MF YYC Politics - there, I mega did it

[Ozy_Flame]

She's in New York too, so they have plenty of opportunities to do it from one of many underground subway stations, kind of like what the Green Line should have had.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by surferguy

Doesn't she have a televised address today about our schools? I can only imagine what concentration of acid she is going to dump on them.

Schools are an affront to parental rights. Time for them to go.

[BlackArcher101]

Probably going to dismantle the school boards because the overcrowding issue isn't due to the number of schools or teachers, it's that they are wasting the money given to them.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

Probably going to dismantle the school boards because the overcrowding issue isn't due to the number of schools or teachers, it's that they are wasting the money given to them.

The Catholic School Board will be given control over the public board schools, for reasons. You know what? Why don't we just skip the middle man and let God run them.

[Jimmy Stang]

nm

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

Probably going to dismantle the school boards because the overcrowding issue isn't due to the number of schools or teachers, it's that they are wasting the money given to them.

schools can't be overcrowded if we don't have schools!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

Love him, hate him, or be indifferent of him but Gian-Carlo Carra was on the Eyeopener this morning and was spitting fire towards the provincial government in regards to the green line. When the interview link goes up I'll post it here.

Edit: Oh, and it is up already: https://www.cbc.ca/listen/live-radio...line-wind-down

He makes some good points. I do like his passion and I know he's taken some #### from Ogden residents but he keeps trying.

He is hopping pissed though. I like the fire.

[Bigtime]

Looking like the bill for no green line is going to be around 2.1 billion.

[Looch City]

All that money cause Smith is scared ####less of Nenshi.

2.1 billion dollar political stunt. Amazing.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Looch City

All that money cause Smith is scared ####less of Nenshi.

2.1 billion dollar political stunt. Amazing.

That's ok, I'm sure Smith is working on having Trudeau cover it, personally.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Looch City

All that money cause Smith is scared ####less of Nenshi.

2.1 billion dollar political stunt. Amazing.

Ya, but think about the return on that 2.1 billion. We'll be getting...


Oh, wait, it's just another kick in the taint.

[Torture]

2.1B for nothing. #### you Devin ####ing Dreeshan.

[accord1999]

Or maybe the City should have have made the decision years ago to cut the belt line tunnel or switch to BRT instead of plunging forward just because of the sunk cost. Right now it's still another $11-$12B to finish the Green Line as originally presented in 2015.

The sunk cost fallacy is how Honolulu ended up spending over $8B on a train line that currently carries 3000 riders/day and costs over $70M/year to operate.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by accord1999

Or maybe the City should have have made the decision years ago to cut the belt line tunnel or switch to BRT instead of plunging forward just because of the sunk cost. Right now it's still another $11-$12B to finish the Green Line as originally presented in 2015.

The sunk cost fallacy is how Honolulu ended up spending over $8B on a train line that currently carries 3000 riders/day and costs over $70M/year to operate.

This is the type of project that really needs a deep dive into what happened. The way it has been canceled has been clearly political but at the time the value for the product we were getting had become questionable.

If we had a reasonable provincial representatives here there is a project that could be built that would accomplish most of the goals.

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by accord1999

Or maybe the City should have have made the decision years ago to cut the belt line tunnel or switch to BRT instead of plunging forward just because of the sunk cost.

And yet, for years now the provincial government has toyed with this project, delaying it with "reviews" and then letting it continue despite the so-called "obvious" issues with it? The timing for cutting funding now is extremely suspect.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

And yet, for years now the provincial government has toyed with this project, delaying it with "reviews" and then letting it continue despite the so-called "obvious" issues with it? The timing for cutting funding now is extremely suspect.

And only a month ago saying the City could 100% bank on funding.

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

And yet, for years now the provincial government has toyed with this project, delaying it with "reviews" and then letting it continue despite the so-called "obvious" issues with it? The timing for cutting funding now is extremely suspect.

At most the UCP can be blamed for about a 13 month delay, most delays are the result of the Green Line itself:

Green Line timeline:

Late 2015: Construction to begin in 2017/2018, opening in 2024 for the entire 40 km line (from Panorama to Seton)
May 2017: Cut back to 16th Ave - Shepard, construction to begin in 2020 and opening in 2026
June 2019: 4km core tunnel no longer feasible, new plan (with 2.5 km tunnel) developed with construction expected to begin 2021, new managing director hired
June 2020: Council approves new plan with shorter tunnels and 3 phase Stage 1 but not approved by Alberta
Sept 2020: Managing director leaves
July 2021: Alberta approves new plan with 2 phase Stage 1, new CEO for GL is hired
April 2023: Constructor is selected but requires 16 months for design
June 2024: 60% design is finished

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by Torture

And only a month ago saying the City could 100% bank on funding.

As this post points out, the letter only says the funding is there if it meets Alberta requirements, not that it was already approved:


https://skyrisecities.com/forum/thre...8#post-2139321


And this also ignores that Canada wanted an updated business plan to look at too.


https://pub-calgary.escribemeetings....umentId=299436

[Torture]

Originally Posted by accord1999

At most the UCP can be blamed for about a 13 month delay, most delays are the result of the Green Line itself:

Green Line timeline:

Late 2015: Construction to begin in 2017/2018, opening in 2024 for the entire 40 km line (from Panorama to Seton)
May 2017: Cut back to 16th Ave - Shepard, construction to begin in 2020 and opening in 2026
June 2019: 4km core tunnel no longer feasible, new plan (with 2.5 km tunnel) developed with construction expected to begin 2021, new managing director hired
June 2020: Council approves new plan with shorter tunnels and 3 phase Stage 1 but not approved by Alberta
Sept 2020: Managing director leaves
July 2021: Alberta approves new plan with 2 phase Stage 1, new CEO for GL is hired
April 2023: Constructor is selected but requires 16 months for design
June 2024: 60% design is finished

Disagree with the plan all you want but you have to be able to at least agree that the way the Province handled this is an absolute disaster.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by accord1999

As this post points out, the letter only says the funding is there if it meets Alberta requirements, not that it was already approved:


https://skyrisecities.com/forum/thre...8#post-2139321


And this also ignores that Canada wanted an updated business plan to look at too.


https://pub-calgary.escribemeetings....umentId=299436

"You bet, 100 per cent, and I've been working closely with the mayor and Calgary city councillors so that they knew that the $1.53-billion commitment from the province for the Green Line was in place and that it was secure and that they can bank on it," Dreeshen said on Aug. 1.

Really? Seems pretty clear to me.