Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Geraldsh

Are you in the room or out?
I think your spellchecker is messing with you.

In the room

[Red Slinger]

Unfortunately, I was stuck in a room with Tom Flanagan as he was my prof at U of C for a PoliSci class. This was right around the time that him and his Reform buddies were in the planning stages of permanently injuring political discourse in Canada. He has been one of the guys that's given the Reform/Wild Rose/UCP movement in Canada the guise of intellectual cover. When someone talks about Universities being breading grounds for liberalism, Tom Flanagan and the 90's U of C campus is an example of just the opposite. So many indoctrinated idiots came out of there: Harper, Danielle Smith, Rob Anders, Ezra Levant, W. Brett Wilson, Pierre Poilievre, David Bercuson (who's son was my friend), etc.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Tom Flanagan?

this Tom Flanagan?



https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...ld-pornography

This should be grounds to investigate this guy and his home computers, etc.

Little doubt he is engaged with and/or trafficking child porn. What a piece of ####. If this guy needs to be explained the nuance difference of an adult vs. A child he should not be in government and this should actually be legally disqualifying to have a job in government.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

Unfortunately, I was stuck in a room with Tom Flanagan as he was my prof at U of C for a PoliSci class. This was right around the time that him and his Reform buddies were in the planning stages of permanently injuring political discourse in Canada. He has been one of the guys that's given the Reform/Wild Rose/UCP movement in Canada the guise of intellectual cover. When someone talks about Universities being breading grounds for liberalism, Tom Flanagan and the 90's U of C campus is an example of just the opposite. So many indoctrinated idiots came out of there: Harper, Danielle Smith, Rob Anders, Ezra Levant, W. Brett Wilson, Pierre Poilievre, David Bercuson (who's son was my friend), etc.

But also Nenshi. It’s a really interesting period of time that someone should do a deep dive into.

[FLAMESRULE]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

Unfortunately, I was stuck in a room with Tom Flanagan as he was my prof at U of C for a PoliSci class. This was right around the time that him and his Reform buddies were in the planning stages of permanently injuring political discourse in Canada. He has been one of the guys that's given the Reform/Wild Rose/UCP movement in Canada the guise of intellectual cover. When someone talks about Universities being breading grounds for liberalism, Tom Flanagan and the 90's U of C campus is an example of just the opposite. So many indoctrinated idiots came out of there: Harper, Danielle Smith, Rob Anders, Ezra Levant, W. Brett Wilson, Pierre Poilievre, David Bercuson (who's son was my friend), etc.

David Bercuson, the military history prof at the UofC?? I had him way back in 2000/2001. How did he go loony?? I thought he was great (23yrs ago), but know nothing of his politics.

[Wormius]

Hmm. Tom Flanagan the guy who believed kids in residential schools were happy cause they smiled in the photos?

[D as in David]

Is the woman in the lower right-hand corner Firecracker from The Boys or does she play her in real life?

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by D as in David

Is the woman in the lower right-hand corner Firecracker from The Boys or does she play her in real life?

Fun fact: The director of The Boys confirmed Firecracker is based off MTG.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by FLAMESRULE

David Bercuson, the military history prof at the UofC?? I had him way back in 2000/2001. How did he go loony?? I thought he was great (23yrs ago), but know nothing of his politics.

Yes, more of a military history prof, but definitely apart of the "Calgary School" of right-wing libertarian ideals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calgary_School

Bercuson, who had been at the University of Calgary since 1970, had earned his PhD in history at the University of Toronto with a focus on liberal and social democratic theory. Over the years he became more conservative. Bercuson was not a political scientist like Flanagan, Knopff, Morton but he co-published with Cooper because of a shared interest in military history.[6] Bercuson was an "economic and foreign policy conservative" like the other four, but he was more of a "social liberal". He supported pro-choice on abortion, and was in favor of legalizing gay marriage, unlike the others.[6] He did not support Harper in 1993 as did the others, although he did support him in 2006. While the others supported Ralph Klein, Bercuson supported a Liberal candidate.[6]

[Salt Water Cowboy #10]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

Unfortunately, I was stuck in a room with Tom Flanagan as he was my prof at U of C for a PoliSci class. This was right around the time that him and his Reform buddies were in the planning stages of permanently injuring political discourse in Canada. He has been one of the guys that's given the Reform/Wild Rose/UCP movement in Canada the guise of intellectual cover. When someone talks about Universities being breading grounds for liberalism, Tom Flanagan and the 90's U of C campus is an example of just the opposite. So many indoctrinated idiots came out of there: Harper, Danielle Smith, Rob Anders, Ezra Levant, W. Brett Wilson, Pierre Poilievre, David Bercuson (who's son was my friend), etc.

Many of these people I would agree are idiots. But by your logic it would seem all people who go to U of C must also be “indoctrinated idiots”
I think there are a few who regularly post in this thread that may have gone to U of C.

[Inglewood Jack]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Fun fact: The director of The Boys confirmed Firecracker is based off MTG.

