American Politics 3.0 - Back to Brunch

[SutterBrother]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

I want his opinion on Trumps usage of Jeffrey Epstein's plane.

I hate Donald Trump, but it feels like that one is a non-issue. They didn't intentionally go out and rent a pedophile's plane.

There's enough genuine content to pursue. Like he was friends with aforementioned pedophile, and was clearly aware that his friend liked underage girls.

"I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy," Trump told the magazine.

"He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it—Jeffrey enjoys his social life."

Such a Terrific guy!

Or, furthering the pedo-friend stuff you could look into how Trump liked to walk in unannounced during the Miss Teen pageants.

Four women who competed in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant said Donald Trump walked into the dressing room while contestants — some as young as 15 — were changing.

“I remember putting on my dress really quick because I was like, ‘Oh my god, there’s a man in here,’” said Mariah Billado, the former Miss Vermont Teen USA.

Trump, she recalled, said something like, “Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before.”

Three other women, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of getting engulfed in a media firestorm, also remembered Trump entering the dressing room while girls were changing. Two of them said the girls rushed to cover their bodies, with one calling it “shocking” and “creepy.”

Not creepy or weird in the slightest!

So plenty of legit targets beyond a plane rental.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

I hate Donald Trump, but it feels like that one is a non-issue. They didn't intentionally go out and rent a pedophile's plane.

I think this isn't about the rental of his plane recently, moreso that is was discovered that Trump was named in Epstein's flight logs several times a long time ago, to and from his island.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by Muta

Bill - FIU will likely take a while to respond here, he's likely going to furiously try and find ways to somehow call all of that fake news. He's adamant Trump isn't racist, so this can't possibly be true.

Unfortunately for The Deplorables, Trump’s racism has been documented for 50+ years. As a landlord, as a business man, and now as a politician. He may not be a white pointy hat and pajama racist, but he does lean into the negative stereotypes.

Dating a mixed race woman doesn’t absolve him of his actions and words towards the larger group for the past 50 years. That’s what they don’t get. Especially when that same girlfriend tells a story of him meeting her parents for the first time and he was quick to point out she got her intelligence from her “white side”.


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[Ozy_Flame]

Oh I'm aware of the nuance, I just want to see FIU explain away

[SutterBrother]

Originally Posted by Muta

I think this isn't about the rental of his plane recently, moreso that is was discovered that Trump was named in Epstein's flight logs several times a long time ago, to and from his island.

Ah, yeah, ok, that makes more sense. I knew Trump denied going to Pedo-Island. I guess there have been more records released since.

"I was never on Epstein’s Plane, or at his ‘stupid’ Island,” Trump said in a social media post in January.

Flight logs released in 2021 as part of Maxwell’s trial, however, indicated Trump flew on the plane seven times. The logs don't include the ages of the passengers, despite Lieu's assertion there were "young girls aboard." The logs indicate that on one of the trips between New York and Florida he was accompanied by his then-wife Marla Maples and their daughter, Tiffany, and another listed his son Eric as a passenger.

Nothing to see here!

Trump was asked in an interview on "Fox & Friends Weekend" last month whether he'd "declassify the Epstein files" if he was re-elected, and indicated he had concerns about doing so.

He initially said, "Yeah, I would," before hedging. "I guess I would. I think that less so because you don’t want to affect people’s lives if it’s phony stuff in there, because it’s a lot of phony stuff with that whole world. But I think I would," Trump said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...hip-rcna161354

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by Muta

I think this isn't about the rental of his plane recently, moreso that is was discovered that Trump was named in Epstein's flight logs several times a long time ago, to and from his island.

That was just for a couple Tupperware parties.


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[Dion]

As always, when confronted with his own lies, Trump avoids the question, babbles about nothingness, and tells more lies.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1823766546621325338

[puffnstuff]

Another funny part of that video is that he is there voting early... which he rails against because 'its cheating, its fraud'
There is absolutely nothing genuine about that clown.

