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Old 09-07-2024, 02:32 PM   #281
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I've watched quite a few podcasts/videos about people studying processed foods and the different effects they have vs whole foods.

Processed foods drive hunger instead of satiety. I noticed this big time coming off my diet and putting more processed foods in, I was so much hungrier. On a diet I can eat 16-1800 calories a day no problem. Once I start eating junk I can be starving after a 2500cal day and need late night snacks lol.

It's a tough hump to get over but after a month of better eating I feel like hunger drops. Pretty easy to get back to the other side lol
It's not just processed foods, it's also pop/diet pop/juice/sparkling water that causes appetite to surge.

Once I made the switch from drinking those things to only drinking water and nothing else, it's made a huge difference. I'm down 6 pounds in the past 2 weeks and continuing to drop.
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It's not just processed foods, it's also pop/diet pop/juice/sparkling water that causes appetite to surge.

Once I made the switch from drinking those things to only drinking water and nothing else, it's made a huge difference. I'm down 6 pounds in the past 2 weeks and continuing to drop.
I used to drink a ton of coke zero and now only have once a week when I have pizza. It's water for every other meal and the difference is insane!
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Old 09-07-2024, 09:08 PM   #283
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Yeah, I'd agree that diet is almost everything as you get older and your metabolism slows down (I'm 44).
Recent studies have shown metabolism doesn't slow down until you're well into your 60's and even then it's a fraction of a percent per year.

It is harder to keep muscle mass up when you're older, and muscle mass leads to an increased metabolism, but your age has no impact on your actual metabolism.

If you want to keep your base metabolic rate up as you age you need to maintain your muscle and stay active.
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Recent studies have shown metabolism doesn't slow down until you're well into your 60's and even then it's a fraction of a percent per year.

It is harder to keep muscle mass up when you're older, and muscle mass leads to an increased metabolism, but your age has no impact on your actual metabolism.

If you want to keep your base metabolic rate up as you age you need to maintain your muscle and stay active.
Good to hear about those recent studies. I'm in my early 60s and I've been wondering if/when my metabolism might finally start slowing down. Nice to know that if I keep doing what I've been doing, it still may be awhile.
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Diet, timing of meals, and finding your balance with non-weight related food issues (e.g. lactose, gluten, FODMAPs, etc.) is key to keeping slim, feeling good, and having normal gastrointestinal functions when you're 35+.

My doc recently said lift weights if you want, but a ton of health issues and day-to-day functions are normalized with stricter eating habits.

I have found that focusing on diet, a little bit of weight training, daily stretching (static and dynamic), walking with my dogs and kiddo, and meditating a couple times per week is hitting a good balance.
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There was a study showing that taurine, commonly found in energy drinks and meats, may increase life expectancy rather drastically:

"The median life span of taurine-treated mice increased by 10 to 12%, and life expectancy at 28 months increased by about 18 to 25%. A meaningful antiaging therapy should not only improve life span but also health span, the period of healthy living. We, therefore, investigated the health of taurine-fed middle-aged mice and found an improved functioning of bone, muscle, pancreas, brain, fat, gut, and immune system, indicating an overall increase in health span. We observed similar effects in monkeys."

Taurine deficiencies cause aging, so supplementation may reduce the effects of aging.
However, excessive long term consumption of taurine can affect cholesterol and liver health. Short term effects usually relate to stomach-related maladies.

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There was a study showing that taurine, commonly found in energy drinks and meats, may increase life expectancy rather drastically:

"The median life span of taurine-treated mice increased by 10 to 12%, and life expectancy at 28 months increased by about 18 to 25%. A meaningful antiaging therapy should not only improve life span but also health span, the period of healthy living. We, therefore, investigated the health of taurine-fed middle-aged mice and found an improved functioning of bone, muscle, pancreas, brain, fat, gut, and immune system, indicating an overall increase in health span. We observed similar effects in monkeys."

