Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[timun]

Originally Posted by para transit fellow

since when does Quebec collect income taxes for the federal government?

last i heard it was still a discussion

https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-age...rn-quebec.html


https://taxsummaries.pwc.com/canada/...ec%20residents.

https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-age...ge/quebec.html

I misspoke, my bad. CRA collects less in federal income taxes from Quebec residents in the first place, and the difference is counted as part of the overall federal transfers to Quebec. Overarching point being that in isolation the Quebec provincial income tax rates seem waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay higher than everywhere else, but that's mostly because the feds collect less income tax from them in the first place.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by GGG

The last piece to include would be how to account for PST. It doesn’t apply to housing or food or utilities so that is probably 80% of spending for people in the brackets where the comparison would matter. So then is saying say 20% of 70% of your income is subject to PST a reasonable number? So 14% of income so effectively equivalent of a 1% income tax??? Those factors would very by income as well.

The tax question doesn’t really matter though as housing costs dominate all discussion of affordability when comparing Alberta to BC. But as a philosophical exercise it’s still interesting.

If you really want to go down a rabbit hole add cost of living. Groceries in particular seem to be significantly cheaper in Ontario and Quebec, anecdotally speaking

[puffnstuff]

What box do I have to check on my taxes so I can opt out of spending 43 million of government money on a charter school?

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

What box do I have to check on my taxes so I can opt out of spending 43 million of government money on a charter school?

It’s beside the box you check to opt out of school taxes because you don’t have kids in school.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

What box do I have to check on my taxes so I can opt out of spending 43 million of government money on a charter school?

Charter schools mean choice. Don't you want to have a choice? Oh, uhm...

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by edslunch

If you really want to go down a rabbit hole add cost of living. Groceries in particular seem to be significantly cheaper in Ontario and Quebec, anecdotally speaking

They definitely seem so. And the quality seems better too.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

They definitely seem so. And the quality seems better too.

Don't get me started on cheese....

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

What box do I have to check on my taxes so I can opt out of spending 43 million of government money on a charter school?

I'm unsure why any public money would be going to build a private school. Couldn't that just go to building a public school, or restoring funding to the schools we already have?

Seems like bad economic policy, unless somehow we are going to reap a profit through enrollment, or redeem value by having the school support something specific, like at risk kids or severe learning disabilities. Yes, I know that's dreaming.

[Harry Lime]

Although it might go some way to retention of teachers in the province, as private schools have lesser class sizes and other positive traits. It's almost as if private was made more appealing to educators on purpose. But that would take aa insane, flailing Lagrange, and I'm sure we don't have one of those lurking in the countryside.

[accord1999]

Charter schools in Alberta are specialized public schools run by a small or independent board. Students that attend them don't pay tuition, though they may have uniform fees; and activity fees that most public schools also have.

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

I'm unsure why any public money would be going to build a private school. Couldn't that just go to building a public school, or restoring funding to the schools we already have?

Seems like bad economic policy, unless somehow we are going to reap a profit through enrollment, or redeem value by having the school support something specific, like at risk kids or severe learning disabilities. Yes, I know that's dreaming.

Because they want the public system to fail, it’s too progressive for them. They want the health system to fail. They want the cities to fail. They don’t want success, it’s why they are so dangerous, they value some weird and warped sense of purpose and will destroy things to prove it.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang

As fitting as ever:

"That’s the standard technique of privatization: defund, make sure things don’t work, people get angry, you hand it over to private capital."
- Noam Chomsky

Our dummy citizens in this stupid province don't see it, though. Vote conservative!!!!

[Ironhorse]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

Good thing we destroyed all of our Covid vaccines a few weeks back

That was at the direction of Health Canada, since apparently this fall's vaccines have the same drug number.

[FlameOn]

As seen on 17th

[Fuzz]

“We are informing the Government of Canada that until further notice, Alberta is not open to having these additional asylum seekers settled in our province.


“We simply cannot afford it.”

https://www.alberta.ca/release.cfm?x...30E6E717033046


Why do all her press releases sound like an angry marmot screaming into a microphone set to 11? Why is this a press release, and not a "we are looking to discuss with the government issues around immigration numbers to Alberta"? She always jumps to the last step.

[MarchHare]

"Yet, the Trudeau government’s unrestrained open border policies permitting well over a million newcomers each year into Canada is causing significant challenges, and it’s simply not sustainable."

Canada does not have "open borders". Nor does the United States, for that matter. It's actually very difficult to emigrate to Canada and the USA. Why do ignorant conservatives keep repeating this lie?

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

https://www.alberta.ca/release.cfm?x...30E6E717033046


Why do all her press releases sound like an angry marmot screaming into a microphone set to 11? Why is this a press release, and not a "we are looking to discuss with the government issues around immigration numbers to Alberta"? She always jumps to the last step.

So the party that spent millions advertising all across Canada that "Alberta is Calling" is upset that the population has grown so much? The province with the largest group of settled Ukrainians is upset that Ukrainians are coming here?

That must be the Beaverton.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by belsarius

So the party that spent millions advertising all across Canada that "Alberta is Calling" is upset that the population has grown so much? The province with the largest group of settled Ukrainians is upset that Ukrainians are coming here?

That must be the Beaverton.

My first instinct when I saw the headline Fuzz posted was that it must be the UCP appealing to racists who have a desire to keep those people out of the province, but given that it specifically mentions (white) Ukrainians, I really don't get it.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

"Yet, the Trudeau government’s unrestrained open border policies permitting well over a million newcomers each year into Canada is causing significant challenges, and it’s simply not sustainable."

Canada does not have "open borders". Nor does the United States, for that matter. It's actually very difficult to emigrate to Canada and the USA. Why do ignorant conservatives keep repeating this lie?

Cuz ignorant conservatives love hearing it

[wireframe]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

"Yet, the Trudeau government’s unrestrained open border policies permitting well over a million newcomers each year into Canada is causing significant challenges, and it’s simply not sustainable."

Canada does not have "open borders". Nor does the United States, for that matter. It's actually very difficult to emigrate to Canada and the USA. Why do ignorant conservatives keep repeating this lie?

Part of the problem is that it's no longer hard to move into Canada on a temporary basis and then seek permanent residency from there. Temporary foreign worker and student is a programs have expanded dramatically since covid and both offer a path to permanent residency. Immigration was and still is hard but the huge influx of people comes from shortcuts around the immigration procedure.


I know this because my entire team at work have immigrated to Canada for the job and they are frustrated at all the other fake students short-cutting the process. Apparently, Uber drivers openly tell my Indian colleague that they got in through the "fake student trick" because he's also Indian (he immigrated through the normal channel).



Danielle Smith still stinks but she's bringing this up because it's a real pain point for many Canadians struggling to find work or housing as population surges.