Came across this page. Pretty insane how much $$$ is involved.
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Doesn't seem that crazy. That figure is spread out over several years, so it's only a fraction of the $4.5B in a given year. For context, just to get our military spending to 2% of GDP would require about $15-20B a year in additional spending.
And it's not like it's just pure cash. Often it's equipment due to be replaced or training from existing Canadian forces members who'd be paid a salary anyway. There's a reason why Canada's total military spending relative to GDP (which the Ukraine stuff falls under for NATO calculations) hasn't really budged.
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Some interesting although rather bleak analysis/prediction from APN;
- Putin has a tendency to try and escalate his way out of problems, so there's a good chance he'll do it here
- That would likely mean using Russian conscripts in more active roles in this war, plus possibly increasing the size of the conscript force by lengthening the service.
- This is likely something the Ukrainians have prepared for, and might in fact have been pushing towards it, because they see it as an inevitability anyway. The logic for wanting this to happen is also why Putin has so far mostly kept conscripts out of Ukraine: conscripts dying in large numbers would be massively unpopular.
(It is sometimes said that losing conscripts was how the Soviet Union lost their will to fight in Afghanistan, and that war is the main reason why there's a law in Russia banning the use of conscripts outside Russia.)
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The Russian Foreign Ministry stated that Russia will "take measures" if Poland attempts to shoot down missiles over Ukraine. Which specific measures are unclear.
Ukrainian objectives for the #Kursk operation have gained some recent clarity with statements by the Ukrainian President, as well as other Ukrainian officials. What are these objectives, and what are the Russian options to respond
Another video of Russians crying, saying that Russian TV lies, the authorities have run away without warning anyone, everyone has abandoned them, and nobody is helping. https://twitter.com/user/status/1825480764575875461
Thank you Vladimir, we were all holding our breath here, eager to hear the latest edition of "What the West must do for Russia!". But no Vladimir, there won't be a clean slate, there won't be a start anew this time, not with us, not again.
This is tragic. There is a spectrum of good and bad in every individual captured by that number, but certainly a massive amount of people that didn't need to and didn't deserve to die. Now there are empty chairs at dinner tables because of some psycho path authoritarian's dreams of grandeur.
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but certainly a massive amount of people that didn't need to and didn't deserve to die.
This is an interesting comment. Not sure if I agree or disagree. Easy to armchair what Russian men should or shouldn’t do, I’m sure, but if there’s a widespread mutiny, does Russia just kill all their own soldiers?
They can stop anytime at their own risk, but what’s riskier?
This is an interesting comment. Not sure if I agree or disagree. Easy to armchair what Russian men should or shouldn’t do, I’m sure, but if there’s a widespread mutiny, does Russia just kill all their own soldiers?
They can stop anytime at their own risk, but what’s riskier?
Lots of them are conscripted from remote areas that don't even have ethnic ties to western Russia and/or from very poor areas and backgrounds.
Lots are ignorant Ivan's too though.
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Russian infantry about to overrun a Ukrainian position. They call in cluster munitions on their own position to drive the orcs back, then a Bradley comes screaming in guns blazing and successfully extracts all 4. The video quality we get from modern warfare now is nuts
Relative to population, that would be like Canada losing more than 170,000.
I don't know why Russians aren't more angry about this. If Canada got into a war and lost 170,000 soldiers, people would be freaking out big time.
A point of context everyone is missing: these are casualties that include any injury that removes a soldier from the battlefield permanently. Deaths are only estimated at around 50-150k I believe, watch is still a crazy high number. The reason there isn't more anger is because most of the soldiers in the front lines are from the eastern non Slavic areas that moscovites don't give two craps about
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Relative to population, that would be like Canada losing more than 170,000.
I don't know why Russians aren't more angry about this. If Canada got into a war and lost 170,000 soldiers, people would be freaking out big time.
They literally don't know what's going on. They're being fed news that suggests Ukraine is losing everything and they are close to victory. Not a chance the average Russian citizen is understanding of the casualties on their side. Just look at pointmans posts before he left Russia.
A point of context everyone is missing: these are casualties that include any injury that removes a soldier from the battlefield permanently. Deaths are only estimated at around 50-150k I believe, watch is still a crazy high number. The reason there isn't more anger is because most of the soldiers in the front lines are from the eastern non Slavic areas that moscovites don't give two craps about
Yup.
It makes more sense when you remember that most of Russia on the map is essentially colonies that happen to by connected by land instead of sea. They get stripped of resources and manpower for very little in return, and that's how it's always been.
When you see pictures of "Russia doing well economically", it's always Moscow or St. Petersburg. They are "the Russian economy".
A point of context everyone is missing: these are casualties that include any injury that removes a soldier from the battlefield permanently. Deaths are only estimated at around 50-150k I believe, watch is still a crazy high number. The reason there isn't more anger is because most of the soldiers in the front lines are from the eastern non Slavic areas that moscovites don't give two craps about
As of August 1, 2024, Russian combat losses amount to 579 490 troops, according to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
During the press conference on February 25, 2024, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy also specified that a total of 180,000 Russians have been killed in Russia’s full-scale war against Ukraine. With people injured or missing, it is up to 500,000 troops.
Imagine the poor folk that have to breathe that in every day! I think that the average person is likely starting to understand what is going on with these facilities getting bombed and the goings on in Kursk
Russia: The Kavkaz oil depot in Rostov has now been burning for around 54 hours. Hundreds of millions of dollars worth of Russian fuel destined for military use destroyed by a couple of cheap Ukrainian drones https://twitter.com/user/status/1825801286429884826
Ukrainian amphibious assault troops destroy the positions of the Russians, using their rapid-fire cannon, during the assault on the settlement of Mala Loknya, Kursk Oblast, Russia. https://twitter.com/user/status/1825799330533404955
Vladimir Putin is unlikely to announce mobilization, but will continue to use conscripts to replenish the army. A survey in Russia showed that the level of public anxiety after Ukraine's entry into Kursk increased less than it was when mobilization was announced. https://twitter.com/user/status/1825616493268316467
Hundreds of Russian conscripts are reportedly being sent to the front in the Kursk region, with some being forced to sign contracts to join the army as professional soldiers
Russian channels erupting with an internal Russian military scandal over a secret prison in Nizhny Novgorod in which wounded Russian soldiers refusing to return to the front are confined and tortured. https://twitter.com/user/status/1825756545977618900
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What's great about going into Kursk is that Russia will need to counter attack while knowing it's their own towns and buildings they are seiging. Makes it a lot harder to just flatten towns with artillery the way they have done it in the Donbas region. It sounds like their groups are very disorganized as well.
They can stop anytime at their own risk, but what’s riskier?
I take it you've never been poor. Most of these guys are making the choice between feeding their families, or not. People make all sorts of morally compromised decisions when their basic needs are threatened.
