[Trade] Oilers trade Ceci, 3rd to Sharks for Ty Emberson

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Grier might be the worst GM in hockey

He may be...but that club has almost as much cap room as the team here does (not exactly but lots all the same)....and he just turned a waiver wire pickup into a 3rd rd draft pick.

Nothing wrong with that IMO....just sucks because it helps the grease.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Bonded

San Jose must think they can flip him

I doubt that. They are already retaining salary on Burns, Hertl, and Karlsson, and can't do any more this season.

[Groot]

Broberg trying to leave the Oilers organization...

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Top Shelf Hockey guy mentioned that apparently there was chatter that Ceci and Draisaitl are really tight and Draisaitl has gone to bat for him in the past. That was uploaded before the Ceci trade, so it's not like it was something said after the trade.

It would be hilarious if Pissy becomes even more pissy because his buddy got traded.

It also makes me wonder if Ceci is a popular guy on the team, how the locker room relationships will be with Broberg and Holloway if either are matched.

I wish San Jose didn't let the Oilers off the hook so easily, but this trade is still a downgrade on their blueline.

Everything I had ever heard was that Ceci was well liked in that locker room. Apparently a lot of the players didn't want him sent out as a means of upgrading the D last year. Sometimes these guys who know where they fall in the pecking order get viewed as being important by their team mates.

So you take out a lesser guy who wanted to be with the team to keep another who does look like he was happy to go and put him on the wrong side. Might be the right analytical choice, but there's always moves that don't work out the way they were intended.

It's not a stretch to think Lowe will be on the airwaves in Edmonton two years from now crowing about how Broberg should pay the team back for not earning his money. If he is only average the state might let the media after him in year two.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Terrible, Sharks. Let the Oilers off way way too easy. Brutal.

[GhostCookie]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Everything I had ever heard was that Ceci was well liked in that locker room. Apparently a lot of the players didn't want him sent out as a means of upgrading the D last year. Sometimes these guys who know where they fall in the pecking order get viewed as being important by their team mates.

So you take out a lesser guy who wanted to be with the team to keep another who does look like he was happy to go and put him on the wrong side. Might be the right analytical choice, but there's always moves that don't work out the way they were intended.

It's not a stretch to think Lowe will be on the airwaves in Edmonton two years from now crowing about how Broberg should pay the team back for not earning his money. If he is only average the state might let the media after him in year two.

And generally speaking, he was one of their supporting cast that played nearer to his cap hit than the rest of them. So there is really no win here for them. They are losing one of their RFA’s as this move doesn’t give them room to match both (looks like they are keeping broberg based on them trading for a filler forward earlier), so they are only gaining a third which they had to trade along with a well liked contributor. It ties up more cap for the Leon year, and makes for a nasty QO for the mcdavid year, so no contract relief. And LTIR Kane means he can’t come back without moves, but it doesn’t give them kucherov money for the LTIR shenanigans they were bragging about doing. Plus no cap accrual meaning no easy upgrade at the deadline.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Terrible, Sharks. Let the Oilers off way way too easy. Brutal.

Some are speculating the Oilers will match both players and then waive Holloway allowing Sharks to claim him so it will leave the Blues with nothing.

Guess we will find out shortly.

[Dion]

I can't believe the Sharks would play nice with the Oilers. Play hardball and put the screws to Oil and make them pay dearly!

[lazypucker]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Some are speculating the Oilers will match both players and then waive Holloway allowing Sharks to claim him so it will leave the Blues with nothing.

Guess we will find out shortly.

In this case, the Blues won't lose anything, but the Oilers will lose Holloway for nothing and have Broberg with an exaggerated salary.

So the Oilers loses anyways...Ok, I guess they get rid of Ceci, that's a plus.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by lazypucker

In this case, the Blues won't lose anything, but the Oilers will lose Holloway for nothing and have Broberg with an exaggerated salary.

So the Oilers loses anyways...Ok, I guess they get rid of Ceci, that's a plus.

Yep
They end up paying 4.5 M for a 2.5 M player that doesn’t want to be there

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I would be super pissed if they got Bouchard for 4.5 million next year.

