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Old 09-26-2024, 02:13 PM   #6001
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Compare McDavid to Crosby in the Finals:

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Old 09-26-2024, 02:15 PM   #6002
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This doesn't look like a camera just happened to catch him 'being a leader', it looks very manufactured. It's been cut and edited.

It also isn't the first video attempting to show him as a leader, there have been several attempts. It just feels like there is a conscious plot to portray him in a certain light. It all just feels weird, and only increases the perceived awkwardness.
Didn't the description of the video literally say it was from an upcoming NHL Prime show (gag).
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Old 09-26-2024, 03:30 PM   #6003
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Look, I don't care about McDavid as a leader, or his sad hobo look. I'm enjoying for the moment that the Oilers are getting trashed in the preseason.



Yeah, you heard me.


I know its the preseason, but its the little things you know.



I'm still sticking to my guns that the Oilers are going to be the leagues biggest dissapointment this year, and they'll just miss the playoffs in the last week of the season.


Draisaitl with his new contract and huge money security, by the end of the year, he'll look more like Fat Albert then a pissy faced super store.
Connor will start playing for his new contract elsewhere, ignoring the coach, hogging the ice time, trying to play all the positions on the powerplay.
Nurse will look more like a $1.25 bargain bin broken action figure then a $9 million dollar plus NHL player.
Skinner will vanish over the wall in the middle of the night half way through the season, after the Oilers realize that getting rid of any good defensive presence up front has lead to a nervous twitchy faced mess in net. We will next see Skinner driving a cab in Mexico under the name of Boaty McBoatface, oh and he'll be a serial killer.

By Jan of this year the biggest question won't be, "will the Oilers win the cup?" or "Will they make the playoffs?" but "Can this fricken team add some cleaning staff to this arena the whole place smells like pee".


That is all.
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The culture around that team just looks awful.

Entitled country club that goes as far as the two guys will take them. Free agents flocking there to also ride McAgingLikeMilk's coattails to a cup inscription.

I think they truly won't GAF about putting in the work until about November. But this time hopefully they don't claw back into it and come up short.
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I don’t think that there’s a team that fawns over its own press clippings and stats quite like the Oilers.
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I don’t think that there’s a team that fawns over its own press clippings and stats quite like the Oilers.
Huffing their own farts has been an oilers thing since the mid 80s. Nobody does it better or with more dedication.
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So for the hell of it, I fired up NHL 2024 and started a new Franchise up. For those who don't know, it's the mode that lets you GM a team (trade, draft, sign, etc etc) for up to 25 years (you can get fired lol).

Before starting it I made some adjustments to the roster... Markstrom and Mangiapane to NJD and WSH... Kyl to COL... Mantha, Bahl, etc in... Also I released Dube (dropped him to the Free Agent pool). Although, as I type this out, I realize now that also means I don't have Dube's cap hit - which is kind of cheating...

Anyway, I'm manually simming each game one at a time, period by period... First game against the Oilers, who scores their second goal? Dube. Because of course EDM would be the team that signs him.

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Compare McDavid to Crosby in the Finals:

Absolute legend.
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So for the hell of it, I fired up NHL 2024 and started a new Franchise up. For those who don't know, it's the mode that lets you GM a team (trade, draft, sign, etc etc) for up to 25 years (you can get fired lol).

Before starting it I made some adjustments to the roster... Markstrom and Mangiapane to NJD and WSH... Kyl to COL... Mantha, Bahl, etc in... Also I released Dube (dropped him to the Free Agent pool). Although, as I type this out, I realize now that also means I don't have Dube's cap hit - which is kind of cheating...

Anyway, I'm manually simming each game one at a time, period by period... First game against the Oilers, who scores their second goal? Dube. Because of course EDM would be the team that signs him.
That feels.. prophetic.
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Old 09-27-2024, 12:39 PM   #6010
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I know I say it a lot. But I think he's the best player to ever lace 'em up.

And he has just the most lethal back-hand.
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I know I say it a lot. But I think he's the best player to ever lace 'em up.

