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Old 09-05-2024, 01:55 PM   #13781
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Old 09-05-2024, 02:08 PM   #13782
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What makes you so certain that a CPC majority would be anymore “functional” than the current clown show? Granted it is a low bar, but I guess I’m just not seeing what PP or his party have done thus far to show that they are truly the decisive lesser of 2 evils. If Trudeau starts calling his opponents names they’re basically the same aside from their positions on the carbon tax.
They've done nothing to demonstrate they're competent. They're just riding a populist wave to victory and are going to be in for a brutal and rude awakening when they're actually forced to govern and not just gaslight and fight with the media all day.

I have very, very, very high expectations of the Milhouse brand if I have to endure him as a PM.
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He's being outright ridiculed at this point.
Please tell me you aren't using this kind of thing on Xitter of all places as some sort of metric for the feelings of average Canadians. Please.
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First opposition day the Conservatives should introduce a motion that reads ..

"This house has lost confidence in the government because they refuse to stand up to the elites and always cave to corporate greed. This Liberal government is too weak and selfish to continue governing."

See what the NDP does.
Even if you wanted to topple the government you couldn’t vote for that garbage motion. Refusal to stand up to the elites? That is the dumbest populist crap I have seen.
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What makes you so certain that a CPC majority would be anymore “functional” than the current clown show? Granted it is a low bar, but I guess I’m just not seeing what PP or his party have done thus far to show that they are truly the decisive lesser of 2 evils. If Trudeau starts calling his opponents names they’re basically the same aside from their positions on the carbon tax.
For me it’s about forcing Trudeau’s resignation so we can get back to good governance. I have no delusions that PP is going to be any better than the UCP but Trudeau refuses to resign like he should have a year ago.
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Old 09-05-2024, 03:20 PM   #13786
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Even if you wanted to topple the government you couldn’t vote for that garbage motion. Refusal to stand up to the elites? That is the dumbest populist crap I have seen.
Is it really?
You do realize that those are Singh's own words right?
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What makes you so certain that a CPC majority would be anymore “functional” than the current clown show? Granted it is a low bar, but I guess I’m just not seeing what PP or his party have done thus far to show that they are truly the decisive lesser of 2 evils. If Trudeau starts calling his opponents names they’re basically the same aside from their positions on the carbon tax.
Well granted the Liberals were very quick on the gun on binding arbitration and back to work legislation

Do the Liberals actually have anyone willing to stay for improving Canadian lives right now? They are all either jumping ship (Fillmore latest MP to officially resign
after actively campaigning for Halifax mayor while he still was MP), or are part of Trudeau's inner circle that feels they know what Canadians need most regardless of what Canadians say.

Half the Liberals already have a foot out the door, and the other half are seemingly part of a cult. Karina Gould bragging that Liberal policies is why Bank of Canada lowered rates got Vassy Kapelos to do an audible "what" in yesterday's interview.

It's not so much that the CPC are making themselves the best party to govern, the other options (including the NDP) are just that out of touch the CPC becomes the default governing party once elections come...that is until they ruin it of course.

The NDP could have made itself into a viable alternative, but they chose to attach themselves to the Liberals hip instead.

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Is it really?
You do realize that those are Singh's own words right?
Come on now.. you have to see the difference between using those words as political populist crap and using those words as an actual motion in the house?

I know QP is worse than the WWE for it's dramatics, but I expect a little bit more out of an actual motion to vote on.
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Come on now.. you have to see the difference between using those words as political populist crap and using those words as an actual motion in the house?

I know QP is worse than the WWE for it's dramatics, but I expect a little bit more out of an actual motion to vote on.
It was obviously a joke inferring that Singh would have a hard time voting against a motion that repeated his own words. Basically if the government is as bad as he has been saying the last 24 hours how could he continue to support it?
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It was obviously a joke inferring that Singh would have a hard time voting against a motion that repeated his own words. Basically if the government is as bad as he has been saying the last 24 hours how could he continue to support it?
That's fair - it just went over my head as a joke as seemed a serious idea.
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Well granted the Liberals were very quick on the gun on binding arbitration and back to work legislation
I think this is a case of glass houses until the guy you’re always shaking pompoms for comes out and denounces the moved. So maybe you should wait until then before trying to pretend like he wouldn’t have done the exact same thing.

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after actively campaigning for Halifax mayor while he still was MP), or are part of Trudeau's inner circle that feels they know what Canadians need most regardless of what Canadians say.

Half the Liberals already have a foot out the door, and the other half are seemingly part of a cult. Karina Gould bragging that Liberal policies is why Bank of Canada lowered rates got Vassy Kapelos to do an audible "what" in yesterday's interview.

It's not so much that the CPC are making themselves the best party to govern, the other options (including the NDP) are just that out of touch the CPC becomes the default governing party once elections come...that is until they ruin it of course.