I am fine with Broberg getting that. There is always an Oiler who gets paid after losing in Game 7. First it was Pisani and now it is Broberg.

My Mistake...Top5 default like for correcting me though!

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Some are speculating the Oilers will match both players and then waive Holloway allowing Sharks to claim him so it will leave the Blues with nothing.

Guess we will find out shortly.

They will have made a rival pay more and lost nothing in the process

[Locke]

Originally Posted by CedarMeter

Wonder if Broberg demands a trade.

Edit. Oh I guess he can’t for a year.

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

He'll be SOL. Can't be traded for a year if the Oilers match.

I chuckle at his misfortune.

He's been trying to bail on that craphole for years and now they're about to shackle him to it.

It reminds me of the old stories about inmates at Alcatraz, so close to the freedom of San Francisco, they can see it, hear it and smell it...through the bars of their cells.

Just right there...but still out of reach.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Are we really upset about the Oilers having to give 4.5 to BROBERG and being forced to trade a player they had starting above him last season and a pick to do it? While likely losing Holloway?

I don't get it

This is a PR move for the Oilers not a good hockey move

Yeah I feel them keeping Broberg is awesome from a Flames fan perspective. He's not yet proved he's a regular NHL defenseman and the Oilers are going to be stuck with a contract negotiated by the Blues which is paying him double what he's worth.

[metroneck]

Sorry nephew, Sharks are no longer my second favourite.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yeah I feel them keeping Broberg is awesome from a Flames fan perspective. He's not yet proved he's a regular NHL defenseman and the Oilers are going to be stuck with a contract negotiated by the Blues which is paying him double what he's worth.

And....I think everyone is pretty clear that Broberg is going to bolt the moment he is contractually able.

He does not want to be there and he's been pretty up-front about it.

So they're going to:

- Lose Holloway
- Lose Ceci (no biggie really)
- Lose the Picks for Broberg
- Probably lose the Holloway picks anyways because they're morons
- Pay Broberg twice as much as they wanted to
- Eventually lose Broberg anyways

This sounds like a great plan!

Well...not 'great' but an Edmonton plan.

[Jason14h]

If the Oilers waived Holloway for the Sharks to claim it’s effectively a 2nd and a 3rd to dump Ceci

Would be a very smart maneuver and very interesting to see how the NHL reacts as it is not in the spirit of the rules (I imagine they change the rules to no waiving and no trading the player for a year )

Or SJ just felt getting a guaranteed third was more important then risking another team blinking first because they are trying to rebuild their team and don’t give 2 Fs about the Oilers being in cap hell and screwing them and only about the success of their team

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yeah I feel them keeping Broberg is awesome from a Flames fan perspective. He's not yet proved he's a regular NHL defenseman and the Oilers are going to be stuck with a contract negotiated by the Blues which is paying him double what he's worth.

Ceci is their 4th regular pk player they've lost. As bad as the perception of his play was, he makes a good bottom pair guy. He was better when they got him away from Nurse. Broberg is likely not ready for the role they will put him in. Bouchard is not going to be an easy sign after this. My guess is this pisses him off the most.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by Major Major

Ceci is their 4th regular pk player they've lost. As bad as the perception of his play was, he makes a good bottom pair guy. He was better when they got him away from Nurse. Broberg is likely not ready for the role they will put him in. Bouchard is not going to be an easy sign after this. My guess is this pisses him off the most.

IIRC Ceci with with Nurse was a total disastre because Nurse sucks but without him, like you said Ceci was and is a totally serviceable nhl D man. I don' t know why people thought Edmonton would have to pay a ton to move him, one more year making 3M and is also a RD.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Major Major

Ceci is their 4th regular pk player they've lost. As bad as the perception of his play was, he makes a good bottom pair guy. He was better when they got him away from Nurse. Broberg is likely not ready for the role they will put him in. Bouchard is not going to be an easy sign after this. My guess is this pisses him off the most.

Paying Broberg $4.5 million probably makes the Bouchard camp pretty happy about what they should be demanding.