Taurine deficiencies cause aging, so supplementation may reduce the effects of aging.
However, excessive long term consumption of taurine can affect cholesterol and liver health. Short term effects usually relate to stomach-related maladies.

so you're saying the guy that used to work for me that drank 2 monster drinks every day is "doing it wrong"? honestly, i don't know how his heart didn't pack it in.... the first thing he did everyday when he got into work was crack open a monster drink. morning snack/lunch was usually danishes. then later in the afternoon another monster drink.

i think he survived on sugar, caffeine, taurine. the crazy thing was the guy was in great shape... big into rock climbing, crazy mountain biking - stuff like that.
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so you're saying the guy that used to work for me that drank 2 monster drinks every day is "doing it wrong"? honestly, i don't know how his heart didn't pack it in.... the first thing he did everyday when he got into work was crack open a monster drink. morning snack/lunch was usually danishes. then later in the afternoon another monster drink.

i think he survived on sugar, caffeine, taurine. the crazy thing was the guy was in great shape... big into rock climbing, crazy mountain biking - stuff like that.
Not any worse than the people swigging back multiple large double doubles. I see many of the same people in line at the THs in morning and at lunch.

Those people are not in great shape.
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Not any worse than the people swigging back multiple large double doubles. I see many of the same people in line at the THs in morning and at lunch.

Those people are not in great shape.
With "those people" I think it's the daily pastries more than drinking coffees.

Double double is too much though, even for their largest cup size.

I don't know how that became the taglined coffee order that is universally recognized because it's pretty gross, at least as a grown adult not intent on becoming a diabetic.
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With "those people" I think it's the daily pastries more than drinking coffees.

Double double is too much though, even for their largest cup size.
The cream/sugar amount scales with the coffee size. So it’s actually significantly more cream and sugar in an XL than a S so that it tastes the same regardless of the size.

People who drink an XL double double are drinking something like 8 tsp of sugar and 11 of those little creamer things. So, basically the same as a can of pop with fat.
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The cream/sugar amount scales with the coffee size. So it’s actually significantly more cream and sugar in an XL than a S so that it tastes the same regardless of the size.

People who drink an XL double double are drinking something like 8 tsp of sugar and 11 of those little creamer things. So, basically the same as a can of pop with fat.
I didn't realize this was the case. Not sure if many customers do either. That's a lot.
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I didn't realize this was the case. Not sure if many customers do either. That's a lot.
Yeah it’s crazy. Apparently everything is designed to taste like the equivalent small coffee. So the only real “double double” that’s similar to two creamers and two tsp of sugar is a small coffee, and everything else is just like having multiples of that exact mix.
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https://cdn.sanity.io/files/czqk28jt...57d6b1663d.pdf

DD XL is 300 calories.
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I didn't realize this was the case. Not sure if many customers do either. That's a lot.
How can they not know that?

A double double tastes like a coffee flavoured, hot milkshake.
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All I know is I've lost 123lbs so far and drink lots of Coke Zero. Maybe I would have lost more if I'd stuck to water, but who wants to live like that??!

Mind you I had a much bigger factor involved so whatever influence drinking or not drinking it would have had was washed out completely by other things, so maybe not the best data point.

Also walked 15,000 steps the other day, for me that's crazy. Last year I averaged maybe 2-3000 a day.
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All I know is I've lost 123lbs so far and drink lots of Coke Zero. Maybe I would have lost more if I'd stuck to water, but who wants to live like that??!

Mind you I had a much bigger factor involved so whatever influence drinking or not drinking it would have had was washed out completely by other things, so maybe not the best data point.

Also walked 15,000 steps the other day, for me that's crazy. Last year I averaged maybe 2-3000 a day.
My Coke Zero habits are horrendous. It's just so refreshing. I like the flavor, and I don't get that syrupy feeling that you do with sugared pops.

I do think the data against diet sodas is somewhat correlation vs. causation. People who drink diet sodas, vs water and other alternatives, are going to be more likely to also partake in fast food and other less healthy diet habits.

And congrats on the weight loss! That's huge. You're down a whole person.
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I can't drink regular sugared sodas anymore at all. THEY have the aftertaste now.

Yeah there's been a few times where people I know asked me how much I've lost and I knew them well enough to say "You weight what, about 110lbs? I've lost you." which is pretty fun.

Being able to go to some concerts and just FIT in the seat let alone not have to feel like I'm making the people next to me uncomfortable or grossed out is a big change.
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