Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

More UCP advantage for electricity prices. Calgary and Edmonton pay the highest rates in the country. Been talked about before but this is in a nicer graph form now and compares things by city. Thanks Smith for deregulating electricity and insurance rates.

https://www.hydroquebec.com/data/doc...rices-2023.pdf

According to that series of reports from Hydro Quebec, Alberta (Calgary and Edmonton) dropped to third lowest in the country in 2016 but increased 50% within two years to become fourth highest in the country and increased another 100% after that.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

According to that series of reports from Hydro Quebec, Alberta (Calgary and Edmonton) dropped to third lowest in the country in 2016 but increased 50% within two years to become fourth highest in the country and increased another 100% after that.

So it was the lowest when the NDP were in power and has only increased more since the UCP were elected?

Pretty obvious choice if we want to help the cost of living.

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Now do insurance rates pls.

Originally Posted by FlameOn

Home is a different because of varying house prices. Most surveys only do average insurance costs, not insurance cost per dollar of insured house which skews high for BC and ON for their house prices.

I pulled the average home rates for insurance out of ratehub.ca and normalized those against the average house prices by province. Surprise surprise, Alberta is #1 again, highest rates in the country for home insurance. UCP advantage



https://www.springfinancial.ca/blog/...ices-in-canada
https://www.ratehub.ca/blog/average-...-cost-alberta/
https://www.ratehub.ca/blog/average-...20in%20Ontario.
etc

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

So it was the lowest when the NDP were in power and has only increased more since the UCP were elected?

Pretty obvious choice if we want to help the cost of living.

Prices were in significant decline already leading up to the 2015 election and everything drastically changed at some point in 2017.

[D as in David]

Hold on to your hats, everyone - this is just the start. There's still two months to go until Danielle's leadership review at the UCP AGM at the beginning of November.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

This graph enrages me. The UCP is worst ####ing government in Canadian history.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Muta

This graph enrages me. The UCP are worst ####ing government in Canadian history.

I actually lost a lot of faith in the general public when the UCP won. A lot of people knew Smith was a doughnut but basically said eeek the NDP will kill oil and gas even though they proved they will support it when they had power.

[fotze2]

Also a note for rapey insurance.

I moved to Thepersonal from TD and saved $2,000k per year on my 2016 Tiguan POS. Just never seemed to find the time to shop around. Ridiculous.

The other vehicles and house way lower as well.

Shop around!

I swear there is a business model for a service that takes your info and shops around for better rates for all out subscription crap.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by fotze2

Shop around!

I swear there is a business model for a service that takes your info and shops around for better rates for all out subscription crap.

You'd think a broker would do this but I've yet to find one that doesn't just renew with your prior carrier unless you complain. Only then will they, maybe, do some actual work.

I, too, have resorted to shopping every couple of years.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by FlameOn

More UCP advantage for electricity prices. Calgary and Edmonton pay the highest rates in the country. Been talked about before but this is in a nicer graph form now and compares things by city. Thanks Smith for deregulating electricity and insurance rates.


https://www.hydroquebec.com/data/doc...rices-2023.pdf

This is misleading at best and was debunked by Blake Schaffer.

https://x.com/bcshaffer/status/1828605200556531754

[Mazrim]

EDIT: misread the post

[Dentoman]

Originally Posted by fotze2

Also a note for rapey insurance.

I moved to Thepersonal from TD and saved $2,000k per year on my 2016 Tiguan POS. Just never seemed to find the time to shop around. Ridiculous.

The other vehicles and house way lower as well.

Shop around!

I swear there is a business model for a service that takes your info and shops around for better rates for all out subscription crap.

Did the same. Saved over $4000 on home and auto moving to The Personal. Should have checked much sooner, thought my broker was doing it for me. Guess I was wrong.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by chedder

You'd think a broker would do this but I've yet to find one that doesn't just renew with your prior carrier unless you complain. Only then will they, maybe, do some actual work.

I, too, have resorted to shopping every couple of years.

I can't believe how different brokers get wildly different rates from the same providers. So now instead of having a broker cross-shop for me, I have to cross-shop brokers who all cross-shop policies. It's brutal.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I actually lost a lot of faith in the general public when the UCP won. A lot of people knew Smith was a doughnut but basically said eeek the NDP will kill oil and gas even though they proved they will support it when they had power.

Yep. All the people who claim they are centrist voted out the most centrist party I've ever seen outside of maybe Chretien/Martin's Liberals.

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Yep. All the people who claim they are centrist voted out the most centrist party I've ever seen outside of maybe Chretien/Martin's Liberals.

I have family that claim to be "centrist" in Calgary, but criticize me for "having a hate-on for the UCP" when I show them statistics and specific instances/multi-sourced articles showing UCP corruption and self-dealing. In the same breadth I also get flamed for not taking a "balanced" view on Trump and not acknowledging that even he "can do good".

Some people will never learn. I try to just limit contact with them. Sadly they vote

[puffnstuff]

Dont forget she still has her plan for her private police force going on.

And she hasnt forgotten about ******* with pensions either.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Dont forget she still has her plan for her private police force going on.

And she hasnt forgotten about ******* with pensions either.

Meh, peanuts.

The most important thing to Albertans is crafting legislation around children's preferred pronouns.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Meh, peanuts.

The most important thing to Albertans is crafting legislation around children's preferred pronouns.

Am waiting for them to make it illegal to name your child Naheed, Jagmeet, or Justin.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by fotze2

Also a note for rapey insurance.

I moved to Thepersonal from TD and saved $2,000k per year on my 2016 Tiguan POS. Just never seemed to find the time to shop around. Ridiculous.

The other vehicles and house way lower as well.

Shop around!

I swear there is a business model for a service that takes your info and shops around for better rates for all out subscription crap.

I really missed ICBC after moving here from the Okanagan. No shopping around, no endless amounts of quotes trying to find the one company that won't absolutely bend you over, just a one-stop shop for both your registration and insurance at reasonable rates. But you'll still get the troglodytes saying "BuT tHe FrEe MaRkEt MeAnS lOwEr PrIcEs!" without ever looking at the actual numbers

[Regorium]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

This is misleading at best and was debunked by Blake Schaffer.

https://x.com/bcshaffer/status/1828605200556531754

After all the fixed fees, my 8c/kwh fixed rate easily becomes 23c/kwh. Other provinces have much lower fixed fees. Are we sure that it's referencing the RRO and not just a real calculation of fixed fees?

I don't see any real issue with the numbers being presented in the report based on my personal experience with the all-in cost in AB vs other provinces.