The NDP could have made itself into a viable alternative, but they chose to attach themselves to the Liberals hip instead.
So you have nothing other than rhetoric and the logical fallacy of anything is better than what we currently have to justify your statement that a CPC government would govern less ridiculously? Sounds about right.
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Old 09-05-2024, 05:13 PM   #13792
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Well granted the Liberals were very quick on the gun on binding arbitration and back to work legislation

Do the Liberals actually have anyone willing to stay for improving Canadian lives right now? They are all either jumping ship (Fillmore latest MP to officially resign
after actively campaigning for Halifax mayor while he still was MP), or are part of Trudeau's inner circle that feels they know what Canadians need most regardless of what Canadians say.

Half the Liberals already have a foot out the door, and the other half are seemingly part of a cult. Karina Gould bragging that Liberal policies is why Bank of Canada lowered rates got Vassy Kapelos to do an audible "what" in yesterday's interview.

It's not so much that the CPC are making themselves the best party to govern, the other options (including the NDP) are just that out of touch the CPC becomes the default governing party once elections come...that is until they ruin it of course.

The NDP could have made itself into a viable alternative, but they chose to attach themselves to the Liberals hip instead.
Yeah the Star article, behind a paywall know that covered Broadbent's resignation, also indicated that a bunch of Liberals including cabinet members are going to walk, the party asked them to stay til closer to the budget though.

The problem with the Liberal's now is even if Justin resigns, and they go into an election, who do they have that's going to gain votes, most of their senior cabinet members are pretty much reviled, Anita Anaud was one but she got squarely trapped in these contract scandals. The Liberals might as well get Mark Gerrettsen to run, because in the next election any Liberal leader would look better.

All the talk of Mark Carny coming in has gone away, I doubt he wants to take a run at the party that's going down in flames.

And the Vassy Gould interview was really interesting, when Gould tried to take credit for the rate drop you could hear Vassy's eye balls clicked and she went after Gould hard leaving her looking frantic and out of breath.


As for the NDP, the ripping up the agreement is more public relations then anything else. The NDP can't go into an election anytime soon, their poll numbers are awful, and they are lagging far behind the Cons in fund raising and far behind the Liberals.



I honestly think that the Liberals have given up on pushing Trudeau out, they're just going to rid through the next election and then use the results to purge out the more cult like Trudeauites in the party.


I think at this point no matter what Jagmeet is out of a job after the next election and he knows it. When Tom Mulcair turns back to angry Tom on CTV and basically says that Jagmeet is a bit of an idiot in a round about way its on like donkey Kong.
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I like it!
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Hm, I think it's still a work in progress, I'm not entirely satisfied with it. Lunatic seems a little too strong, but Ludicrous not quite strong enough, y'know?

We'll workshop some options.
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Hm, I think it's still a work in progress, I'm not entirely satisfied with it. Lunatic seems a little too strong, but Ludicrous not quite strong enough, y'know?

We'll workshop some options.
Hmm...I am a fan of Lunacy though.
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I think at this point no matter what Jagmeet is out of a job after the next election and he knows it. When Tom Mulcair turns back to angry Tom on CTV and basically says that Jagmeet is a bit of an idiot in a round about way its on like donkey Kong.
Mulcair’s comment that Poillievre is drawing away unionized, working-class Canadians from the NDP was interesting.
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Mulcair’s comment that Poillievre is drawing away unionized, working-class Canadians from the NDP was interesting.
I find that incredible to believe. If so, he's not drawing them away because he's pro-union, it has to be for other reasons.
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I find that incredible to believe. If so, he's not drawing them away because he's pro-union, it has to be for other reasons.
Rope?
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I find that incredible to believe. If so, he's not drawing them away because he's pro-union, it has to be for other reasons.
He isn't more pro union but messaging, policies, discussions and more are and have been centered around working class people for a while now. It's more of a large tent philosophy that is better suited to larger voting blocks in Ontario/Quebec etc.

For a guy from AB, you don't hear a ton of things about oil and gas, western Canada rights, gun legislation and more.

He has been very careful in picking up issues that are really mattering to Canadians and to Canadians where the votes are. Cost of living, housing, auto thefts, immigration volume, drug/homeless/crime issues.

It has been very challenging for the Liberals to counterattack and they have been trying so hard, so long and it's just not working.

The Liberals can't sell what Canadian's aren't buying anymore. Policies have stayed the same but the game is kinda different.

You can't sell that the carbon tax rebate is higher than we are paying. Literally everybody is using the carbon tax as an excuse to raise prices everywhere.

You can't sell that the Liberals are investing into the middle class when costs for basic things are absurdly expensive.

You can't sell that immigration at 400k+ a year isn't having an affect on the housing supply and services. People are going to view homes to either rent or buy and are seeing a lot of people who are newcomers competing with them for housing and for government services. It literally is right in front of their eyes.
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