2024/25 Calgary Flames roster discussion

[Enoch Root]

yeah, Ball is on the team 100% - I separated by age, not roster expectations

[Enoch Root]

and yes, Bahl turned 24 last week - my bad

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Five-hole

For the people hand-wringing about being unexpectedly good next year -- good enough to finish outside of the bottom 10 and lose our pick -- compare this year's roster to last year. We finished in the bottom 10 last year, despite getting most of a season out of:

- Hanifin
- Lindholm
- Markstrom
- Zadorov
- Mangiapane

We have replaced those guys with ... Mantha and Bean.

This is a bottom 7- or 8- team, and very likely bottom 4. They'll try hard and be entertaining but you cannot be in the top 2/3rds of the NHL with this D and goaltending.

We also had career years for Coleman, Sharangovich, Hanifin was on pace to tie his career best, Weegar had a career year.

I can't see Weegar and Coleman combing for 50 goals next season. The drop off may be covered by Kuzmenko, but we will see.

[PepsiFree]

Forgot Hanley and Aspirot

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

We also had career years for Coleman, Sharangovich, Hanifin was on pace to tie his career best, Weegar had a career year.

I can't see Weegar and Coleman combing for 50 goals next season. The drop off may be covered by Kuzmenko, but we will see.

Agree on the bold. Also, the D combined for 52 goals in total - they won't be doing that this year.

Some of those goals should be made up by Kuzmenko. And Mantha likely exceeds Mangiapane's 14 from last year.

Overall though, I would think they will score fewer goals than last year (when they were 18th). And to a greater extent, I think their goals against will be a fair margin worse than the 23rd they were last year

[SuperMatt18]

I still think Kylington will circle back once he realizes nobody else is offering a 2+ year deal.

Weegar - Miromanov
Kylington - Andersson
Bahl - Pachal
Bean - Solovoyov

Hanley waived before the start of the season

Huberdeau - Sharangovich - Mantha
Zary - Kadri - Kuzmenko
Coleman - Backlund - Coronato
Pelletier - Pospisil - Lomberg
Rooney

Duehr / Hunt waived

I do think we potentially see a trade for a center still...but feels like one of the forwards would be going the other way if that happens. And I'll be honest I don't think that lineup is anywhere close to as bad as what Chicago and San Jose ran out last year...I'll be surprised if it's a bottom 3 finish for the Flames...likely more in that 5-9 range again.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Agree on the bold. Also, the D combined for 52 goals in total - they won't be doing that this year.

Some of those goals should be made up by Kuzmenko. And Mantha likely exceeds Mangiapane's 14 from last year.

Overall though, I would think they will score fewer goals than last year (when they were 18th). And to a greater extent, I think their goals against will be a fair margin worse than the 23rd they were last year

Zary also had 14 as a rookie, lets see what his sophomore season looks like sometimes players slump.

[boogerz]

Assuming that Kylington is gone for good, I'd roll with this:

Weegar-Andersson
Bahl-Miromanov
Bean-Pachal
Solovyov


Trot out Weegar-Andersson for 23-24 minutes per game and have the other two pairs split the remaining 37-38 minutes.

Or maybe Huska takes a page of the Tourigny and Euro playbook by rolling seven defensemen a game to limit the minutes for all defensemen not named Weegar/Andersson, as well as prevent certain players from being over-exposed.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I look forward to a couple of prospects forcing the Flames' hand in camp.

Coronato, and Klapka are my picks to become potential difference makers at forward.

Brzustewicz, and Solovyov on D.

Fun fact - two of these guys had 1:1 time with Danielle Fujita today

When group 1 was on, Coronato was on the other rink working 1:1 with her for the full hour . When group 2 was on, Solovyov was working with her

[Phaneuf_Phan]

Glad we finally found an effective use for Huberdeau - to help us get above the cap floor - with the Flames now having the most cap space in the entire NHL. Connie has a solution for every problem on this team!

[Jason14h]

Mvp mvp

[Maraqopa]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

yeah, Ball is on the team 100% - I separated by age, not roster expectations

Balls gone to Chicago 😂

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Phaneuf_Phan

Glad we finally found an effective use for Huberdeau - to help us get above the cap floor - with the Flames now having the most cap space in the entire NHL. Connie has a solution for every problem on this team!

True, but Trev signed Huberdeau, so that is his win.

