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Old 09-17-2024, 09:07 PM   #21341
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He says he will lower energy bills by 50%. Everybody cheers, but nobody asks how.
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Only Democrats get asked how.
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Poland, France and several other European countries would like a word.
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The two biggest pop stars on the planet have now endorsed Harris/Walz. Hopefully this moves the needle just a little bit more in the Democrats' favour, and encourages more young people to get off their asses, register, and vote.

https://variety.com/2024/music/news/...nt-1236147555/

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Billie Eilish and Finneas have officially endorsed Kamala Harris for president over Donald Trump. In a joint video post on Instagram, the Grammy and Oscar-winning duo celebrated National Voter Registration Day by encouraging their followers to register, vote early and to vote for the Kamala Harris-Tim Walz ticket.

“We are voting for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz because they are fighting to protect our reproductive freedom, our planet and our democracy,” Eilish said.

Finneas added, “We can’t let extremists control our lives, ours freedoms and our future. The only way to stop them and the dangerous Project 2025 agenda is to vote and elect Kamala Harris.”

“Vote like your life depends on it, because it does,” Eilish concluded.
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It will take 400 years no worries.
It can happen ON DAY 1 if he can divert the Atlantic Ocean.

I presume he is talking about the Atlantic rather than the Pacific, but I can’t be sure.

Then again, it could be the Arctic.
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Old 09-18-2024, 01:26 AM   #21346
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Seth Meyers perfectly exposes GOP hypocrisy on blaming Democrats for inciting violence.

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Just watched a documentary on January 6.

It really is amazing how in today’s day and age, the news cycle, and the resulting perception of the timeline of events, have changed so much such that things that happened only four years ago now seem like decades.

It’s absolutely disgusting that Trump is anywhere near this election. A narcissistic liar wannabe dictator, morally bankrupt with no redeeming qualities and no respect for the rule of the law should be rotting in prison right now with humanity afforded the pleasure if not the right of never hearing from that scumbag again.

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Old 09-18-2024, 07:12 AM   #21348
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Just watched a documentary on January 6.

It really is amazing how in today’s day and age, the news cycle, and the resulting perception of the timeline of events, have changed so much such that things that happened only four years ago now seem like decades.

It’s absolutely disgusting that Trump is anywhere near this election. A narcissistic liar wannabe dictator, morally bankrupt with no redeeming qualities and no respect for the rule of the law should be rotting in prison right now with humanity afforded the pleasure if not the right of never hearing from that scumbag again.
It is wild the impact of where people get information.

This is the only explanation of the popularity of trump considering we all have perfect information of how he performed only 5 years. All the eligible voters were alive and experienced his performance.

But those in the maga / qanon / alberta-first spheres literally never interact with traditional media. They are fed a steady stream of hate.

Further, if they somehow do, they have been perfectly trained to reject any narratives from outside their sphere with the view that any other information is fake, and completely false.

To be fair, I talk to some left-leaning people (including on this site) who seem to have lost their ability to differentiate what they have seen and experienced and are knowledgeable about vs. rhetoric they have consumed.

Stepping back it really is quite an incredible work of brainwashing that has been done. China and Russia have been very effective at corrupting a significant portion of the population, and setting them against each other.

I wouldn't have thought this was possible if I'm honest. But then I never understood how other countries seemed to go crazy, why did Germans, Argentines, Cambodians, and Chinese people go along with pretty wild leaders?

I think what we are seeing is how charisma, hate, and a domination of information allows oppressive regimes to build widespread support and dominate countries over decades.

My take, not that anybody is interested, is the path we're on in liberal democratic societies is in real peril. Conservative movements in Canada, the UK, Europe all look at what is happening in the US as a playbook, and are emulating it.

What happens if autocrats start to lead formerly democratic and developed countries? Who stops aggression if the US and major EU countries are also autocrats just like China and Russia? Is it another landgrab like we had during colonial times? Does it ultimately lead to WW3? Does it just mean continued erosion of rights and freedoms? It's quite a scary thought.
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Just watched a documentary on January 6.

It really is amazing how in today’s day and age, the news cycle, and the resulting perception of the timeline of events, have changed so much such that things that happened only four years ago now seem like decades.

It’s absolutely disgusting that Trump is anywhere near this election. A narcissistic liar wannabe dictator, morally bankrupt with no redeeming qualities and no respect for the rule of the law should be rotting in prison right now with humanity afforded the pleasure if not the right of never hearing from that scumbag again.
It's not just Trump, the Republican party spent the past four years defending Trump and his actions, getting in the way of justice being served. They are as rotten as he is, just not as boisterous about it. And half of American voters support them every election.
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Just watched a documentary on January 6.

It really is amazing how in today’s day and age, the news cycle, and the resulting perception of the timeline of events, have changed so much such that things that happened only four years ago now seem like decades.