And he has just the most lethal back-hand.
He is oddly one of the most under-rated players of all time.
Where does he stand? Top 5?

You've got Gretzky, Orr, Lemieux.
Comparisons across eras becomes hard, but do you put him at #4? I might.
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He is oddly one of the most under-rated players of all time.
Where does he stand? Top 5?

You've got Gretzky, Orr, Lemieux.
Comparisons across eras becomes hard, but do you put him at #4? I might.
I know the stats.

I know the differences in eras.

But for me? #1.

He's just so good. At everything.

Elite skater, Elite shot, World-Class backhand, face-off taker and his compete level and leadership go without saying.

He's won it all when its all been at it's most difficult to win.

I hated his whiny ass when he started. But he got better.

And then just kept getting better and better and better.
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He is oddly one of the most under-rated players of all time.
Where does he stand? Top 5?

You've got Gretzky, Orr, Lemieux.
Comparisons across eras becomes hard, but do you put him at #4? I might.
He's won more cups than anyone in the Salary Cap Era right? He is 10th all time in points, soon to be 9th. He's won two Olympic golds in the period where it was the worlds most competitive tournament. He was the face of the league in its period of largest growth. He played in two era's the end of the clutch and grab head shot era, and this new skill based era, and dominated in both.

Odds are he has 4 seasons left in him, another cup, another gold medal isn't totally out of the question he may wind up in the top 5 points all time. I'd say he is top 4 without a doubt. By the time he is done he may be the 2nd greatest ever.
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He's won more cups than anyone in the Salary Cap Era right? He is 10th all time in points, soon to be 9th. He's won two Olympic golds in the period where it was the worlds most competitive tournament. He was the face of the league in its period of largest growth. He played in two era's the end of the clutch and grab head shot era, and this new skill based era, and dominated in both.

Odds are he has 4 seasons left in him, another cup, another gold medal isn't totally out of the question he may wind up in the top 5 points all time. I'd say he is top 4 without a doubt. By the time he is done he may be the 2nd greatest ever.
Behind McDiver?
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He is oddly one of the most under-rated players of all time.
Where does he stand? Top 5?

You've got Gretzky, Orr, Lemieux.
Comparisons across eras becomes hard, but do you put him at #4? I might.

That's tough for me, because Howe for me has to be in the top 5 as does Richard.
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Behind McDiver?
McDavid is participating in the same category as Hull, Bossy Ovechkin and Mathews. Who which were the deadliest offensive talents.

Mcavi is currently 3rd all time in ppg ( crosby is 8th), but he will need some championships before he can enter the greatest of all time debates. Olympics or Otherwise. Moreover, we will need to see how he does after the age of 30. Lots of players rack up points in their prime 23-28. but what they do after is often their legacy. Well that and championships.
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I have Crosby at 4

Scoring dipped to right at the lowest point starting in 97/98. 2.64 goals per game, the 3rd lowest per game scoring since the 60's.

Gretzky in 97/98 at age 37 had 90 points, Sid had 90 points at the same age, but scoring last year was similar to scoring in the early 90's

Mario played quite a few years in the dead puck era. He seems to put up around 1.5 PPG in the time when he was well past his prime.

Orr was a dman, what he did was amazing even if the league double in size and created a huge imbalance in talent from 6 teams vs the other 6 teams.

Sid is #4 to me
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Old 09-27-2024, 01:17 PM   #6018
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I know it's just the pre season, but I think this is funny:

In all their last 3 pre-season games the Oilers have given up 6 goals.

They have played 6 different goalies.

3 have given up 4 or more goals
None have a SV% above 0.855 (Skinner is best at 0.852)

Ah crap, I did it wrong, and missed their first game.
I've fixed it now.
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Peak Crosby was so good that he fooled people into thinking Chris Kunitz was Olympic material. Think about that.
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He's won more cups than anyone in the Salary Cap Era right?
Well. He and all the other guys who were in Pittsburgh for all three (Malkin, Letang, Fleury).
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