That's just weird because MTG is a politician while Firecracker is a media personality. There's tons of real life equivalents out there that would be a more direct inspiration.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Salt Water Cowboy #10

Many of these people I would agree are idiots. But by your logic it would seem all people who go to U of C must also be “indoctrinated idiots”
I think there are a few who regularly post in this thread that may have gone to U of C.

They're not quite saying that. They are saying that the campus of the 90s - and the Poli Sci scene in particular - at the U of C seemed to generate a lot of bonkers humans.

I graduated from U of C and I definitely didn't get that impression from Red Slinger's post.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Inglewood Jack

That's just weird because MTG is a politician while Firecracker is a media personality. There's tons of real life equivalents out there that would be a more direct inspiration.

Not really. Director basically said Firecracker is MTG's personality in a ridiculous, absurb and corrupted superhero group. Same loud, brash, conspiracy-peddling human pylon.

[Julio]

So cool at the Premier of the province is speaking (gratas I am sure...) at an event where the organizers are afraid to say what the venue is.

[Fuzz]

In pursuit of "freedom" Smith and LaGrange risk compromising education.

Alberta’s advanced education minister has stressed the bill is not intended to obstruct federal money for post-secondary institutions. “I don’t believe the intent of this bill is to stop funding,” Rajan Sawhney said. “It’s to have an understanding and knowledge and information about what is being funded.”

However, she added: “We want to make sure that this funding does align with provincial priorities.”

The provincial regulation, however, will ensure the research projects funded by the councils are agreeable to the province. “It’s the provincial government that’s actually doing what it accuses the federal government of doing,” Lang said.

University of Alberta law professor Eric Adams in an earlier interview said the government may not impede research on issues that it has an ideological position on, although he asked the province to clarify its intentions.

The researchers told the representatives the provincial regulations could add years to their project, which would be detrimental to their competitiveness and relationships with colleagues outside the region. “It would place Alberta researchers at a terrible handicap relative to researchers in other provinces,” Sutherland said.

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...ederal-funding

Such forward thinking leadership. I wonder what the Office of Red Tape Reduction thinks of this? Good thing we have at least another 3 years of this stupidity.

[InglewoodFan]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Hmm. Tom Flanagan the guy who believed kids in residential schools were happy cause they smiled in the photos?

Also the guy who figured no one should go to jail for looking at child pornography https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada...ents-1.1180824

I do agree that the Calgary School of the 90s will make an interesting topic some day.

[Fuzz]

The Alberta government banned the use of electronic tabulators in municipal elections when it passed Bill 20 in May of this year. It's a method that municipalities have used for decades, saying it has saved them time and money.

Alberta Municipalities wants the province to reconsider.

"They provided really timely, efficient, and quite honestly, accurate counting of our residents' votes," Heron said.

"Now we're going to get the exact opposite. We're going to get less timely and less accurate and much more costly counting of the votes."

The Alberta Municipalities resolution says in part that some municipalities haven't used manual vote counting in years. The risk in "adapting alternative vote-counting processes without precedent or corporate expertise" increases the likelihood of mistakes, delayed results, and cost escalation, it says.

"He's only going on a few anecdotal suspicions. I would happily support this if there was good, solid data and good, solid surveys of Albertans, but that doesn't exist."

The City of Red Deer looked at the financial impact the change might have. In a report, the city's administration found the changes might cost almost $1.5 million for the next election — around 3½ times more than in past general elections.

One section of the Red Deer report, which came out earlier this month, assumed that with 30 per cent voter turnout and one provincial referendum question, there would be about 90,000 ballots to count.

"It will take four workers 37 days (counting 24/7) to hand count 90,000 ballots," the report said.
"To complete the count in four hours, it will take 1,200 workers."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...331404?cmp=rss

And more stupid disposal of money by morons who listen to the absolute stupidest subsection of society and form policy that way. Why TF are we being governed by morons??? Seriously, come back her UCP voters and defend this. I'd love to hear one voter come up with some reasonable explanation for this, or apologize to us for foisting this idiocracy on the rest of us. Maybe one who didn't vote for this, and then #### off to the US. Gee, if only someone would have warned you, eh?

[puffnstuff]

Nothing better than ideologically driven decisions with no basis in truth.

And to the previous post, Fed money for research...we wanna control it. Anything else, Ottawa is over reaching again!

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...331404?cmp=rss

And more stupid disposal of money by morons who listen to the absolute stupidest subsection of society and form policy that way. Why TF are we being governed by morons??? Seriously, come back her UCP voters and defend this. I'd love to hear one voter come up with some reasonable explanation for this, or apologize to us for foisting this idiocracy on the rest of us. Maybe one who didn't vote for this, and then #### off to the US. Gee, if only someone would have warned you, eh?

One way to look at this is job creation. It is only short term employment but at least it is putting a few bucks in the pockets of many people instead of just automating more jobs.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

One way to look at this is job creation. It is only short term employment but at least it is putting a few bucks in the pockets of many people instead of just automating more jobs.

Or you could automate those jobs, and spend the money on jobs elsewhere, instead of flushing it down the toilet. If that's the way you think, the city could have employed tens of thousands carrying buckets of water instead of using pipes. Think of all the employment! Why do something efficiently, when you can do it stupidly?


Thanks for the effort, but no. This is still dumb.