative House Leader Andrew Scheer says it will continue until the government hands over the unredacted documents.
The government abolished Sustainable Development Technology Canada after both the auditor general released a scathing report about the organization's management.
Liberal House Leader Karina Gould says ordering the production of documents to be handed over to the RCMP blurs the lines between Parliament and police.
The Liberals have had to postpone a vote on government tax reform twice while the debate drags on in the House.
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A good rule of thumb is to remember that Scheer is a lying dweeb with the charisma of bagged milk, so best to just automatically disregard anything he says.



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So let me get this.

"regular House of Commons business will once again be effectively put on hold" due to "dealing with not just one but two potential violations of parliamentary privilege"

This putting on hold is a result of "longstanding parliamentary protocol" as per the reporter.

Those "one but two" potential violations of parliamentary privilege that is causing this "longstanding parliamentary protocol" to occur are both Liberal corruption scandals and both involve failing to provide necessary documents. "clearly did not fully comply" is the words used by the Speaker referring to the government.

Scheer is a dweeb for stating this seizing of the house of commons is happening as a result of Liberal corruption instead of using "longstanding parliamentary protocol" (even though said protocol being used is as a result of said Liberal corruption).

Thanks for the clarification
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13,000 students claiming to be refugees?! No #### the Immigration Minister that used to the be Housing Minister should be worried lol. Trudeau is right, things are out of control.

https://immigration.ca/canada-aims-t...ackdoor-entry/

Canada Aims To End Use Of International Student Program As Backdoor Entry

Using data from Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC), journalists with the broadcaster determined 12,915 of those who filed for refugee status in Canada in the first eight months of this year already had study permits or study permit extensions.

That’s a 752 per cent increase in the number of asylum claimants who had study permits or study permit extensions during the first eight months of this year compared to the Globe & Mail’s reported 1,515 who had such permits and permit extensions who applied for refugee status in the entirety or 2018.

Immigration Minister Marc Miller is reportedly worried that many foreign nationals are using the international student program as a “backdoor entry into Canada.”



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So let me get this.

"regular House of Commons business will once again be effectively put on hold" due to "dealing with not just one but two potential violations of parliamentary privilege"

This putting on hold is a result of "longstanding parliamentary protocol" as per the reporter.

Those "one but two" potential violations of parliamentary privilege that is causing this "longstanding parliamentary protocol" to occur are both Liberal corruption scandals and both involve failing to provide necessary documents. "clearly did not fully comply" is the words used by the Speaker referring to the government.

Scheer is a dweeb for stating this seizing of the house of commons is happening as a result of Liberal corruption instead of using "longstanding parliamentary protocol" (even though said protocol being used is as a result of said Liberal corruption).

Thanks for the clarification
The language can be confusing at time. I was trying to get a balanced understanding of it all. I am still unsure honestly
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So let me get this.

"regular House of Commons business will once again be effectively put on hold" due to "dealing with not just one but two potential violations of parliamentary privilege"

This putting on hold is a result of "longstanding parliamentary protocol" as per the reporter.

Those "one but two" potential violations of parliamentary privilege that is causing this "longstanding parliamentary protocol" to occur are both Liberal corruption scandals and both involve failing to provide necessary documents. "clearly did not fully comply" is the words used by the Speaker referring to the government.

Scheer is a dweeb for stating this seizing of the house of commons is happening as a result of Liberal corruption instead of using "longstanding parliamentary protocol" (even though said protocol being used is as a result of said Liberal corruption).

Thanks for the clarification
Close. He’s a dweeb because it has nothing to do with how “bad” it’s gotten. It’s just the protocol, and he knows exactly how it works because the two motions that triggered that protocol were put forth by Conservatives.

- Conservatives put forth two motions concerning potential privilege violations
- Protocol states that motions concerning potential privilege violations automatically take precedence
- Scheer lies and says the speaker ruled that all other business must be suspended because “Liberal corruption has gotten so bad” when in actuality it was suspended because the Conservatives put forth two motions which automatically suspended all other business

Hope this helps.
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LOL. PP given the dunce cap and told to go sit in the corner and think about what he did wrong. Which was trying to tell a women that her words weren't the words he wanted her to say. Can't see secret documents, can't speak in parliament. True leadership.



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I can't believe that person is going to be our next PM. He's terrible already and hasn't even won the election. Lucky us.
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Liberal scandals for 9 years the lemmings complaining about the opposition.
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Liberal scandals for 9 years the lemmings complaining about the opposition.
Yes, heaven forbid we had hoped the replacement in waiting was not going to be a total dunderhead.
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This 'lemming' is a Canadian citizen and voter and was hoping that maybe just one candidate next election would be worthy of my vote.

PP is terrible. Doesn't mean the Liberals are great or anything else. They're all terrible. I guess I just feel this country deserves better.
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