[stemit14]

Was thinking about the roster for the season and realized how few spots are available for young players at this point - at least at forward positions. I know it’s a long season and there will be injuries but it felt like there has been so much roster turnover over the last 2 years that there would be tons of spots available for young guys. When I look at the lineup below, I don’t see a top 9 forward position available and I see two 4th line forward positions available (where I have Klapka and Stromgren). Not a criticism, just an observation that the starting lineup will have more veterans than you would think in a rebuild year.

Kuzmenko-Kadri-Posposil
Huberdeau-Zary-Sharangovich
Mantha-Backlund-Coleman
Lomberg-Rooney-Klapka/Stromgren

Bean-Weegar
Bahl-Anderson
Soloviov-Miromanov/Pachal

Vladar
Wolf

The only way I see this shuffling around to make more room for another top 9 spot for a young player like Coronato or Pelletier is if Posposil is shifted to centre on the fourth line. If that happens, there will be one less position available for a fourth line player and one more position available for a top nine player. I just think the coach likes having Posposil with Kadri as he brings a great element to the top nine.

I’m certain injuries will happen even as early as pre-season. But, if not, I don’t see a spot for Pelletier or Coronato on the opening lineup.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Was thinking about the roster for the season and realized how few spots are available for young players at this point - at least at forward positions. I know it’s a long season and there will be injuries but it felt like there has been so much roster turnover over the last 2 years that there would be tons of spots available for young guys. When I look at the lineup below, I don’t see a top 9 forward position available and I see two 4th line forward positions available (where I have Klapka and Stromgren). Not a criticism, just an observation that the starting lineup will have more veterans than you would think in a rebuild year.

Kuzmenko-Kadri-Posposil
Huberdeau-Zary-Sharangovich
Mantha-Backlund-Coleman
Lomberg-Rooney-Klapka/Stromgren

Bean-Weegar
Bahl-Anderson
Soloviov-Miromanov/Pachal

Vladar
Wolf

The only way I see this shuffling around to make more room for another top 9 spot for a young player like Coronato or Pelletier is if Posposil is shifted to centre on the fourth line. If that happens, there will be one less position available for a fourth line player and one more position available for a top nine player. I just think the coach likes having Posposil with Kadri as he brings a great element to the top nine.

I’m certain injuries will happen even as early as pre-season. But, if not, I don’t see a spot for Pelletier or Coronato on the opening lineup.

I cannot see a scenario where Pelletier goes down and they lose him for nothing. Pretty sure Stromgrem starts in the minors. The Flames will also have no problem I suspect sending Rooney to the minors.

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I cannot see a scenario where Pelletier goes down and they lose him for nothing. Pretty sure Stromgrem starts in the minors. The Flames will also have no problem I suspect sending Rooney to the minors.

Agreed. I see something along these lines:

Kuzmenko-Kadri-Sharongovich
Huberdeau-Zary-Mantha
Pelletier-Backlund-Coleman
Lomberg-Pospisil-Klapka
Rooney/Hunt

Bean-Weegar
Bahl-Anderson
Soloviov-Miromanov
Pachal

Vladar
Wolf

So a place for Pelletier, Klapka, Solo and Wolf as rookies.
After the trade deadline, or due to injuries I would expect Coronato to be on the team as well, as well as Pospisil moving up the lineup.

[prizefighterinferno]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

Agreed. I see something along these lines:

Kuzmenko-Kadri-Sharongovich
Huberdeau-Zary-Mantha
Pelletier-Backlund-Coleman
Lomberg-Pospisil-Klapka
Rooney/Hunt

Bean-Weegar
Bahl-Anderson
Soloviov-Miromanov
Pachal

Vladar
Wolf

OK this line would be a blast.

[keenan87]

I think if Pelletier doesn't outright make the team, the Flames will trade him for a 3rd in pre-season.

[Toonage]

I could see them exploring a trade, but they'd be awfully lucky to get a 3rd for him at this point.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Yeah I agree. He's an awkward fit in the NHL. Undersized lacking an attribute that he's particularly great at.
On the surface it's not shaking out to be a great pick. But then looking at that draft, there is shockingly few interesting names after him. You've got a lot of really flawed players, some with higher ceilings (Kaliyev, Hoglander), some not-bad depth guys (Beecher), but nothing that stands out as an obvious guy they should have picked instead.
Not a great draft once you get outside the top 15. Pretty cruddy actually.