It’s absolutely disgusting that Trump is anywhere near this election. A narcissistic liar wannabe dictator, morally bankrupt with no redeeming qualities and no respect for the rule of the law should be rotting in prison right now with humanity afforded the pleasure if not the right of never hearing from that scumbag again.
It's wild that someone who was involved in something like that is still allowed to run for President. You would imagine that someone who attempts to subvert their government would automatically be disqualified for ever holding any seat, let alone the government's top seat ever again at minimum.
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It's wild that someone who was involved in something like that is still allowed to run for President.
Just 10 "Guilty" votes short in the senate.... just 10. Those cowards couldn't even vote to save themselves after the turd was already out of office. If the GOP had spent the last 3 years reinventing itself, they'd be in landslide territory.
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It can happen ON DAY 1 if he can divert the Atlantic Ocean.

I presume he is talking about the Atlantic rather than the Pacific, but I can’t be sure.

Then again, it could be the Arctic.
Time to pull out that sharpie.
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Just watched a documentary on January 6.

It really is amazing how in today’s day and age, the news cycle, and the resulting perception of the timeline of events, have changed so much such that things that happened only four years ago now seem like decades.

It’s absolutely disgusting that Trump is anywhere near this election. A narcissistic liar wannabe dictator, morally bankrupt with no redeeming qualities and no respect for the rule of the law should be rotting in prison right now with humanity afforded the pleasure if not the right of never hearing from that scumbag again.
The casual dismissal of the gravity of that event by people around me was more crushing to my hopes than the dismissal of the pandemic.
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My take, not that anybody is interested, is the path we're on in liberal democratic societies is in real peril. Conservative movements in Canada, the UK, Europe all look at what is happening in the US as a playbook, and are emulating it.
Alot of the progressive gains are going to be lost, and I think with that, some of the cultural acceptance of marginalized people and respect for personal rights. Ironically, the right's insatiable defense of personal freedoms will likely end up damaging personal freedoms for everyone that doesn't fall into their preferred narrative of what a true 'citizen' is.

Then on top of that, the right's inability to tackle existential challenges will create more problems with the likes of climate change, resource depletion, pandemics and global health crises, nuclear and biological warfare, AI and technology omnipotence, wealth inequality, unemployment, global debt, supply chain vulnerability, displacement, and the destruction of social institutions to support the vulnerable.

We may need to go down a dark road politically to truly understand our place in a changing world. I don't want this to happen, but if people really think we can put our trust in bloviated turnips like Trump, PP, Trupalla/Wiedel, Meloni, Le Pen (who lost by a hair), Wilders and Abascal, then perhaps it's a growing pain we'll just have to endure.

It sucks, but it's obviously coming. People want right-wing populism and blitzkreig propaganda that blurs lies from reality is keeping that voltage high.
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Old 09-18-2024, 08:10 AM   #21355
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A podcast right is available for free called American Election : Wicked Games.

They are on Clinton vs Dole. It goes through every election about 40 minute episodes. Interesting listen.
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I cannot find the tweet I read late last night. But the jist was something like...

The only people still supporting trump are the ones that believe WWE wrestling is not scripted and trickle down economics are real and that election results and pandemics are fake.

Zero respect for anyone supporting Republicans these days. If you're dumb enough to still be on board with what is happening I can't respect a damn thing you have to say about anything else.
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I cannot find the tweet I read late last night. But the jist was something like...

The only people still supporting trump are the ones that believe WWE wrestling is not scripted and trickle down economics are real and that election results and pandemics are fake.

Zero respect for anyone supporting Republicans these days. If you're dumb enough to still be on board with what is happening I can't respect a damn thing you have to say about anything else.

Don't forget the rich people and the fundamentalists who will ignore everything else because he is okay with restricting reproductive freedom
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I cannot find the tweet I read late last night. But the jist was something like...

The only people still supporting trump are the ones that believe WWE wrestling is not scripted and trickle down economics are real and that election results and pandemics are fake.

Zero respect for anyone supporting Republicans these days. If you're dumb enough to still be on board with what is happening I can't respect a damn thing you have to say about anything else.
I dunno, I bet they know a lot about pretzels.
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I don't know how this guy's not considered a danger to society, but here we are.
You can't say that now! /s
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I cannot find the tweet I read late last night. But the jist was something like...

The only people still supporting trump are the ones that believe WWE wrestling is not scripted and trickle down economics are real and that election results and pandemics are fake.

Zero respect for anyone supporting Republicans these days. If you're dumb enough to still be on board with what is happening I can't respect a damn thing you have to say about anything else.
If true, then Harris’s numbers shouldn’t increase among committed voters because those are hard core who will never move. Her greatest opportunity then seems to be uncommitted voters, and those who don’t vote but might be convinced to do so.

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