08-19-2024, 01:54 PM
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Location: CGY
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No idea who the guy the Habs traded but they have done a masterclass in buying low on players with a bit of a checkered past who are still young and have upside while also getting futures.
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08-19-2024, 01:54 PM
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#22
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
Always gross when interesting players go there.
MTL is a vortex of no good and players wind up being forgotten and irrelevant.
Hoped he would go somewhere that would be a great match for his skill set like Dallas.
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Montreal is also great at pumping up the numbers of totally offensive orientated players with major deficiencies in their game, and then sometimes flipping them (or inexplicably holding on to them too long and getting nothing).
If Tomas Tatar can put up career numbers there, Laine can put up some good numbers too.
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08-19-2024, 01:55 PM
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#23
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
So what happened with the Flames working behind the scenes?
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This probably deal kills the rumor from last night
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08-19-2024, 01:56 PM
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#24
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
That seems like a pretty one-sided trade to me. Looks like no retention, but even still... I would have done that trade in a heartbeat, then get him going offensively, then trade him with retention, for a haul.
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This one was probably not that simple.
The team and Laine would have to be comfortable with each other.
Trade looks one sided but it could also be that he only would go to Montreal, and they would take him at full salary.
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08-19-2024, 01:56 PM
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Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
yikes MTL....
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Montreal basically got him for nothing. They traded Harris who is a fine but not high end player, and they got an extra pick to go with it. Can't see how it's bad for the Canadiens
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08-19-2024, 01:58 PM
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#26
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
So what happened with the Flames working behind the scenes?
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It probably didn't work out.
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08-19-2024, 01:58 PM
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#27
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
This one was probably not that simple.
The team and Laine would have to be comfortable with each other.
Trade looks one sided but it could also be that he only would go to Montreal, and they would take him at full salary.
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if you have to leap to that assumption to justify the trade, it's a one-sided trade
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08-19-2024, 01:59 PM
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Hockey-and_stuff
Montreal basically got him for nothing. They traded Harris who is a fine but not high end player, and they got an extra pick to go with it. Can't see how it's bad for the Canadiens
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Only two more years on the Laine contract too. If the Canadiens continue to suck, they could easily pump up Laine's numbers and flip him for something good.
There's a risk here, as Laine could be cooked and end up incapable of returning to form, but Harris is pretty replaceable IMO, and the Canadiens already get a potentially pretty good 2nd here.
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08-19-2024, 02:00 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Harris had crazy fan evaluations. There was a point where Harris was rumored to come to CGY in a deal and the return for him was dumb.
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08-19-2024, 02:01 PM
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the equivalent here would be the Flames giving up Bahl or Pachal for Laine and a 2nd. Who wouldn't do that?
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08-19-2024, 02:04 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Flames were very likely on his NTC list and not an option, but great value from Montreal.
Hopefully they'll use the Flames to shed a contract now.
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08-19-2024, 02:05 PM
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I wonder if the Flames were on Laine's NTC, if not then I think it is a swing and miss.
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08-19-2024, 02:07 PM
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#33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
if you have to leap to that assumption to justify the trade, it's a one-sided trade
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It is a one sided trade if Laine bounces back. If he doesn't then Columbus got out of his contract on the cheap.
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08-19-2024, 02:08 PM
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Super buy low. Holy ####. Laine gets a lot of crap but he is a really good player at the end of the day. And now he has two years to figure things out starting with a clean sheet. Zero risk for Montreal and I think they'll come out of this on top big time.
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08-19-2024, 02:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
It is a one sided trade if Laine bounces back. If he doesn't then Columbus got out of his contract on the cheap.
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its actually not a terrible trade for either side. Columbus needed to to move him (if you believe all the reports) and they were able to get rid of him and all of his 9M hit for a second. Plus they got a defenseman.
Montreal is taking some risk here since they need him to bounce back somewhat to make it work. but they got an extra second as insurance.
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08-19-2024, 02:10 PM
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Not much downside for Montreal. They have a surplus of young d-men.
But I like the deal for Columbus too. They move out a headache player on a bad contract and get a young 4-6 dman with leadership qualities. They’re trying to turn the culture of the team around, so bringing in a guy like Harris makes sense.
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08-19-2024, 02:11 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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This has to be Columbus assuming there's a likely chance Laine doesn't even return, nevermind bounce back to pre-draft potential.
I like the trade for them more than the Habs in that sense, and they should know best closest to the player.
Montreal will only add stress to Laine, but we'll see I guess.
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08-19-2024, 02:12 PM
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#38
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It's not the cost MTL gave up, its the fact its a full cap hit for 2 years on a guy who very likely could be done with hockey, let alone get back to his first few seasons and goal scoring potential.
(Icon beat me to it!)
As for the Flames perspective, Flames were never interested in Laine they were simply looking to broker salary retention. MTL however took the full cap hit, so no need for us to get involved.
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08-19-2024, 02:13 PM
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#39
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Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saqe
Super buy low. Holy ####. Laine gets a lot of crap but he is a really good player at the end of the day. And now he has two years to figure things out starting with a clean sheet. Zero risk for Montreal and I think they'll come out of this on top big time.
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I was about to say that’s a low return for Laine and a pick….
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08-19-2024, 02:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by All In Good Time
its actually not a terrible trade for either side. Columbus needed to to move him (if you believe all the reports) and they were able to get rid of him and all of his 9M hit for a second. Plus they got a defenseman.
Montreal is taking some risk here since they need him to bounce back somewhat to make it work. but they got an extra second as insurance.
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Yeah, I think it is a pretty even trade that could work out really well for Montreal. I would have liked if the Flames did it but not a crazy steal at the moment.
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