08-10-2024, 06:52 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: On the cusp
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
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That store is on pause. $120 for a queen size pillow is worth it?
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08-10-2024, 07:07 PM
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#42
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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It was for me. It's definitely different. You might hate it. Perhaps fly to some home stays in Japan and you might be able to take it for a test run first?
I know, none of that was helpful.
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08-11-2024, 02:38 AM
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#43
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Originally Posted by troutman
Are the people that test for sleep apnea in a conflict of interest? They want so sell machines. Same as radon detectors wanting to sell radon remediation.
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My initial test for Sleep Apnea was done through Lionsgate Hospital, so I am not sure they have a dog in the race, as it were. I did also do a test through a sleep apnea clinic and it had the exact same results.
Since I started this whole thing four years ago, I've convinced more than a few people in my life to get Sleep Apnea testing done and so far I am still the only one who has had it.
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08-11-2024, 08:42 AM
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#44
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Sadly not in the Dome.
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
I went to the specialist and he said the sleep apnea was not risky but my nose is crooked which messes up my breathing.
They gave me all these machines and crap that I can’t even use because I can’t breathe from side of my nose.
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I assume you mean you have a deviated septum? I had one for years and didn't have too many issues with a CPAP machine and I use the nose pillows.
I did have the deviated septum fixed though. Easy enough surgery but not sleeping for a couple of weeks after will drive you baty.
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08-11-2024, 10:12 AM
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#45
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troutman
Are the people that test for sleep apnea in a conflict of interest? They want so sell machines. Same as radon detectors wanting to sell radon remediation.
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I'm curious about this too.
I had a sleep test done earlier this year for my pilot medical, and they called me back to talk about buying a machine even before my doctor had gotten the results
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08-11-2024, 04:27 PM
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was diagnosed in December with obstructive Sleep Apnea in December. My oxygen level would drop as low as 73% at times during the night. Have had a CPAP since January, using the nasal mask, and while it took a bit to get used to, I feel so much better now that I am getting decent sleep. I highly recommend a sleep study if you think you have apnea.
My son and daughter-in-law pushed me to get a sleep study after I went on vacation with them and we shared a hotel room.
Last edited by bigtmac19; 08-11-2024 at 04:29 PM.
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08-12-2024, 09:30 AM
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#47
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by btimbit
I'm curious about this too.
I had a sleep test done earlier this year for my pilot medical, and they called me back to talk about buying a machine even before my doctor had gotten the results
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That's a concern I'd have, and one my doctor shared years ago. He sent me to a clinic in the basement (dungeon lol) of the Foothills, and the doctor there sent me home with a testing unit to record my sleep. I didn't need a CPAP.
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08-12-2024, 09:50 AM
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#48
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Originally Posted by bigtmac19
was diagnosed in December with obstructive Sleep Apnea in December. My oxygen level would drop as low as 73% at times during the night. Have had a CPAP since January, using the nasal mask, and while it took a bit to get used to, I feel so much better now that I am getting decent sleep. I highly recommend a sleep study if you think you have apnea.
My son and daughter-in-law pushed me to get a sleep study after I went on vacation with them and we shared a hotel room.
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It took me about 3 weeks of using the mask to "catch up" as the sleep apnea specialist put it, but once I did holy hell. I am not sure how I functioned before this.
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08-12-2024, 11:28 AM
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#49
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: On the cusp
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
It was for me. It's definitely different. You might hate it. Perhaps fly to some home stays in Japan and you might be able to take it for a test run first?
I know, none of that was helpful.
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The more reasonable response would be to invite me over to your house to have a test nap.
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08-12-2024, 02:17 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Galakanokis
I assume you mean you have a deviated septum? I had one for years and didn't have too many issues with a CPAP machine and I use the nose pillows.
I did have the deviated septum fixed though. Easy enough surgery but not sleeping for a couple of weeks after will drive you baty.
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I did see the specialist for it 2 weeks ago, they got me on sprays and stuff for 3 months to see if it helps the symptoms.
When they gave me the machine, they did give me the full face shield like Silver said. It was not comfortable. So I got the nose pillow, and that is when I could literally feel nothing through my right nostril. So I thought the machine was defective and I went to the Dr and he is sent me to a specialist. Waited a year so he could see me for 1 minute and tell me my nose is crooked, and then referred me to a different person who actually took the time to explain things.
It is the hardest thing to get used to.
I also was sold the machine from the place that did my test. RHS I think it's called. I felt cornered when I went to return it and felt like they forced me to buy it.
