American Politics 3.0 - Back to Brunch

[Cali Panthers Fan]

^ @ FireItUp

You cherry pick and selectively post "evidence" that already aligns with your viewpoint, while ignoring every single other piece of evidence that is to the contrary of that point. You are the walking embodiment of confirmation bias. It's not compelling anyone to think otherwise because we all have eyes, ears, and a bit more ability to weigh out the balance of evidence than you do.

You're wasting time and energy. Instead of posting that ####, go read an actual book that might teach you something about politics. I'm sure we can offer some suggestions from a neutral viewpoint if you're worried about bias.


Look at me...wasting my own time and energy responding to you. I'm a fool.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

You cherry pick and selectively post "evidence" that already aligns with your viewpoint, while ignoring every single other piece of evidence that is to the contrary of that point. You are the walking embodiment of confirmation bias. It's not compelling anyone to think otherwise because we all have eyes, ears, and a bit more ability to weigh out the balance of evidence than you do.

You're wasting time and energy. Instead of posting that ####, go read an actual book that might teach you something about politics. I'm sure we can offer some suggestions from a neutral viewpoint if you're worried about bias.


Look at me...wasting my own time and energy responding to you. I'm a fool.

Bold of you to suggest he can read an entire book.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Bold of you to suggest he can read an entire book.

Yes, read my last sentence.

[FireItUp]

Originally Posted by devo22

dude, I don't know what to tell you. It's summer 2024 and you're trying to convince people that Donald Trump is not racist.

You could start back in the 80s and look at the Central Park Five case. You could start with his first campaign when he routinely #### on Mexicans. You could start with the NABJ interview last week and go back in time. The receipts are out there. If you want to convince yourself that Donald Trump isn't racist, maybe it's time to reflect about one's own convictions.

I don't think many of you know what racism means.
Again, can anyone here show me the proof of him being racist? I'll wait.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I'll give credit to FireItUp for this: While he basically is Yoho reincarnate, he at least posts his thoughts and doesn't just post the right wing social media grift posts and bounces like Yoho did. Sure his thoughts aren't his own and just what he's been told to think, but at least he articulates and can be viewed as a human being and not just an aggregator.

[SutterBrother]

Originally Posted by marsplasticeraser

I think the one thing I struggle with is how anybody can think Donald Trump is competent.

I'm not trying to start a fight, but I'm actually genuinely curious.

What do you see in Donald Trump that so many of us are missing?

Most (many?) Republicans don't like Donald Trump. They just don't like what they hear from Fox News about progressive policies more.

Not saying Fox News is telling the truth obviously. Just that the viewers believe what is told to them. They literally believe that California is aborting babies after birth. They actually think that children are being permitted to use litter boxes in bathrooms. They think Democratic cities (which is pretty much all of them) are Purge like hellscapes of crime.

They honestly believe this stuff. They think America has gone insane with leftist policies. Any contrary facts are "mainstream media" and cannot be trusted.

They see and know that Trump is a buffoon. But he's a means to getting the GOP in power, and they want that pushback against the stuff Fox tells them.

They hold their nose and vote for him. Some religious overlap there too. If you think the bible is real, and abortion is honestly infant murder, he's your guy.

This doesn't apply to the ones at the rallies of course - those folks are in a cult. You don't have power in your own life, so you listen to the strongman who played "Boss" on reality TV and feel good about stomping the "other".

[SutterBrother]

Originally Posted by FireItUp

I don't think many of you know what racism means.
Again, can anyone here show me the proof of him being racist? I'll wait.

Birther stuff didn't bother you?

[FireItUp]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Lol, the media doesn't show us he is a racist. His own words, many many times have, you putz.

Still waiting for the proof. You got any?

[SutterBrother]

Originally Posted by FireItUp

Still waiting for the proof. You got any?

Maybe the birther stuff?

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by FireItUp

Still waiting for the proof. You got any?

It's already been posted. Answer my question please.

[marsplasticeraser]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

Most (many?) Republicans don't like Donald Trump. They just don't like what they hear from Fox News about progressive policies more.

Not saying Fox News is telling the truth obviously. Just that the viewers believe what is told to them. They literally believe that California is aborting babies after birth. They actually think that children are being permitted to use litter boxes in bathrooms. They think Democratic cities (which is pretty much all of them) are Purge like hellscapes of crime.

They honestly believe this stuff. They think America has gone insane with leftist policies. Any contrary facts are "mainstream media" and cannot be trusted.

They see and know that Trump is a buffoon. But he's a means to getting the GOP in power, and they want that pushback against the stuff Fox tells them.

They hold their nose and vote for him. Some religious overlap there too. If you think the bible is real, and abortion is honestly infant murder, he's your guy.

This doesn't apply to the ones at the rallies of course - those folks are in a cult. You don't have power in your own life, so you listen to the strongman who played "Boss" on reality TV and feel good about stomping the "other".

I like how you've put this. it's so true...and so sad.

[FireItUp]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

Birther stuff didn't bother you?

Questioning Obama’s birth certificate, isn't about race, it's about citizenship.

[SutterBrother]

Originally Posted by FireItUp

Questioning Obama’s birth certificate, isn't about race, it's about citizenship.

But he's only ever done it with candidates of color? No problem with that?

[FireItUp]

Originally Posted by DownInFlames

It's already been posted. Answer my question please.

Where? repost it.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by FireItUp

Still waiting for the proof. You got any?

Saying there were very fine people on both sides when describing the Charlottesville rally is at least proof that he thinks white supremacists are very fine people.

I believe his talk of tens of millions of rapists, murderers and insane asylum South Americans is rallying racist xenophobes.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by FireItUp

Still waiting for the proof. You got any?

Oh, I'm sure someone could produce a mountain of legal documents, written statements, and video evidence, but it'd be a waste of time.

Here's the thing: When someone, such as yourself, shows such an extreme level of confirmation bias towards a viewpoint, there's this thing that happens when evidence is presented to the contrary of that viewpoint. Cognitive dissonance: the distinct feeling of discomfort over holding two valid yet completely contradictory points of fact in your head at the same time.

Now most people can process cognitive dissonance okay, but usually there's a bit of a mental struggle to square the circle, and often they have to make some compromise on one point or the other...sometimes both.

What people with strong confirmation bias do when experiencing cognitive dissonance is to find some way to disqualify the evidence of the viewpoint they don't wish to believe, or worse, start believing in conspiracy theories that disavow that viewpoint and support their own. This is the "doubling-down" effect that is common, and it's why there's no point in trying to convince you of anything.

Don't feel too bad, you're not alone. Lots of people do this. It's far easier to stay in a place of mental comfort than to re-assess your deepest held beliefs. Stay nestled in your warm bed if you want to, it's fine. But the adults are talking here. Either join in an adult conversation or save your trash for your facebook account.

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by FireItUp

Where? repost it.

No it's only a page back. Use your eyes.

[aaronck]

Originally Posted by FireItUp

Of course you didn't. The media never shows the public the hundreds of times he's condemned white supremacists.
But if the media keeps saying he's racist, the people will believe it. It sounds like you're a prime example of this.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1360336674614566913

And he'll make Mexico pay for it?

[FireItUp]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

But he's only ever done it with candidates of color.

Other than Obama, which other "candidates of color" has he requested citizenship from?

[KelVarnsen]

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