[direwolf]

He’s such a pathetic f’n loser. Watching his campaign spiral into a complete train wreck has brought me great joy. Dude is totally unraveling and I’m here for it. Of course we still have a long way to go before the election and anything can happen, but the GOP deserves everything that’s happening to them right now. Bunch o’ reprehensible scumbags.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Here's some stats for those fluffing Trump and trying to dream up narratives that Democratic run states do things worse than Republican run states. The best number to look at is who turns over the most money to the feds to support the budget versus who gets the most. This is determined in the net difference between tax revenues collected by states versus money the states received from the feds.

Top contributing states (those who gave more money, collected for the feds for every dollar received from the feds)

1. Minnesota - $6.88 (Blue) - This would be Gov. Tim Walz's state if any Trumpty Dumptys are reading
2. New Jersey - $6.28 (Blue)
3. Delaware - $6.09 (Blue)
4. Illinois - $5.88 (Blue)
5. Florida - $5.78 (Purple)
6. Washington - $5.68 (Blue)
7. South Dakota - $5.66 (Red)
8. Massachusetts - $5.23 (Blue)
9. Nebraska - $5.16 (Red)
10. California - $5.03 (Blue)
11. Missouri - $4.84 (Red)
12. Colorado - $4.76 (Blue)
13. Tennessee - $4.75 (Red)
14. Connecticut - $4.72 (Blue)
15. Maryland - $4.59 (Blue)

For those keeping score, that's 10 Blue, 4 Red, 1 Purple

ON the other end of the spectrum here are the states that collect less revenue and get more from the feds.

1. New Mexico - $.85 (Blue)
2. West Virginia - $1.04 (Red)
3. Alaska - $1.09 (Red)
4. Mississippi - $1.19 (Red)
5. Montana - $1.19 (Red)
6. Hawaii - $1.53 (Blue)
7. Vermont - $1.86 (Blue)
8. Louisiana - $1.88 (Red)
9. Alabama - $1.92 (Red)
10. Wyoming - $1.96 (Red)
11. Maine - $2.00 (Blue)
12. North Dakota - $2.02 (Red)
13. Kentucky - $2.03 (Red)
14. Arizona - $2.26 (Purple)
15. South Carolina - $2.39 (Red)

For those keeping score, that's 10 Red, 4 Blue, 1 Purple

That's just the inverse. The blue states contribute most to the good of the nation and the red states take the most. Yeah, those pesky Republicans sure know how to run gub'mint and economies! Tough numbers to swallow, I know.

[T-Dog]

It would be amazing to see fully half of America come out of its trance and finally see Trump for the conman and narcissist that he is.

[Muta]

Agreed - although it's not likely, at least not anytime soon. Education and critical thinking are tenets of a well-served and highly functioning society, so those need to be accepted as desirable and necessary by the American majority before any movement on that front.

[Paulie Walnuts]

It may not matter much but apparently Tim Walz has a net worth of 250k. They are saying he has no money or investments. He’s relying on his pension.

[BigThief]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1823761218731135170

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by BigThief

https://twitter.com/user/status/1823761218731135170

Was that supposed to be a Four Seasons?

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by BigThief

https://twitter.com/user/status/1823761218731135170

He's not even on the stage, dude. I doubt this is what it's being presented as.

[Paulie Walnuts]

That’s because he’s finishing up with his couch.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Sliver

He's not even on the stage, dude. I doubt this is what it's being presented as.

Yeah, I love a good dunk on Trump and JD as much as anyone, but this just appears to be a few early birds who arrived before the event started. Are there any pictures of the crowd size when JD is actually on the stage speaking?

[jayswin]

Yeah, I wish those gotchas were more genuine. It's easy to make any rally look bad if you accept photos from gate opening to finish, but it just does a disservice. If that was during the rally then it's hilarious, but it doesn't look like it.

[PepsiFree]

Guys this is like an Oilers thread. None of this matters.

Let’s have our little laughs and move along.