They also sold me the one under a recall, and never told me about. I called to buy new hoses and stuff and shes like oh you shouldn't be using the machine its under a recall. Thank!!!!
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08-12-2024, 03:35 PM
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#51
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Sadly not in the Dome.
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
I did see the specialist for it 2 weeks ago, they got me on sprays and stuff for 3 months to see if it helps the symptoms.
When they gave me the machine, they did give me the full face shield like Silver said. It was not comfortable. So I got the nose pillow, and that is when I could literally feel nothing through my right nostril. So I thought the machine was defective and I went to the Dr and he is sent me to a specialist. Waited a year so he could see me for 1 minute and tell me my nose is crooked, and then referred me to a different person who actually took the time to explain things.
It is the hardest thing to get used to.
I also was sold the machine from the place that did my test. RHS I think it's called. I felt cornered when I went to return it and felt like they forced me to buy it.
They also sold me the one under a recall, and never told me about. I called to buy new hoses and stuff and shes like oh you shouldn't be using the machine its under a recall. Thank!!!!
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I had a pretty sever blockage as well. Septum was folded over at nearly 90 degrees. It broke or cracked during surgery and I now have a hole in it. Doesn't seem to be bothering me.
I abused the crap out of nose sprays before that. Opened up the nose enough to get a nights sleep. Surprised the would just send you to a ear, nose, throat doc to get that checked. It did take a good 12-14 months to get in though.
I used the nose pillows the whole time. Never really had an issue with them. I have about 5 different masks and always go back to the nose pillows.
I am in BC but all of my tests were through Burnaby General order by a respiratory specialist looking at something else. I could choose whatever company I wanted to get the actual machine though. I knew going in I had sleep apnea. Probably knew for a year or two prior just a doffus that never dealt with it. It can be life changing, Life saving even.
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08-12-2024, 08:44 PM
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#52
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Originally Posted by Titan2
The more reasonable response would be to invite me over to your house to have a test nap.
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Oh no. I have enough psychopaths in the house already. Don't need one more.
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08-12-2024, 08:54 PM
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#53
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Oh no. I have enough psychopaths in the house already. Don't need one more.
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Hey! You invited me and said it was cool. Now I feel insulted.
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08-12-2024, 08:59 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Originally Posted by Locke
Hey! You invited me and said it was cool. Now I feel insulted. 
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You were confined to the deck.
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08-12-2024, 09:00 PM
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#55
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
You were confined to the deck.
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Oooh...if those burgers you made weren't so good I'd be pretty upset...
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08-12-2024, 09:01 PM
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#56
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Dental Management Of Obstructive Sleep Apnea
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/den...e-sleep-apnea/
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Oral appliances can be used in many cases of mild to moderate OSA, and in severe cases where the patient is intolerant to PAP therapy. There are many makes and models of appliances, but the vast majority of them are variations on a theme in which upper and lower rigid mouthguards are worn which keep the mandible (lower jaw) postured forward in order to open the airway (see diagram below). I will discuss them in more depth later, but the main advantages of oral appliances are that they are more easily tolerated than PAP machines and are more convenient, especially when traveling. The disadvantages include they are not 100% effective, especially in more severe cases, and in some instances they can be uncomfortable to wear.
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08-12-2024, 09:07 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Originally Posted by Locke
Oooh...if those burgers you made weren't so good I'd be pretty upset...
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You are only able to say that because I left the black pepper off yours.
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08-12-2024, 09:09 PM
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#58
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
You are only able to say that because I left the black pepper off yours.
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Yeah and I've slowly been sneaking Gluten into all of your food.
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08-12-2024, 11:46 PM
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#59
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by troutman
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I tried one of these before giving in and going with a cpap. Maybe others have had better experiences but I found the appliance fairly uncomfortable and not nearly as effective. It's like a mouth guard but with rigid plastic, it's a very tight fit on your teeth. It needs to be tight and rigid because it pulls your lower jaw forward. Just like a mask or nasal pillows it takes time to get used to it, I kept waking up and pulling it out for a week or two. It was also pretty expensive, that was a long time ago, maybe they are cheaper now. Because it is a perfect mould of your teeth you might need to get it refit or remade if you have any serious dental work. It was pretty convenient for travelling though.
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08-13-2024, 06:46 PM
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#60
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Much like in the case of the CPAP machine, you shouldn't feel like you need to stick to the first thing you try. I've heard of the dental devices being great for people. Try it, if it doesn't work for you, try a different one or relay your experiences to your doctor and move on to the cpap machine. Just like if the first mask you try doesn't work for you.
I think it's more important to find a solution than to argue about which one is best.
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