[News] UPD: Schwindt claimed by VGK. Pelletier and Cooley clear waivers

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

We have a silly over-filled group of forwards.

There's some risk in this decision, but I'm not really sure how much. Pelletier was a later 1st round pick with no real standout skill, and as an undersized player...I certainly haven't seen anything that makes him stand out.

That aside, it's still silly that we have the group of forwards we do and we're picking some of those players over the youth and (limited?) upside of Pelletier.

Kevin Rooney is a non-factor in the long-term outlook of this team. Even if you go back to free agency, Mantha and Lomberg were signed to what end? Should have been another spot for a young player.

This move strikes me as the Flames overvaluing this idea of being 'competitive' every night at the expense of growing a team from the ground up. Losing a couple more games a year isn't going to nuke the 'culture', but winning a few more games will nuke the potential that the end state of this roster actually carries.

Pelletier? Likely an inconsequential player...but no more inconsequential than some of the other riff raff this bloated roster is carrying, so it's a bummer to see them side with a Rooney rather than a Pelletier.

They are not the same player though. Rooney is slotted in as a 4th line center and Pelletier isn’t. He’s a first round pick and with that comes different expectations. He didn’t live up to them. It’s not the first time it has happened. The Flames have a number of young forwards coming in the next few years. It’s not the end of the world.

[sureLoss]

Confirmed

https://twitter.com/user/status/1842989780281524625

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Royle9

There’s definitely interest, I could see him being claimed.

That said, unfortunately for Jacob he’s been passed up by a number of prospects and his injuries derailed his season last year. If Jacob wanted to be a flame he would have taken the 2 way deal from Calgary but he wanted the NHL minutes and money so you can’t blame him there. again his pre-season play just wasn’t enough, he needs at least a half season in the AHL.

Right, but what about the offers you said they were getting on him? Makes no sense to waive him if he had some value.

[agulati]

Sad day, if he gets claimed. Injuries really derailed his career and confidence. Feels like Valimaki all over again

[Cali Panthers Fan]

If you look around the league, it's not uncommon for late first round or 2nd round picks to not be good enough to crack the league by the time they become waiver eligible. He's not the first and he won't be the last.

If some team wants to take a chance on him, that's fair play. This, along with the salary cap, is how talent gets redistributed throughout the league. If he's good enough on another team that claims him, great, then he finally earned an NHL job, but I have my doubts. The fact remains that many waiver claims usually go back on waivers within a year or so. There's a reason a lot of players pass through waivers.

Don't sweat it. We have plenty of players in the organization that are already better than Pelletier at a younger age. Just let the process play itself out.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

If you took the team to read posts from Royle9, who appears to have connections, you would see a post by royle saying they were getting offers for Pelletier. So my question to royle9 was why would they not take an offer instead of waiving him for nothing? If the offers were a 7th round pick and the org thinks the risk of waiving him and sneaking him through outweighs the value of a 7th round pick that’s one thing. But if indeed there were firm offers out there and they choose to waive him, that’s hard to stomach as a fan of a team that has a track record of losing assets for nothing and have been bitten in the a$$ as a result of poor asset management.

Maybe the offer was taking another failing prospect back.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by agulati

sad day, if he gets claimed. Injuries really derailed his career and confidence. Feels like valimaki all over again

100%

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Maybe the offer was taking another failing prospect back.

There were no offer period

[CFO]

I would be very surprised if he dies not get claimed. I don't understand the rationale here. Worst case keep him as 13th forward (regardless of playing time).

Unless flames are doing him a favour and he asked to be waived instead press box.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Official now

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Maybe the offer was taking another failing prospect back.

Or a contract they don’t want.

Would you take Josh Anderson and a 2nd or 3rd round pick, as an example?

[Naitix]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

What if they have 100% decided he is really no good?

It’s been over 5 yrs

And he’s been good 4 out of those 5 years. I just think throwing away an asset after one bad year is short sighted. Especially when there is no reason to do that, this team is not supposed to compete for anything this year

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Right, but what about the offers you said they were getting on him? Makes no sense to waive him if he had some value.

The difference between there's interest and the trade offer you want inside your mind is greater then what reality offers.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

If you took the team to read posts from Royle9, who appears to have connections, you would see a post by royle saying they were getting offers for Pelletier. So my question to royle9 was why would they not take an offer instead of waiving him for nothing? If the offers were a 7th round pick and the org thinks the risk of waiving him and sneaking him through outweighs the value of a 7th round pick that’s one thing. But if indeed there were firm offers out there and they choose to waive him, that’s hard to stomach as a fan of a team that has a track record of losing assets for nothing and have been bitten in the a$$ as a result of poor asset management.

If you took the time to read my post (I’m making assumptions just like you did so don’t get mad), you would have seen that I said
“ Obviously they were offered a pick and decided to take nothing instead”

[cam_calderon]

Originally Posted by Naitix

And he’s been good 4 out of those 5 years. I just think throwing away an asset after one bad year is short sighted. Especially when there is no reason to do that, this team is not supposed to compete for anything this year

Just to clarify, whose spot would Pelletier take?

[sureLoss]

Cooley and Schwindt on waivers too

https://twitter.com/user/status/1842992196561359081

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Naitix

And he’s been good 4 out of those 5 years. I just think throwing away an asset after one bad year is short sighted. Especially when there is no reason to do that, this team is not supposed to compete for anything this year

Ryan Suzuki drafted a couple spots below Pelletier is also waived

That’s what team do after so many years

[Toonage]

Posted elsewhere but its odd that they kept Hanley

[devo22]

no Hanley? Even if you go 13+8, I doubt anyone would have picked him up.

[topfiverecords]

So that means Honzek and Klapka make the opening roster? How many players are left up?