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Old 08-13-2024, 04:43 PM   #19021
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For most of us, banning or sinbinning this troll is not within our control.

What is within our control is ignoring him/her/it.

But if that is beyond you, please for the love of god, stop quoting him.
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Old 08-13-2024, 04:45 PM   #19022
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For most of us, banning or sinbinning this troll is not within our control.

What is within our control is ignoring him/her/it.

But if that is beyond you, please for the love of god, stop quoting him.
You're about to get their wrath now.
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Old 08-13-2024, 04:47 PM   #19023
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I think it’s great posters combat the outright lies from the Trump campaign and his supporters. You may never change the mind of the person you’re replying to, but you may get to someone else lurking. It just may be not be worth addressing the poster, but instead the points they shared.

What I’ve come to realize about Trump supporters over the past 10 or so years is that they fit into three boxes:

1. The Elites - They want what is best for them and the conservative policies always transfer wealth from the poor to the rich. Most of them won’t speak about Trump and definitely won’t tell you they will vote for him. The only ones in this category willing to openly support him do so under the assumption they will get an appointment or another promise from Trump. Most just want to silently support him due to the economics of it. They couldn’t care at all about women’s rights, public education, etc.

2. The Bible Thumpers - They do not care about any policies outside of how religion can be more ingrained into the political and public sector of our lives. Praying in school is more important than controlling the deficit. Banning abortions is more important than their own child’s education. They can easily support Trump because of the way they look at their own religion. They are the same people that use the Bible as proof the Bible is true. So of course it is easy for them to say “Trump actually meant…” when he breaks every commandment and brags about sexually assaulting women, dating porn actresses, cheating on wives, and so on.

3. The Deplorables - They actually don’t know what a policy really is and only like Trump because they feel this gives them the right to be openly racist, sexists, and overall hateful towards others living in America. These are some of the most uneducated people in America. They will never debate any quality points and instead go to the usual Truth Social bulletin points. If you bring up a real subject to discuss they will either ignore you (see FireItUp) or change the subject and deflect (also see FireItUp). These people love the drama of being his supporter more than they actually love Trump. Because they have nothing else to look forward to in their lives they get their joys from seeing how people react to their red hats and black & blue flags. Most couldn’t balance their home budget so they don’t see a problem with a President who added as much to the deficit as Obama did over double the years. They want one thing, freedom of speech without the consequences.

The truth is, Trump appeals to the lowest common denominators in American society. I don’t believe this was the case eight years ago and somewhat understand the reasoning for voting for him in 2016 (Dems fault for Hillary). However, anyone who voted for him a second time, let alone a third soon, is only doing so for their own self interest and nothing to do with making America great. It’s hard to watch family and friends here continue to parrot his talking points but can’t back anything up when I ask them simple questions. It’s been amazing to watch some of them see the light, but the ones that continue their support do so for very shallow reasons. But that’s all Trump supporters. They are not patriots. They are embarrassing.


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Old 08-13-2024, 04:55 PM   #19024
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Let's get some facts out about racism & slavery before we move forward.
First, no one is born racist. They become racist through racist parents, family, society, and so on.
Secondly, not every member of a family who owned slaves shared the same views as the owner.
Thirdly, contrary to popular belief, like whites, many blacks owned slaves themselves. Our history has had many dark periods but it's clearly gotten better overtime, and I believe it'll get even better in years to come.
https://scholarworks.umb.edu/masters_theses/661/


Now, your question is "Were the slave owners who fell in love with their slaves racist?"
I think the right answer is, both. It's very possible that some were absolutely racist, and others weren't. It's no different than humans throughout history, some are hate-filled and other are loving and compassionate.
No, no it isn't.
These weren't people that thought owning ANY slaves was fine.
They were people that thought owning slaves was okay BECUASE THEY WERE BLACK.
Unless those guys were advocating for being able to enslave white folks too, then yeah, they were 100% racist regardless of how they treated their slaves.

So you're rebuttal is going to be "well it's entirely possible some of them did think they should be able to own white slaves".
Sure, I'll grant that, but let's be honest here, that number that would be pro-black, anti-white slavery, rounds to about 100%.
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Old 08-13-2024, 05:16 PM   #19025
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I am all up for banning people who keep quoting those posts.

I don't even have FIU on ignore and the amount of people who are needlessly replying with the same response of "No YOU!" is just as annoying.
Guy literally says he’s here to troll libs and people are still like “Yeah? Troll THIS buddy.”

I love trolling trolls but the only way to do it is to make them feel like they aren’t getting anything out of the exchange. People are giving this guy everything lol.
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Pretty sure FireItUp is just a troll account set up by Bingo to keep site traffic up during the off season
Brilliant, if true.
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Old 08-13-2024, 05:47 PM   #19028
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In a way, we are all Bingo.
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Old 08-13-2024, 06:34 PM   #19031
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I'm not sure where you people are getting this 'Trump is racist' stuff from. I mean, this account is just full of anti-immigrant stuff that just happens to all be dark skinned people, but that doesn't mean anything. Neither does this tweet from just earlier today:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1823379465914741234
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Old 08-13-2024, 06:48 PM   #19032
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I agree. I'm not on board with his stance on the whole A.I. crowd thing. However, I find it odd that she keeps bringing in performers to her rallies.
Rallies are suppose to be about informing the people about your platform, policies, and why your better than your opponent.
I'm going to quote FIU every time I post even if it has nothing to do with him. That'll teach you ignore nazis.
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Old 08-13-2024, 07:01 PM   #19033
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I found FireItUp being interviewed on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1823523814489358712
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Old 08-13-2024, 07:06 PM   #19034
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Old 08-13-2024, 07:10 PM   #19035
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I found FireItUp being interviewed on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1823523814489358712
People have an opinion I don't like.

That must not be allowed because...

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'Racist' is not a descriptor of a person the way 'tall' or 'black' is a personal descriptor. 'Racist' is a descriptor of an action that a person takes. For example, by advocating for policies that have measurably worse outcomes for people of colour, you are doing racism. Your personal feelings towards people of colour are almost totally irrelevant, other than that they may cause you to perform racist actions more or less frequently.

You are not a racist. You are doing racism. Trump's actions uphold white supremacy and maintain systems of oppression. He does racism.
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Old 08-13-2024, 08:09 PM   #19038
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I found FireItUp being interviewed on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1823523814489358712
Every time I see these idiots I can’t help but this of that line from Jojo Rabbit:
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'Racist' is not a descriptor of a person the way 'tall' or 'black' is a personal descriptor. 'Racist' is a descriptor of an action that a person takes. For example, by advocating for policies that have measurably worse outcomes for people of colour, you are doing racism. Your personal feelings towards people of colour are almost totally irrelevant, other than that they may cause you to perform racist actions more or less frequently.

You are not a racist. You are doing racism. Trump's actions uphold white supremacy and maintain systems of oppression. He does racism.
That doesn't change the FACT that Trump has BLACK friends therefore CANNOT be racist!!1one!
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